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On January 29 2012 06:25 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 06:08 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:02 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:40 Linwelin wrote:On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:46 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:26 dekarp wrote:
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Did you know that SuperNova was a BW pro? He cleaned up ZeNEX and is in Code S RO16, please add that to the spoiler. I love it when people take individual, isolated results and apply it to this thread.
Like when everyone wanted to take forgg's 6-0 w/l in Code A and say he was the GOAT and was going to destroy everyone in Code S blah blahblah.
With that being said, in general, CURRENT BW A-teamers would probably mop the floor with non-GSL finalist caliber players. lol no they won't they'll get owned just like forgg has beenn so far, get real. i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. IdrA doesn't have the best mechanics of any Zerg player, what are you talking about... Clearly you don't play SC2. Everyone knows this, even the people casting idra vs nestea have said Idra has much better mechanics than nestea, it's just his decision making. So no sorry, BW pros won't do well just because of mechanics, as we can see with forgg. hahahahaha wow man. just keep it up. idra best mechanics? maybe when FD was the best player in the world. And Forgg was known for timing attacks, not super awesome multi-tasking etc. MVP probably had a better overall raw skill when he switched, so that point is moot It's cute how you think your right, but your blatant blind bias and fanboyism is showing very strongly. Idra does have the best mechannics of any zerg, and it's been confirmed by players much better than you could ever dream of even hoping to be. Now why isn't he the best player? Maybe because this game has factors other than just mechanics, so you BW kiddies saying "oh BW pros will dominate all SC2 pros, they got the mechanics bro" Are just lying to yourselves. It's ok though, your game is dying, and you're angry. I understand that, maybe I too will be like that when SC3 comes out if I become one of those people that refuses to move on and wants to live in the past. But do your best to think logically, instead of with your emotions of "crap my games dying I better make fun of the game that's usurping it in hopes that people will feel bad for playing it!"
I can legitimately not tell if you troll. Really.
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On January 29 2012 06:57 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 06:55 Mr Showtime wrote:On January 29 2012 05:40 Linwelin wrote:On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:46 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:26 dekarp wrote:On January 28 2012 17:48 dsousa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Zenex_Treme just beat BW legend Nada and oGsForGG back-to-back. Did you know that SuperNova was a BW pro? He cleaned up ZeNEX and is in Code S RO16, please add that to the spoiler. I love it when people take individual, isolated results and apply it to this thread. Like when everyone wanted to take forgg's 6-0 w/l in Code A and say he was the GOAT and was going to destroy everyone in Code S blah blahblah. With that being said, in general, CURRENT BW A-teamers would probably mop the floor with non-GSL finalist caliber players. lol no they won't they'll get owned just like forgg has beenn so far, get real. i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. IdrA doesn't have the best mechanics of any Zerg player, what are you talking about... Macro mechanics.... yes. But Nestea and DRG have a leg up in other aspects of the game making them slightly superior. yeah, idra is hitting "d" faster than any other zerg.
I'm not too sure about that either, I think Ret likes to make more Drones.
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On January 29 2012 06:58 VirGin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 06:25 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 06:08 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:02 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:40 Linwelin wrote:On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:46 hunts wrote:
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lol no they won't they'll get owned just like forgg has beenn so far, get real. i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. IdrA doesn't have the best mechanics of any Zerg player, what are you talking about... Clearly you don't play SC2. Everyone knows this, even the people casting idra vs nestea have said Idra has much better mechanics than nestea, it's just his decision making. So no sorry, BW pros won't do well just because of mechanics, as we can see with forgg. hahahahaha wow man. just keep it up. idra best mechanics? maybe when FD was the best player in the world. And Forgg was known for timing attacks, not super awesome multi-tasking etc. MVP probably had a better overall raw skill when he switched, so that point is moot It's cute how you think your right, but your blatant blind bias and fanboyism is showing very strongly. Idra does have the best mechannics of any zerg, and it's been confirmed by players much better than you could ever dream of even hoping to be. Now why isn't he the best player? Maybe because this game has factors other than just mechanics, so you BW kiddies saying "oh BW pros will dominate all SC2 pros, they got the mechanics bro" Are just lying to yourselves. It's ok though, your game is dying, and you're angry. I understand that, maybe I too will be like that when SC3 comes out if I become one of those people that refuses to move on and wants to live in the past. But do your best to think logically, instead of with your emotions of "crap my games dying I better make fun of the game that's usurping it in hopes that people will feel bad for playing it!" I can legitimately not tell if you troll. Really.
