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On November 07 2009 01:22 il0seonpurpose wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 12:18 Xeris wrote:
Some things I've noticed:
1) Derrick Rose ALWAYS leaves his feet way too early, it's almost as if he purposefully tries to jump every time he passes to make it look cooler. Please control yourself.
I think it tricks his defender into thinking he's going to shoot, he has mad dribbling skills.
What? You basically learn from the moment you start playing at a decent level of competition that you aren't supposed to leave your feet unless it's for a shot. Probably both of his turnovers last night were due to him jumping up, then realizing he didn't have a good angle for a pass, and turning it over. It's just bad.
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Our streak... noooooooooo!
All good things must come to an end =(
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I want San An to win only because I have a man crush on McDyess.
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Shit, Oden is actually looking decent here, too.
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We smoked the spurs at home yesterday! 
Jazz look really really screwed this year.. my man D Will dont look as ready as he has in the past
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Phoenix beat Boston o shitz yo!
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can't believe the keltics lost to the suns O_O
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paul pierce went 5 for 15. That's a really bad night for him v_v
Jason Richardson also exploded and got hot from 3 point range. We all know THATS a rare thing because J Rich has been pretty much a letdown his last 3 seasons in the league.
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On November 06 2009 01:10 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 13:55 Ace wrote:On November 05 2009 13:45 Xeris wrote:On November 05 2009 13:33 Ace wrote:
Lakers won by 1 point wowzers ya they probably should have lost that.... they definitely won't be going very far if Kobe needs to play 40 mins per game and score 40+ points... bad. well Gasol is still out which does explain a lot :/ In other news Bynum is finally not looking like a bum Indeed. It took 4 years but he's finally making strides. Let's pray he doesn't get injured in January again like he does every year.
Disagree that Bynum is only now making strides. He's been making significant strides each season he's been in the league, and was displaying Allstar-level potential over the last 2 seasons before those freak injuries derailed him.
05-06 (rookie): basically did nothing and barely played
06-07: started 53 games averaging 8.7 ppg 7.0 rpg and 1.6 bpg with 53.3 FG% and 69.5 FT%
07-08: started 25 games averaging 14.6/10.7/2.3/65.6%/68.0%; was starting to dominate in Jan, averaging 17.3/12.2/2.3/70.0%/74.1%, but suffered freak accident in MEM
08-09: returned from injury and started 50 games averaging 14.3/8.0/1.8/56.0%/70.7%; started dominating in Jan again, averaging 17.3/7.8/1.9/58.9%/73.6%, but suffered another freak accident in MEM
09-10: so far starting and averaging 20.0/10.6/1.2/54.9%/75.9%, avoided possible freak accident in MEM thanks to Chuck Hayes causing him a minor injury to his elbow the game before (blessing in disguise?)
The fact that he's continued to improve even as the Lakers got deeper and more talented shows that he's made some real strides each year. I'm not surprised in the slightest by his strong start, although I expect a dip when Gasol comes back. Bottom line though is that he's easily a top 10 center right now, with potential to continue improving.
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On November 07 2009 17:58 Ace wrote:
paul pierce went 5 for 15. That's a really bad night for him v_v
Jason Richardson also exploded and got hot from 3 point range. We all know THATS a rare thing because J Rich has been pretty much a letdown his last 3 seasons in the league.
Disagree that J-Rich has been a letdown the past 3 seasons in the league. He's been producing very nicely across the board since 04-05, with short dips in 06-07 (injury) and the first half of last season (team-wide problems and identity crisis threw everyone off).
07-08: 21.8 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.7 bpg, 3 3/g at 40.6 3PT%
08-09: 18.7/4.1/2.6/1.0/0.2/1.9/45.8%, then traded to PHO where he struggled at first, then back to 17.1/4.6/1.7/1.0/0.5/1.8/37.9% after return to real Suns basketball
He's been an underrated swingman who combines some great athleticism with great 3pt shooting who's been stuck on a lot of struggling teams. I think he fits the PHO run-n-gun style perfectly, just like he did with Nellie-ball back in GS, and is set to have a great season this year. Having Nash setting the table and Amare providing a solid post presence, J-Rich should have all the opportunity he needs to put up impressive numbers all season.
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Oh I agree he's still good. But when I mean letdown I mean remember the old J Rich from GS? The 3 point shooting RAPIST?! The guy who didn't give a shit about Nellie's rotations and just took over when he felt like?
Yea, that guy is gone. His gameplay in Charlotte was quite decent even though we knew he wouldn't thrive in that system and Gerald Wallace was starting to look like the better option for #1 scorer. 07-08 I can't believe those numbers are for real. Goes to show I must have missed a lot of his games because I remember seeing him look extremely lazy. 08-09 well I agree most of that wasn't his fault. Shaq is like a blackhole for offense and it seems Cleveland is learning that too.
