EPTHe's implying that a few people have been rotating players, inflating their numbers for now but putting themselves at a disadvantage later in the season when someone fills up 82 games of Ray Allen compared to someone playing Earl Boykins 10 Jamal Crawford 30 Sebastian Telfair 42 or something stupid like that.
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
He's implying that a few people have been rotating players, inflating their numbers for now but putting themselves at a disadvantage later in the season when someone fills up 82 games of Ray Allen compared to someone playing Earl Boykins 10 Jamal Crawford 30 Sebastian Telfair 42 or something stupid like that. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
What tenbagger is talking about is how people are rotating in their bench players for every game they play, resulting in a roster spot being continuously filled by more than one player. Note that there are 82 games per player per season, so if you're rotating in players without sitting them out at the same rate, you'll end up hitting that 82 game limit for a roster spot before the season is over. This may be less than ideal if you're blindly subbing players in each day, as opposed to strategically picking which games and which players you want. Example: You have Kobe Bryant as your SG and he's sitting there. If he plays all season long and doesn't miss a game, you'll max out your 82 games at your SG spot perfectly. However, let's say you have J.R. Smith on your bench and are constantly rotating him into the SG spot whenever he plays in place of Kobe like you would in H2H. Now you're going to have two players' worth of games played in a single roster spot, which is way more than is allowed. Thus, every game that J.R. plays a game at the SG spot, is one less game that Kobe will be able to play in that spot. If neither player misses any games, then you'll max out the 82 games for your SG spot halfway through the season and left trying to find another roster spot for the rest of Kobe's games. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 23 2009 05:01 XaI)CyRiC wrote: It means that for each roster position (i.e. PG, SG, SF, PF, F, etc.) you only get to play 82 games. For example, if you had one player sitting in a roster spot all season long and they didn't miss any games, you'd max out the amount of games available for that roster spot perfectly. However, you can sub that player out in case of injuries or if they're in a bad matchup (i.e. vs strong defensive teams like BOS), and put another player in that spot to make up for that game. Ultimately, you can only have 82 games played per roster spot and you want to reach that point if at all possible. What tenbagger is talking about is how people are rotating in their bench players for every game they play, resulting in a roster spot being continuously filled by more than one player. Note that there are 82 games per player per season, so if you're rotating in players without sitting them out at the same rate, you'll end up hitting that 82 game limit for a roster spot before the season is over. This may be less than ideal if you're blindly subbing players in each day, as opposed to strategically picking which games and which players you want. Example: You have Kobe Bryant as your SG and he's sitting there. If he plays all season long and doesn't miss a game, you'll max out your 82 games at your SG spot perfectly. However, let's say you have J.R. Smith on your bench and are constantly rotating him into the SG spot whenever he plays in place of Kobe like you would in H2H. Now you're going to have two players' worth of games played in a single roster spot, which is way more than is allowed. Thus, every game that J.R. plays a game at the SG spot, is one less game that Kobe will be able to play in that spot. If neither player misses any games, then you'll max out the 82 games for your SG spot halfway through the season and left trying to find another roster spot for the rest of Kobe's games. with an extra guard slot and 2 utility slots I thought we wouldn't have to worry about pace of games so much | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On December 23 2009 00:16 Southlight wrote: Nothing great, but Redd's killing me with his 40+ missed games a season :| Then I'd say keep him until he gets hurt again this year. The Bucks are looking pretty good right now (compared to previous seasons) so no reason to dump him unless you got better options readily available. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On December 23 2009 06:26 Xeris wrote: ya that's what i'm wondering O_O! It's easy to overplay a position for first time roto/fantasy basketball players. This is one of the reasons why I decided to not do fantasy basketball with TL because it requires more attention/management than I would like. Because people see one player on the bench playing and the starter not, you instinctively want to stick the active player in for that night. Then there's that justification that "it all evens out in the end" which is an actual pitfall because like Cyric's example, 70 games of Kobe and 12 games of whoever is not the same as 40-30-12 mix of Kobe-x-y. That being said I ended up doing one with friends anyways and am annoyed at myself for paying so much attention to it. Edit: Should have edited my previous post. :\ | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On December 23 2009 06:06 Ace wrote:with an extra guard slot and 2 utility slots I thought we wouldn't have to worry about pace of games so much Well if you already have players in each of those spots, and are rotating players from your bench in for them, at least some of them are going to max out earlier than you'd like. Just look at it this way, would you prefer scenario A or B below: Scenario A: PG: Brandon Jennings (76 games); Andre Miller (6 games) SG: Kobe Bryant (79 games); Dahntay Jones (3 games) G: Gilbert Arenas (72 games); Aaron Brooks (10 games) Scenario B: PG: Brandon Jennings (38 games); Andre Miller (36 games); Mario Chalmers (8 games) SG: Kobe Bryant (40 games); Dahntay Jones (34 games); Larry Hughes (8 games) G: Gilbert Arenas (37 games); Aaron Brooks (36 games); Jonny Flynn (9 games) | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I feel like I have no mission in life  I can't even complain about Milwaukee being underrated this year either. Fuck. Last year's rookie class, which was better than anyone would have guessed is possibly (low probability) going to be surpassed by this year's draft. Double Fuck because I was hoping Eric Gordon would get to hog some more spotlight. Well Detroit still sucks which kinda makes me feel good and bad on the inside: they won't be in Boston's way for a title but they also won't be in Lebron's. What a bad season | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 23 2009 07:20 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Well if you already have players in each of those spots, and are rotating players from your bench in for them, at least some of them are going to max out earlier than you'd like. Just look at it this way, would you prefer scenario A or B below: Scenario A: PG: Brandon Jennings (76 games); Andre Miller (6 games) SG: Kobe Bryant (79 games); Dahntay Jones (3 games) G: Gilbert Arenas (72 games); Aaron Brooks (10 games) Scenario B: PG: Brandon Jennings (38 games); Andre Miller (36 games); Mario Chalmers (8 games) SG: Kobe Bryant (40 games); Dahntay Jones (34 games); Larry Hughes (8 games) G: Gilbert Arenas (37 games); Aaron Brooks (36 games); Jonny Flynn (9 games) A obviously ^_^ I was looking at it more like: I have a ton of PFs and Cs. I can play them all freely between my spots and not worry until mid season about maxing out games since instead of 82 slots I have 164. I can max out 1 player easily and still have the remaining 82 to divvy up between everyone else. Worst case scenario I end up using both Forward/PF slots along with both Center slots and I still have 2 utility slots which is another 164 at best but really like another 40 since it's shared by all positions. I was also thinking playing more games now is better just so that I wouldn't have to worry about end of the season benching of playoff bound teams which cost me a a win last year. (albeit in H2H Points) | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 23 2009 07:24 Xeris wrote: so each of the positions has 82 possible games... and utility has like 150 or something? so if you play all 82 games you just basically can't do anything for the rest of the season (assuming you get 82 before the season is over?) yes. Except it's not that easy to hit all 82 for a single position since we have Guard/Forward/another Center slot and 2 utility slots. Then again I didn't think anyone had that many games being played where it was even possible to be on pace to overboard in 2 slots like utility/guard and have no chance of fixing it. edit: nevermind, just looked at everyone's paces for the first time. Looks like a few people really did have schedules that allowed them to play a ton of early games. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
And one of guards is Caron Butler, FMFL. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
whoops ^_^ | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On December 23 2009 07:46 Ace wrote: at least you don't have Michael Redd. whoops ^_^ I did have Redd. Also, apparently I have the touch of death with my pickups/drafted players. Redd dies on me (not surprised here), TJ Ford dies on me early (not really surprised either), then Tony Parker gets dinged up for a time, Chris Paul out for a period of time, Kirilenko goes out literally a game after I pick him up, Duncan and Douglas-Roberts does too. So far I have made like 12 moves, about 8 for injuries and the rest are for performance and balancing out my roster. This is after I get Caron Butler relatively early in the draft cause there was no one better. Anyways, OKC up on LAL, hope they pull it out. | ||
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HonestTea
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each slot = 82 games limit | ||
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tiffany
3664 Posts
On December 23 2009 14:44 HonestTea wrote: BASICALLY each slot = 82 games limit lol guys, just go to my team and it's on the bottom left. no need for speculation also, lol at xeris | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
oh lol man, I'm fucked. | ||
Waxangel
United States33707 Posts
So Pryzbilla ruptured his kneecap, similar to the Oden injury. Both out indefinitely -_-. They need to drink more milk up in Portland | ||
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