...Those who are mechanically better multitask, macro, and micro tons better than those with worse mechanics...you are such a troll.
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On January 29 2012 06:52 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 06:25 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 06:08 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:02 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:40 Linwelin wrote:On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:46 hunts wrote:
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lol no they won't they'll get owned just like forgg has beenn so far, get real. i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. IdrA doesn't have the best mechanics of any Zerg player, what are you talking about... Clearly you don't play SC2. Everyone knows this, even the people casting idra vs nestea have said Idra has much better mechanics than nestea, it's just his decision making. So no sorry, BW pros won't do well just because of mechanics, as we can see with forgg. hahahahaha wow man. just keep it up. idra best mechanics? maybe when FD was the best player in the world. And Forgg was known for timing attacks, not super awesome multi-tasking etc. MVP probably had a better overall raw skill when he switched, so that point is moot It's cute how you think your right, but your blatant blind bias and fanboyism is showing very strongly. Idra does have the best mechannics of any zerg, and it's been confirmed by players much better than you could ever dream of even hoping to be. Now why isn't he the best player? Maybe because this game has factors other than just mechanics, so you BW kiddies saying "oh BW pros will dominate all SC2 pros, they got the mechanics bro" Are just lying to yourselves. It's ok though, your game is dying, and you're angry. I understand that, maybe I too will be like that when SC3 comes out if I become one of those people that refuses to move on and wants to live in the past. But do your best to think logically, instead of with your emotions of "crap my games dying I better make fun of the game that's usurping it in hopes that people will feel bad for playing it!" Haha my blantant blind bias, and you're the one that has to write a dozen sentences each time you post just so you can yell at me. You know what, I think I've figured it out. You're just a HUGE idra fanboy, and you can't stand the notion that some day several people might migrate to the game and prove to be such better players than him that he can't compete. That actually makes a lot of sense, judging from your posts. And for all your "the mods are so BW biased", you should be thanking then for letting you run your mouth this long.
Lol thank them for letting me run my mouth? If they banned everyone who speaks out about the blatant BW bias they wouldn't have enough of a forum left to have any sort of community. Grow up and learn to act like a big boy.
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On January 29 2012 07:02 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 06:52 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:25 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 06:08 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:02 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:40 Linwelin wrote:On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:
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i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. IdrA doesn't have the best mechanics of any Zerg player, what are you talking about... Clearly you don't play SC2. Everyone knows this, even the people casting idra vs nestea have said Idra has much better mechanics than nestea, it's just his decision making. So no sorry, BW pros won't do well just because of mechanics, as we can see with forgg. hahahahaha wow man. just keep it up. idra best mechanics? maybe when FD was the best player in the world. And Forgg was known for timing attacks, not super awesome multi-tasking etc. MVP probably had a better overall raw skill when he switched, so that point is moot It's cute how you think your right, but your blatant blind bias and fanboyism is showing very strongly. Idra does have the best mechannics of any zerg, and it's been confirmed by players much better than you could ever dream of even hoping to be. Now why isn't he the best player? Maybe because this game has factors other than just mechanics, so you BW kiddies saying "oh BW pros will dominate all SC2 pros, they got the mechanics bro" Are just lying to yourselves. It's ok though, your game is dying, and you're angry. I understand that, maybe I too will be like that when SC3 comes out if I become one of those people that refuses to move on and wants to live in the past. But do your best to think logically, instead of with your emotions of "crap my games dying I better make fun of the game that's usurping it in hopes that people will feel bad for playing it!" Haha my blantant blind bias, and you're the one that has to write a dozen sentences each time you post just so you can yell at me. You know what, I think I've figured it out. You're just a HUGE idra fanboy, and you can't stand the notion that some day several people might migrate to the game and prove to be such better players than him that he can't compete. That actually makes a lot of sense, judging from your posts. And for all your "the mods are so BW biased", you should be thanking then for letting you run your mouth this long. Lol thank them for letting me run my mouth? If they banned everyone who speaks out about the blatant BW bias they wouldn't have enough of a forum left to have any sort of community. Grow up and learn to act like a big boy.