Speaking of that I was reading something on another message board and this guy had a great point: If you can find a 3pt shooting or mid-range shooting center (all the great Centers except Shaq, Gasol, Al Jefferson, Rasheed) you can almost surely start building a championship level team with 1 more superstar. Which is a good idea except in the NBA a shooting center is most likely not going to be around or end up playing Power Forward. In other words Troy Murphy needs to leave Indiana ^_^
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It's all about winning for me.
-Lebron
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=sheridanlbj-091107
If salary didn't matter (think of it as a fantasy scenario), what team would give lebron the most titles? For example, if he joined Boston, they'd have a great team for a year or two, then Rondo and a bunch of crappy players, so not so good in the long run. Or he could join Miami, but he doesn't complement Dwayne Wade very well. Or he could join a team of young talent like the thunder, but I'd prefer a great coach to avoid stupid playoff implosions. He could join Houston, but you don't want your championships dependent upon an injury prone star.
My best effort is Orlando. You want to be a great defensive team to be a dynasty, you have great young talent in the very complementary positions (howard and nelson), a pretty good coach with 3 point shooters, and lebron doesn't have to play against dwight howard. I'd like to put lakers next, but mainly due to phil jackson and his coaching competent defensive teams. With kobe getting old, lamar playing the same position, and no point guard, their player contributions would mainly be bynum and a mid career gasol.
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Lebron and Wade actually both could do extremely well together. Think of it as a Pippen/Jordan team: both are top 5 players in the league, both can be the man, both play tenacious defense and both can handle the ball very well. A Lebron/Wade team would just be game over. Then you have a good Center that can hold the boards in O'neal (almost Rodman like) and you've got Beasley who if he could keep his head straight would be really good in supporting.
Their bench is shit though so that ends that.
OKC wouldn't need him and I doubt he'd want to go there.
Portland would be his best bet in terms of "win now and probably a bunch later" since they have so many good pieces and a decent bench with Andre Miller.
Houston would probably be great if Yao ever came back to his pre-injury level.
I hate to say this...but the Clippers would probably be a good look. Eric Gordon is a fucking stud.
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It's absolutely INSANE how little money Pippen made. Chicago basically had the right time/situation/etc where they were able to lock Pippen in for so long for basically no money (in relation to how good he was). It'd be like Wade signing a 5 year $25 contract or something...
Not to keep plugging Simmons' book, but he has a pretty interesting few pages about that  !
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Hollinger must be doing backflips.... Kobe is top 5 in PER... but, but, but... his PER was expected to decrease this year, and it's up by 3-4 points o-O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O
-John Hollinger
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POR: Would seem like a dream fit. However, they play pretty slow and may be too similar to CLE in that respect. I think Lebron would want to break free in a more free-flowing offense that would take full advantage of his abilities. A minor issue though compared to the very talented roster they have there. The PG situation is still very questionable, but I'm sure they could attract a FA with Lebron on the team. Remains to be seen if the team has turned on McMillan or not.
LAL: As much as I'd love to see Lebron and Kobe together, I think Lebron sees Kobe as someone he wants to match or surpass more than someone to win championships together with. Having Kobe on his team would always leave a question as to which of them should really get the credit for any championships (a la Kobe/Shaq controversies), which I think he'd want to avoid. Then again, the prospect of winning may override that. The lineup would be PG (whoever that is), Kobe, Lebron, and two of Odom, Gasol and Bynum. Odom doesn't play the same position as Lebron, but would probably be relegated to 2nd string leader since they'd already have Kobe and Lebron with the starting unit. Having Kobe/Lebron with starters and Odom/Walton with the bench would almost make a PG unnecessary.
LAC: A very exciting roster on paper, but they haven't proven anything yet. One of the more realistic choices because of their cap space. An experienced and talented PG, an Allstar-in-the-making in Gordon, Lebron, and a very solid and young frontcourt in Griffin and Kaman. The team could run, and they have solid role players rounding out their bench.
SAS: A very good fit for winning right now, but... just for right now. In a couple years, he'd just have Parker, albeit in the best-run team in the league.
HOU: If Yao comes back, this could be a great fit for Lebron. Adelman has always been a great offensive coach who would be able to take full advantage of Lebron's skills. Surrounded by great role players who aren't looking to fight for the spotlight, and have no problems doing the dirty work night in and night out. One of the best managements in the NBA that has been making one right move after another. However, he may not want to rely on Yao being healthy.
