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c0olL
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SC2Toastie
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NovaMB
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 29 2014 22:14 c0olL wrote: 50% P in Code S. gj D.kim LOL Well to be fair there has been over 50% representation in Code S for terrans a few times. Here, here, here, this doesn't really count because it's the super tournament and they were 29/64 but ended up over 50% for the ro32 Not that I think everything is peachy today but it has been the other way before. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 29 2014 22:52 Darkhoarse wrote: Well to be fair there has been over 50% representation in Code S for terrans a few times. Here, here, here, this doesn't really count because it's the super tournament and they were 29/64 but ended up over 50% for the ro32 Not that I think everything is peachy today but it has been the other way before. You cannot really say "haha when the game was new the aggressive race beat the defensive race (that's ALWAYS like that) so it got nerfed and stuff got better but now Protoss deserves to rampage for a year because that is fair. Whatever way people try to spin it: The fact only 3 terrans participate in Proleague and only 3 made it into Code S is HORRENDOUS and a SHAME on Blizzard and the balance statement they posted 3 weeks prior, and their proposed fixes. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 29 2014 23:59 SC2Toastie wrote: You cannot really say "haha when the game was new the aggressive race beat the defensive race (that's ALWAYS like that) so it got nerfed and stuff got better but now Protoss deserves to rampage for a year because that is fair. Whatever way people try to spin it: The fact only 3 terrans participate in Proleague and only 3 made it into Code S is HORRENDOUS and a SHAME on Blizzard and the balance statement they posted 3 weeks prior, and their proposed fixes. Where did I say that any of that, especially the part where they deserved to rampage. Also people complain about protoss all ins and that terran have no aggressive options so you saying that terran was the aggressive race beating protoss, the defensive race is weird. Like I said in my original point I don't think what is happening right now is okay and don't think Protoss "deserves to rampage for a year because that is fair". | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
 It's just that those are Protosses favorite quirks to bring up. Also: Terran USED TO BE the aggressor vs Protoss. And it is normal from a balance POV if the aggresor seems 'OP' for a short while, because the defender needs to figure out how to hold (see, for example, Sentry Immortal All in, 1/1/1 partially, etc.). However, Terran needs to take SO many precautions against Protoss that the builds become highly uneconomical and rely on a blindcounter to work - that is what Terrans are frustrated about and what Blizzard fails to identify/address | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
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LordEnglish
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LordEnglish
United States2 Posts
On January 29 2014 22:29 NovaMB wrote: Well, they'll have to fix the MSC eventually. Atleast fix its bloody vision range. Its vision is 14, thats larger than a Scan, damnit Yup and the vision is that way, as i understand it, because of when the MSC was the cannon on the nexus back in beta HOTS. When they changed the ability they just didn't bother to deal with the vision that the MSC originally needed to be the cannon. In other words, its vision is that big because Blizzard is lazy. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:36 LordEnglish wrote: Yup and the vision is that way, as i understand it, because of when the MSC was the cannon on the nexus back in beta HOTS. When they changed the ability they just didn't bother to deal with the vision that the MSC originally needed to be the cannon. In other words, its vision is that big because Blizzard is lazy. Goddamn, that's actually true. Good point haha :D | ||
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c0olL
129 Posts
On January 29 2014 22:52 Darkhoarse wrote: Well to be fair there has been over 50% representation in Code S for terrans a few times. Here, here, here, this doesn't really count because it's the super tournament and they were 29/64 but ended up over 50% for the ro32 Not that I think everything is peachy today but it has been the other way before. i never said D.kim did a good job, if it was the other way before it just means that he didn't learn anything from his exp in this job (but we all know that, after +-8 months of GGlords&winfestor comp) | ||
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SC2Toastie
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NovaMB
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WombaT
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On January 30 2014 20:23 Wombat_NI wrote: HerO's at ROG damnit :p I know Dear can beat TaeJa, I dont know if HerO can do so offline (we saw at Warer whats possible online though) | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27469 Posts
Those are two Protoss I consider top tier though, I don't want to see whining if either does well haha. The issue has been for me that relatively mediocre Protoss players can go toe-to-toe with the very finest TvPers. Also the current state of play makes the play of great Protoss players oft indistinguishable from that of ones who aren't which I dislike | ||
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GreenMash
Norway1746 Posts
On January 30 2014 20:36 Wombat_NI wrote: Nani can beat Dear, exciting times! HerO is actually up in H2H in sets and matches vs Taeja, but the former is a bit inflated after HerO 4-0ed an out-of-shape Taeja in that Dreamhack final iirc Those are two Protoss I consider top tier though, I don't want to see whining if either does well haha. The issue has been for me that relatively mediocre Protoss players can go toe-to-toe with the very finest TvPers. Also the current state of play makes the play of great Protoss players oft indistinguishable from that of ones who aren't which I dislike Yeah i agree. Sometimes i can barely see the difference in the play of a code a player and a high finishing gsl player. Where as with terran you can see that very clearly | ||
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