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HnR)o.o
Profile Joined October 2006
United States91 Posts
November 06 2006 23:50 GMT
#61
<3 FA thx ^^;
A cute girl stopped me on the way, so I danced.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 07 2006 00:04 GMT
#62
On November 07 2006 08:39 SuperJongMan wrote:
Awesome. Learned new zealot not-making timing, and the tech-explosion timing.
I guess that's what I been not thinking about...
Isn't this pretty easily substitutable for many maps as a main sair/dt opener up to expo/research/tech?

Yay. Those two timings are I think so key.

FA, you musta done this just for me. I love you. I love you like sunshine and lollipops.

Thank you.

Hm, I think it's a pretty good build for other maps too but there's one thing about this build tho.. It's not optimal in terms of having many units as soon as possible, it's very flexible and can be used to play normally so yeah, it's fine for other maps.

But if you want to play timing PvZ, there's a few things that should be changed I think.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44367 Posts
November 07 2006 00:23 GMT
#63
Gonna memorise this along with the words FA is God. Then I'm gonna avoid losing games on RH.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
November 07 2006 00:49 GMT
#64
Due to FAs quick work I was able to get this up rather fast. Here is a link to FAs guide on my site. He has been updating his guide here as well, if you guys have not noticed. We interacted a bit, but we look at the game somewhat differently, so some sections may have ended up rather differently. This is undoubtedly FA guide, and he did a great job.

http://www.ArtofProtoss.vze.com/faspvzrushhour.htm
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aRai
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden40 Posts
November 07 2006 02:04 GMT
#65
some truly nice shit u got there FA!
Born to lose, live to win
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44367 Posts
November 07 2006 02:25 GMT
#66
I notice absolutely no mention of darchons. If Zerg goes air heavy with devs and grades your sairs won't cope and your reavers will be wasted. Even if they don't go air heavy, a fairly fast tech change to mutas with a few scourges will claim the air if you don't notice the spire building. With only one stargate you won't be able to compete. Would you focus around stormer cannon camping or some other counter?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 07 2006 03:06 GMT
#67
On November 07 2006 11:25 Kwark wrote:
I notice absolutely no mention of darchons. If Zerg goes air heavy with devs and grades your sairs won't cope and your reavers will be wasted. Even if they don't go air heavy, a fairly fast tech change to mutas with a few scourges will claim the air if you don't notice the spire building. With only one stargate you won't be able to compete. Would you focus around stormer cannon camping or some other counter?

I have no idea what you mean, truth be told..

If you mean early game, no zerg is going to go air heavy on a land map, not without dying anyway.

If you mean middle game, what's his air going to do vs 12+ dragoons and a bunch of high templars?

You don't produce corsairs until later in the game, and it's done because he's going ultra/ling, hence not air. If he goes devourers to counter your 6-7 corsairs.. honestly, just say 'thank you' and take the main. If you mean devourers to counter you once you go carrier/sair after securing the empty main.. 10 000 gas vs 4 depleted gases.. I'm betting on the guy with 10 000 gas (the toss).

The only time a zerg going mass air is something to fear is if you are doing like, sair reaver.. But this is not sair reaver.

Anyway, there's a variation where you get a Dark archon with your first two dts if you see spire, but I don't like it very much (it's on time to rape mutas but hm, something about it I dont like).

I dont really see why you think a zerg would mass devourers vs this anyhow.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44367 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-07 03:45:00
November 07 2006 03:44 GMT
#68
And guardians too, sorry, kinda assumed they went without saying. Talking as a late game tech change here when he see's your sim city and shits himself.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 07 2006 03:49 GMT
#69
On November 07 2006 12:44 Kwark wrote:
And guardians too, sorry, kinda assumed they went without saying. Talking as a late game tech change here when he see's your sim city and shits himself.

Well, at this point you'll have around, oh I dont know, 10 high templars

You can make a dark archon if you want, they do good together with sair/carrier, even though storm will probably be enough due to him having so little gas =P
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
aQ.bitchaRd
Profile Joined February 2006
Russian Federation79 Posts
November 07 2006 05:35 GMT
#70
gj! brilliant! thanx FA.

but i have one more question for you, which, as i think, you didn't paid enough attention here. if zerg sees 1 gate tech and goes 2 hatch all-in-ling with speed - is it possible to defend it without forge? what do you usually do vs fast all-in-ling (~20 or so)? forge after core, after stargate? 3rd zealot, some probes back to zealots? what?

thank you
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
November 07 2006 12:35 GMT
#71
we v-tec players have been doing this for years
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
November 07 2006 12:39 GMT
#72
On November 07 2006 21:35 SoMuchBetter wrote:
we v-tec players have been doing this for years


Oh dear god I so cracked up when I read that. -_-;
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nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
November 07 2006 12:53 GMT
#73
On November 07 2006 21:35 SoMuchBetter wrote:
we v-tec players have been doing this for years
Im so glad I read the other thread first LOLOL
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
November 07 2006 13:00 GMT
#74
fronzengod => thanks a lot for your help, BIG great work dont hear the stupid coments. best part : logic explanation, not like do this then this and win.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
November 07 2006 13:15 GMT
#75
FA:

that is the most elaborate strategy Ive ever come across, I really like how it is fully geared for the lategame + the fact that alot of the things mentioned can be integrated into standard play

simcity toss ftw!
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
November 07 2006 13:43 GMT
#76
On November 07 2006 21:53 nortydog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2006 21:35 SoMuchBetter wrote:
we v-tec players have been doing this for years
Im so glad I read the other thread first LOLOL


You sure the guy who posted it in the other thread didn't mean it as a joke in the first place?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
November 07 2006 13:48 GMT
#77
On November 07 2006 22:43 skyglow1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2006 21:53 nortydog wrote:
On November 07 2006 21:35 SoMuchBetter wrote:
we v-tec players have been doing this for years
Im so glad I read the other thread first LOLOL


You sure the guy who posted it in the other thread didn't mean it as a joke in the first place?


Very sure. ZaplinG has done that at least twice now --;; Once referring to Kingdom's Dragoon control, and once referring to the larvae/muta control of Shark.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
November 07 2006 14:34 GMT
#78
On November 07 2006 22:48 penitent exile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2006 22:43 skyglow1 wrote:
On November 07 2006 21:53 nortydog wrote:
On November 07 2006 21:35 SoMuchBetter wrote:
we v-tec players have been doing this for years
Im so glad I read the other thread first LOLOL


You sure the guy who posted it in the other thread didn't mean it as a joke in the first place?


Very sure. ZaplinG has done that at least twice now --;; Once referring to Kingdom's Dragoon control, and once referring to the larvae/muta control of Shark.


I feel sorry for him then
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 07 2006 17:06 GMT
#79
thx for making zvp harder!
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
November 07 2006 19:21 GMT
#80
On November 07 2006 22:48 penitent exile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2006 22:43 skyglow1 wrote:
On November 07 2006 21:53 nortydog wrote:
On November 07 2006 21:35 SoMuchBetter wrote:
we v-tec players have been doing this for years
Im so glad I read the other thread first LOLOL


You sure the guy who posted it in the other thread didn't mean it as a joke in the first place?


Very sure. ZaplinG has done that at least twice now --;; Once referring to Kingdom's Dragoon control, and once referring to the larvae/muta control of Shark.


Thats where I remember that from...

FA, I feel like I know how to play PvZ now, and I'm a T . I actually think I'll practice this, it seems fun and very unknown mu to me
There was one really amazing gal. She was one of the biggest chick i ever seen.
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