ORL: A scary fit. A roster that can spread defenses out with insane 3pt shooting and one of the best defenses in the league. Dwight would be a great fit because his greatest contribution is on defense and rebounding, and he doesn't really operate in the post in such a way that he'd plug up the paint. Dwight is probably the most athletic C in the league, and would be able to run the floor with Lebron, and both would be able to draw double-teams to get open 3's for their teammates. Toss in another talented wing in Carter who can create offense for himself, and you've got a nightmare scenario for the rest of the league. It's a good thing for everyone else that it could never actually happen because of how much they're paying Carter, Shard, and Dwight.
UTA: A great offense that would make scoring a lot easier for him, surrounded with a team that could run with him. However questions remain as to their defense and their ability to win on the road. Plus, unless Boozer's gone, he'd have to deal with that particular drama. Team's not all that deep and has big hole at SG, lacking a wing that can keep defenses from collapsing on Lebron.
DAL: A surprisingly deep team now, and probably the best big in the league to pair with Lebron in Dirk. Kidd would be a present-day attraction, but I don't think he's got more than a few seasons left in him at most. However, Cuban has always been willing to spend, and Lebron could feel confident that he'd open up his coffers to sign someone to fill the spot well.
MIA: The prospect of playing with Wade is a very attractive one, but consider me one of those who would have some doubts about the two playing together while being able to maximize their abilities. Both essentially do the same thing, and both want to be the alpha dog. This isn't like Pippen and Jordan where Pippen was content to let Jordan be the man and take all the credit, and where Pippen could be very effective without dominating the ball and was more of a facilitator and jack-of-all-trades. Lebron and Wade are both Jordan-types, not Pippen-types, and would hold each other back to some degree. Also the roster around them is pretty barren outside of Chalmers (inexperienced and questionable), Beasley (questionable and headcase) and JO (getting older and injury-prone). Still, having both Wade and Lebron on the same team would attract a lot of FAs, and you could see a Boston-like situation come of it. But, again, the Boston Big 3 fit together very well, with both KG and Ray able to be very effective without the ball in their hands, which I don't see with Lebron and Wade.
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On November 07 2009 18:37 XaI)CyRiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 01:10 Xeris wrote:On November 05 2009 13:55 Ace wrote:On November 05 2009 13:45 Xeris wrote:On November 05 2009 13:33 Ace wrote:
Lakers won by 1 point wowzers ya they probably should have lost that.... they definitely won't be going very far if Kobe needs to play 40 mins per game and score 40+ points... bad. well Gasol is still out which does explain a lot :/ In other news Bynum is finally not looking like a bum Indeed. It took 4 years but he's finally making strides. Let's pray he doesn't get injured in January again like he does every year. Disagree that Bynum is only now making strides. He's been making significant strides each season he's been in the league, and was displaying Allstar-level potential over the last 2 seasons before those freak injuries derailed him. 05-06 (rookie): basically did nothing and barely played 06-07: started 53 games averaging 8.7 ppg 7.0 rpg and 1.6 bpg with 53.3 FG% and 69.5 FT% 07-08: started 25 games averaging 14.6/10.7/2.3/65.6%/68.0%; was starting to dominate in Jan, averaging 17.3/12.2/2.3/70.0%/74.1%, but suffered freak accident in MEM 08-09: returned from injury and started 50 games averaging 14.3/8.0/1.8/56.0%/70.7%; started dominating in Jan again, averaging 17.3/7.8/1.9/58.9%/73.6%, but suffered another freak accident in MEM 09-10: so far starting and averaging 20.0/10.6/1.2/54.9%/75.9%, avoided possible freak accident in MEM thanks to Chuck Hayes causing him a minor injury to his elbow the game before (blessing in disguise?) The fact that he's continued to improve even as the Lakers got deeper and more talented shows that he's made some real strides each year. I'm not surprised in the slightest by his strong start, although I expect a dip when Gasol comes back. Bottom line though is that he's easily a top 10 center right now, with potential to continue improving.
I completely agree that Bynum has made year-to-year progress, but I think his 09-10 numbers will probably settle down to about 15/9 and remain in that area as long as LAL remains constructed like this. Unless Phil turns the team into Denver circa 1982, there are only so many stats to go around and Bynum is at best the third option on the team. He is improving in virtually every facet of the game (passing, offensive rebounding, taking care of the ball, FT shooting, etc) and I see no reason why he won't soon be the third best center in the league behind Dwight and Al.
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Portlands disadvantages are McMillan, Oden's not being a sure thing, and not being a great defensive team. Brandon Roy's a better complement than Dwayne Wade though.
Clippers, the coach and organization are huge red flags. There's a fair chance of Sterling screwing over the team at some point.
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I don't think Roy is a better complement to Wade... O_O ;
Why do you think that?
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