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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 21 2010 03:21 GMT
#1321
So like, no one is talking about the fucking rapefest Charlotte just gave Miami?

Oh and Lamarcus Aldridge - fucking pimp!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
January 21 2010 03:49 GMT
#1322
Turk at 53 mil for 5 years sure is looking like a good signing.
KT_Violet
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
January 21 2010 03:53 GMT
#1323
lol at miami. talk about karma
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 21 2010 04:23 GMT
#1324
Celtics really struggling, lost to the Pistons...

But yeah, Bobcats, Thunder, and the Grizzlies (despite losing to the Hornets) are doing really well this season so far. The East looks interesting!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 21 2010 05:54 GMT
#1325
=D
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
ChezGod
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States590 Posts
January 21 2010 05:56 GMT
#1326
I think I'm ready to hop on the Bobcats bandwagon. They are playing amazingly.
Ducci
Profile Joined April 2009
United States588 Posts
January 21 2010 07:03 GMT
#1327
Monta Ellis should be an all star but I don't think hes gonna make it
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 08:55:37
January 21 2010 08:32 GMT
#1328
Charlotte had the top ranked defense at one point. They just couldn't score. I guess Stephen Jackson is helping. Thunder and Memphis are West.

Ellis is a guard. Nash, Kobe, Chris Paul, Deron Williams are way ahead of him. So is Brandon Roy, and there's probably a whole bunch of others at least as good. Subtract another spot due to McGrady. All-star worthy guard in the west is way above a really good player.

Simmons wrote something on the Kobe-Lebron debate. Perfect for people who want to get Simmon's book signed.
+ Show Spoiler +

Know this: The Kobe-LeBron argument is dead. It's over. LeBron James is the best basketball player alive.

Command of the room. That's what Jordan had. Kobe doesn't have it, and he never had it.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 21 2010 09:20 GMT
#1329
Still won't ever agree with him on that. The major reason Kobe doesn't get "it" is because he didn't start with his own team like Lebron did, and he had a shitty 2004.

Lebron's media status doesn't make him the best baller alive. Championship Rings, which Kobe has 4 of destroy a lot of arguments in Lebron's favor.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13528 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 10:35:40
January 21 2010 10:33 GMT
#1330
Yeah, Kobe's still #1 imo.

Neither come close to MJ though.

I actually hope LeBron goes to the Clippers as it would make games vs the Lakers so epic.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 21 2010 10:36 GMT
#1331
I think the rings argument is normally pretty bad. It takes a team to win championships. No player on earth has been or ever will be talented enough to carry a team. And Kobe didn't carry his team to the finals. They have a lot of talent spread across the board with another superstar in Gasol. Championship rings takes a very well balanced team effort, or at the very least a 2 man superstar show with some decent contributors. The lakers have both + Phil Jackson. (The Lakers lose a lot when Gasol isn't playing). Cleveland will still be Cleveland if Shaq isn't playing. ;p

The real question is: Is Phil Jackson the greatest coach of all time or the luckiest bastard of all time? I think good arguments can be said for both. However it's more a combination of both.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 21 2010 10:50 GMT
#1332
On January 21 2010 19:36 MYM.Testie wrote:
I think the rings argument is normally pretty bad. It takes a team to win championships. No player on earth has been or ever will be talented enough to carry a team. And Kobe didn't carry his team to the finals. They have a lot of talent spread across the board with another superstar in Gasol. Championship rings takes a very well balanced team effort, or at the very least a 2 man superstar show with some decent contributors. The lakers have both + Phil Jackson. (The Lakers lose a lot when Gasol isn't playing). Cleveland will still be Cleveland if Shaq isn't playing. ;p

The real question is: Is Phil Jackson the greatest coach of all time or the luckiest bastard of all time? I think good arguments can be said for both. However it's more a combination of both.


Red Auerbach.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 21 2010 10:54 GMT
#1333
Pistons:D
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 21 2010 12:31 GMT
#1334
On January 21 2010 19:54 tonight wrote:
Pistons:D


FINALLY STUCKEY FINALLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
returns upon momentous occasions.
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
January 21 2010 14:05 GMT
#1335
Bunch of solid guys popping up out of nowhere lately. Delfino is like a pheonix from the ashes. Turkowho?
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
January 21 2010 14:36 GMT
#1336
don't bring that weak shit in here

"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
January 21 2010 16:34 GMT
#1337
Chris Bosh is an absolute monster... he is gettin the hell out of Toronto after this season lol. 44 points and another loss must be devestating.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
January 21 2010 16:37 GMT
#1338
Turkoglu:
Moktira is da bomb
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 21 2010 16:55 GMT
#1339
On January 21 2010 19:36 MYM.Testie wrote:
I think the rings argument is normally pretty bad. It takes a team to win championships. No player on earth has been or ever will be talented enough to carry a team. And Kobe didn't carry his team to the finals. They have a lot of talent spread across the board with another superstar in Gasol. Championship rings takes a very well balanced team effort, or at the very least a 2 man superstar show with some decent contributors. The lakers have both + Phil Jackson. (The Lakers lose a lot when Gasol isn't playing). Cleveland will still be Cleveland if Shaq isn't playing. ;p



The reason the championship rings argument always, always indicates greatness is because it represents the pinnacle of achievement. Of course you need a good team to win The NBA Finals but when we're comparing superstars of this magnitude Championships have to be mentioned.

Most of this stems from the fact akin to asking who'd you want to take the last shot: Kobe or Lebron? The finals is basically "can this guy succeed at the most clutch moment?" So far Kobe has answered that what, 4 out of 5 times? Lebron is 0 for 1. I always find it ridiculous that anyone would believe Lebron is better than Kobe when he not only has a LONG way to go to even approach Kobe's skill set, but he also doesn't even have the Jordan or Kobe aura.

He can have the showmanship, but he still doesn't give you the feeling that when the game is on the line, or his team is down 10 going into the 4th quarter that in reality they are going to win the game. The only player imo that even comes close to MJ/Kobe in that regard is Dwayne Wade.

But thats a conversation for another day, because I honestly think D.Wade is just as good as Lebron but he doesn't get as much hype.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 21 2010 17:06 GMT
#1340
Lebron had one moment (the 25 points in ~8 minutes or something, against the Pistons a few years ago) that's turned him into an overhyped player. That's not to say he's not good, he's great, but that's like saying Brandon Jenning's one half (in that 55 point burst) had turned him into a perennial all-star. It's not enough to elevate that player to the next spectrum, but unfortunately that seems to be what happened to LBJ, in my opinion.
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