No, they would probably have a better forum because there wouldn't be people like you throwing a fit everywhere....
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On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:46 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:26 dekarp wrote:On January 28 2012 17:48 dsousa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Zenex_Treme just beat BW legend Nada and oGsForGG back-to-back. Did you know that SuperNova was a BW pro? He cleaned up ZeNEX and is in Code S RO16, please add that to the spoiler. I love it when people take individual, isolated results and apply it to this thread. Like when everyone wanted to take forgg's 6-0 w/l in Code A and say he was the GOAT and was going to destroy everyone in Code S blah blahblah. With that being said, in general, CURRENT BW A-teamers would probably mop the floor with non-GSL finalist caliber players. lol no they won't they'll get owned just like forgg has beenn so far, get real. i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now.
haha what? Do you even know what mechanics are? Mechanics aren't just pressing D, you do realise this right?
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On January 29 2012 06:52 arfyron wrote:
Just because Idra has better mechanics than nestea does not mean he has the best mechanics of any zerg.
This. Nestea's mechanics aren't very impressive in comparison to other pros.
All code S Zerg and most code A Zerg have better mechanics than him. He wins his games through decision making, not mechanics.
Look at Nestea v Leenock in BlizzCup. Leenock makes Nestea look like an amateur in the micro/macro department. When Nestea's decision making and solid play doesn't pull through, he gets absolutely massacred.
Pretty much every single other Zerg in this season's Code S, except perhaps yugioh, has shown better mechanics than Nestea.
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From Liquipedia:
Mechanics is your execution of micro and macro.
Idra might have nice macro but his micro and control is weak. Constant scouting is also a mechanical skill and something Idra doesn't fair too well on.
Leenock and DRG have the best combination of micro, multitask and macro from the Zergs in Sc2.
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On January 29 2012 07:04 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:46 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:26 dekarp wrote:On January 28 2012 17:48 dsousa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Zenex_Treme just beat BW legend Nada and oGsForGG back-to-back. Did you know that SuperNova was a BW pro? He cleaned up ZeNEX and is in Code S RO16, please add that to the spoiler. I love it when people take individual, isolated results and apply it to this thread. Like when everyone wanted to take forgg's 6-0 w/l in Code A and say he was the GOAT and was going to destroy everyone in Code S blah blahblah. With that being said, in general, CURRENT BW A-teamers would probably mop the floor with non-GSL finalist caliber players. lol no they won't they'll get owned just like forgg has beenn so far, get real. i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. haha what? Do you even know what mechanics are? Mechanics aren't just pressing D, you do realise this right?
LOL if that were true, then Ret would be GSL champion twenty times over.
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I still don't understand the reinforcement of this myth that Idra has "the best mechanics of any Zerg."
Ya they are great and he has really strong macro production but somehow people keep repeating ad nauseum that his mechanics are unarguably the best and it has kind of become an accepted parody of itself by now.
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On January 29 2012 06:45 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 06:44 dekarp wrote:On January 29 2012 06:33 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 06:31 BritWrangler wrote:On January 29 2012 06:25 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 06:08 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:02 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:40 Linwelin wrote:On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:
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it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay:
last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games.
