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froggynoddy
United Kingdom452 Posts
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Maldion
Finland1 Post
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
On April 12 2012 13:09 Seldentar wrote: I'm not saying aliens exist, but aliens exist! hahaha priceless  Seriously though I think it would be a damn good match I cannot see that without thinking of the history guy with the hair. This guy: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l34FW.jpg) Also, Scarlett would be a good bet. Hoping to hear more about potential team/sponsor deals. Razer, where are you? You sponsor EVERYONE else... | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:59 chocopan wrote: Heyhey they are about to discuss Scarlett on Live on Three right now. Will update with summary if it seems worthwhile. I'm seeing red! harharhar Update: Summary below. + Show Spoiler + They say the tg thing is the least notable thing about her and that her play is genuinely impressive. Note the buzz about team offers. Acknowledge it is only one result, but can't not be impressed. Apparently everyone is asking teams if they are picking her up, and SirScoots says you can't make a career on one result. Watching her play he says she looks like she plays solid, it wasn't cheesy play or anything, which suggest she has real promise, but there have to be a series of solid results for serious teams to take her seriously. He also notes sometimes it can be sort of easier if you come in as an unknown, eg. when she was given the regame, which probably wouldn't have happened if she had been perceived as a Real Threat. They think dm was unwise to give her a regame. (Obviously :D .) But still regame aside she beat him no ifs no buts. They comment that mostly the community has been mature about the tg aspects of the story. Like pretty much all of the Scarlett coverage I've seen in the community, it was positive. SirScoots made fair points, contra the "so much hype" crit above. For anyone interested, here's the VOD for Live On Three: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/314692505 , starting at 1:00:36 for discussion about Scarlett. | ||
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Sphen5117
United States413 Posts
On April 12 2012 13:17 corpuscle wrote: The graph you're citing is sorted by EAPM, which is a shitty and misleading statistic. You have players like IMMvp rating below Sheth (he's "anonymous"), as well as players like LosirA and Zenio topping the chart. EAPM is essentially a measure of whether you spam clicks or keyboard presses more; a lot of the time, players with high EAPM have it because every time they tell a unit to move they're clicking five times, whereas the player with lower EAPM but higher standard APM is spending that time tapping their production facilities instead of clicking. It's just an awful statistic, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Having 200 APM is somewhat "slow" for a pro, there's no real way around it. I've averaged out to 200 APM over 20-minute games, and I'm barely in diamond league. That's not to say that being slow means that you're bad; Flash averages around 300 APM which is "slow" relative to the people he's playing against, but he still beats 70% of them. I think you might be wrong, but not sure. I believe EAPM doesn't count the five clicks you use to command a unit to move, which would be counted by simply APM. Which is why your EAPM is ALWAYS lower than your APM, and lets you calculate the redundancy of clicks. Granted, I'm not discounting the deductions you can make from someone who spams alot, it obviously helps keep you moving and thinking at a quick pace, but I'm not suprised that Losira, who is simply a high APM player would also have high EAPM. Not implying anything about skill level or comparisons, I just think we might have different understandings of EAPM. | ||
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Bananasword01
Australia220 Posts
On April 13 2012 00:34 Sphen5117 wrote: I think you might be wrong, but not sure. I believe EAPM doesn't count the five clicks you use to command a unit to move, which would be counted by simply APM. Which is why your EAPM is ALWAYS lower than your APM, and lets you calculate the redundancy of clicks. Granted, I'm not discounting the deductions you can make from someone who spams alot, it obviously helps keep you moving and thinking at a quick pace, but I'm not suprised that Losira, who is simply a high APM player would also have high EAPM. Not implying anything about skill level or comparisons, I just think we might have different understandings of EAPM. The issue isn't really which one is better, it's that both are arbitrary and provide little information abut a game that while it does require speed also requires strategy and tactics. In the end you may as well use the raw data because if they are both corrupted and arbitrary the data that has been modified by a single persons