i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. IdrA doesn't have the best mechanics of any Zerg player, what are you talking about... Clearly you don't play SC2. Everyone knows this, even the people casting idra vs nestea have said Idra has much better mechanics than nestea, it's just his decision making. So no sorry, BW pros won't do well just because of mechanics, as we can see with forgg. hahahahaha wow man. just keep it up. idra best mechanics? maybe when FD was the best player in the world. And Forgg was known for timing attacks, not super awesome multi-tasking etc. MVP probably had a better overall raw skill when he switched, so that point is moot It's cute how you think your right, but your blatant blind bias and fanboyism is showing very strongly. Idra does have the best mechannics of any zerg, and it's been confirmed by players much better than you could ever dream of even hoping to be. Now why isn't he the best player? Maybe because this game has factors other than just mechanics, so you BW kiddies saying "oh BW pros will dominate all SC2 pros, they got the mechanics bro" Are just lying to yourselves. It's ok though, your game is dying, and you're angry. I understand that, maybe I too will be like that when SC3 comes out if I become one of those people that refuses to move on and wants to live in the past. But do your best to think logically, instead of with your emotions of "crap my games dying I better make fun of the game that's usurping it in hopes that people will feel bad for playing it!" Any evidence that these players have confirmed IdrA's apparent mechanical godliness? Well for one, watch idra vs nestea at the last MLG, I think it was either the MLG or their world championship or whatever where he is outmacroing nestea in all 3 games, and the casters themselves say that idras mechanics are better than nesteas (nestea being the best overall zerg in the world) Since when did casters become all-knowing centennial beings? I would venture to say a good amount of hardcore SC2 viewers/players know more than most casters. Artosis being the exception. Howbout since they used to be pros in BW and are still high master/GM level while being full time casters? What are your credentials for judginng skill? And it was artosis/tasteless doing the casting.
They weren't pros in BW and weren't even close to becoming ones . Being a pro in BW means you have to win the courage tournament in korea . I think there was only 1 foreigner to ever win courage or something like that . I respect Artosis , Day[9] and Tasteless's knowledge of the game as it is their job knowing about it , but even they can't say that one player clearly has the best macro let alone mechanics over the others .
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Idra has good mechanics for a foreigner because he practiced BW at a KOREAN teamhouse for a year prior to SC2's release. So has almost every other player in the GSL, and a lot of them are better.
Let's put it into perspective. ForGG won an MSL in 2009, when people would consider him "good but not great." Dominating players from this era, such as Jaedong, Bisu, Kal etc. are still around while ForGG is now playing SC2. Don't you think that says something about the quality of players that is Flash/JD that are able to stay on top?
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On January 29 2012 07:02 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 06:52 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:25 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 06:08 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 06:02 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:40 Linwelin wrote:On January 29 2012 05:37 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 05:31 Shiori wrote:On January 29 2012 03:58 hunts wrote:On January 29 2012 03:53 Shiori wrote:
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i'd hardly say forgg is getting owned. Last time he won was in code A, yup he's REALLY tearing up the SC2 scene lol. The rest won't do much better. it's pretty clear that you've never played BW from the rest of your posts, but okay: last time he won was in code A? yeah, where he went undefeated on his first try while making people like Polt look like amateurs. Then he loses against Leenock and MC in Code S, one of whom is a previous finalist and the other of whom has won multiple GSLs. And even with all that, it's not like he got crushed; he put up competitive games. i really think you underestimate how good people like flash/bisu/jaedong are. i'm not even a bw fanboy and i can admit that once they get used to the game, their sheer ability to multitask and play at a consistently high APM is going to make them leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now. What does me playing BW have to do with it? If you want to bring skill into it, you've been diamond forever and will forever remain that way. And I've played SC1 since it first came out way before BW. Granted I never played 1v1, I did UMS and team games since I was still a kid, but that's beside the point. lol "leagues ahead of more or less anybody around right now" If mechanics were the deciding factor Idra would've won a GSL by now since he has by far the best mechannics out of any zerg player in the world right now. IdrA doesn't have the best mechanics of any Zerg player, what are you talking about... Clearly you don't play SC2. Everyone knows this, even the people casting idra vs nestea have said Idra has much better mechanics than nestea, it's just his decision making. So no sorry, BW pros won't do well just because of mechanics, as we can see with forgg. hahahahaha wow man. just keep it up. idra best mechanics? maybe when FD was the best player in the world. And Forgg was known for timing attacks, not super awesome multi-tasking etc. MVP probably had a better overall raw skill when he switched, so that point is moot It's cute how you think your right, but your blatant blind bias and fanboyism is showing very strongly. Idra does have the best mechannics of any zerg, and it's been confirmed by players much better than you could ever dream of even hoping to be. Now why isn't he the best player? Maybe because this game has factors other than just mechanics, so you BW kiddies saying "oh BW pros will dominate all SC2 pros, they got the mechanics bro" Are just lying to yourselves. It's ok though, your game is dying, and you're angry. I understand that, maybe I too will be like that when SC3 comes out if I become one of those people that refuses to move on and wants to live in the past. But do your best to think logically, instead of with your emotions of "crap my games dying I better make fun of the game that's usurping it in hopes that people will feel bad for playing it!" Haha my blantant blind bias, and you're the one that has to write a dozen sentences each time you post just so you can yell at me. You know what, I think I've figured it out. You're just a HUGE idra fanboy, and you can't stand the notion that some day several people might migrate to the game and prove to be such better players than him that he can't compete. That actually makes a lot of sense, judging from your posts. And for all your "the mods are so BW biased", you should be thanking then for letting you run your mouth this long. Lol thank them for letting me run my mouth? If they banned everyone who speaks out about the blatant BW bias they wouldn't have enough of a forum left to have any sort of community. Grow up and learn to act like a big boy.
Well I've always thought big boys didn't throw fits on the Internet, but I guess we have differing definitions.
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On January 29 2012 07:11 nvs. wrote:
I still don't understand the reinforcement of this myth that Idra has "the best mechanics of any Zerg."
Ya they are great and he has really strong macro production but somehow people keep repeating ad nauseum that his mechanics are unarguably the best and it has kind of become an accepted parody of itself by now.
Because idra gives the illusion of insane macro just because he takes big risks. Just rush him a little and you gain a rage quit from him.
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How come this thread has now derailed into a pro/ anti Idra debate?
Can you guys stay on topic please?
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On January 29 2012 07:29 GreyMasta wrote:
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How come this thread has now derailed into a pro/ anti Idra debate?
Can you guys stay on topic please?
This has turned into "everyone bash hunts". And I can't blame them, he's totally talking out of his ass and making ridiculous statements.
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On January 29 2012 07:35 dekarp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 07:29 GreyMasta wrote:
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How come this thread has now derailed into a pro/ anti Idra debate?
Can you guys stay on topic please? This has turned into "everyone bash hunts". And I can't blame them, he's totally talking out of his ass and making ridiculous statements.
Its because some guy said "BW players switching over to SC2 won't be good because mechanics aren't everything. If mechanics were everything, Idra would be GSL champ because he has best mechanics of any zerg blah blah blah."
So we are sort of on topic.
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On January 29 2012 07:50 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 07:35 dekarp wrote:On January 29 2012 07:29 GreyMasta wrote:
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How come this thread has now derailed into a pro/ anti Idra debate?
Can you guys stay on topic please? This has turned into "everyone bash hunts". And I can't blame them, he's totally talking out of his ass and making ridiculous statements. Its because some guy said "BW players switching over to SC2 won't be good because mechanics aren't everything. If mechanics were everything, Idra would be GSL champ because he has best mechanics of any zerg blah blah blah." So we are sort of on topic.
And Idra kind of have (well had at least) the best mechanics of any ... foreign ... zerg.
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On January 29 2012 08:03 aebriol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 07:50 Whatson wrote:On January 29 2012 07:35 dekarp wrote:On January 29 2012 07:29 GreyMasta wrote:
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How come this thread has now derailed into a pro/ anti Idra debate?
Can you guys stay on topic please? This has turned into "everyone bash hunts". And I can't blame them, he's totally talking out of his ass and making ridiculous statements. Its because some guy said "BW players switching over to SC2 won't be good because mechanics aren't everything. If mechanics were everything, Idra would be GSL champ because he has best mechanics of any zerg blah blah blah." So we are sort of on topic. And Idra kind of have (well had at least) the best mechanics of any ... foreign ... zerg.
What about stephano? Maybe even Nerchio? idra just gets lots of face time, but by that rule incontrol would be the best protoss.
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I have not read all this thread but i am wondering, has there been talk about some of those HUGE names moving from BW to SC2, perhaps when HOTS comes out?
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