opinion on what is considered redundant is doubly arbitrary. example : many move commands in the same spot are useless. But having a pattern of repeating control groups or camera hotkeys allows a player to see information more frequently. The better player is the one that wins. I don't even care if they all inned. | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On April 13 2012 00:34 Sphen5117 wrote: I think you might be wrong, but not sure. I believe EAPM doesn't count the five clicks you use to command a unit to move, which would be counted by simply APM. Which is why your EAPM is ALWAYS lower than your APM, and lets you calculate the redundancy of clicks. Granted, I'm not discounting the deductions you can make from someone who spams alot, it obviously helps keep you moving and thinking at a quick pace, but I'm not suprised that Losira, who is simply a high APM player would also have high EAPM. Not implying anything about skill level or comparisons, I just think we might have different understandings of EAPM. EAPM counts repeated clicks, what it doesn't count is when you switch your control groups while "tapping" (ie when you're going 14151617 to check if your production facilities are building stuff) without actually building anything. edit: the guy above me put it best. Both aren't that useful information-wise as long as you have enough APM to do what you need to (I'd say around ~200), but EAPM is worse because the way it's measured is fairly subjective (and, in my opinion, flawed). | ||
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Bananasword01
Australia220 Posts
On April 13 2012 00:48 corpuscle wrote: EAPM counts repeated clicks, what it doesn't count is when you switch your control groups while "tapping" (ie when you're going 14151617 to check if your production facilities are building stuff) without actually building anything. Eapm is truly terrible. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
Btw, sc2gears has a different definition for eapm than Blizzard, that's more adapt at filtering out spam while keeping meaningful actions. | ||
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Ramone
Canada85 Posts
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Scarlett`
Korea (South)2444 Posts
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England94 Posts
oh and sign me up | ||
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Iamportal
United States184 Posts
On April 13 2012 03:27 Scarlett` wrote: Making a decision between a few very good team offers ~ Will post team I am joining on twitter monday ! That's amazing! Good luck ^_^ | ||
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Cor_Malek
Poland61 Posts
On April 13 2012 03:27 Scarlett` wrote: Making a decision between a few very good team offers ~ Will post team I am joining on twitter monday ! Hah, can't stop wondering if it's going to be foreigners or Koreans. I hope you get some great practice before Canadian nationals/qualifiers for Blizz World Championship. GL! | ||
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KebertXela
United States322 Posts
On April 13 2012 03:27 Scarlett` wrote: Making a decision between a few very good team offers ~ Will post team I am joining on twitter monday ! Yayy!! I hope you choose a great team that will support you! Scarlett'Prime Fighting!!! | ||
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Dac
Canada538 Posts
On April 13 2012 03:36 Cor_Malek wrote: Def sign me up. Hah, can't stop wondering if it's going to be foreigners or Koreans. I hope you get some great practice before Canadian nationals/qualifiers for Blizz World Championship. GL! I'm curious about the same thing, and don't even know how to quantify what would be best.... but the fluff answer in the back of my mind is a foreigner team with the option of Korea. Congrats!@! | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
On April 13 2012 03:40 Dac wrote: I'm curious about the same thing, and don't even know how to quantify what would be best.... but the fluff answer in the back of my mind is a foreigner team with the option of Korea. Congrats!@! Would be my choice too. The Koreans are joining foreigner teams because there's more money and chances to go to events in a foreign team. But only if they allow you to go to Korea to practice. | ||
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FroggerScarletFan
Canada45 Posts
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Chytilova
United States790 Posts
On April 13 2012 03:37 KebertXela wrote: Yayy!! I hope you choose a great team that will support you! Scarlett'Prime Fighting!!! OMG! If it's actually Prime that would be like the coolest thing ever! Can't wait for Monday! :D | ||
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Yst
Canada70 Posts
Canadian Zergs will at last have a national hero on a pro team, it seems. Mostly, we've gotten Toss players, in the past. Funny thing that another notable Canadian Zerg these days is DaSakura, another top female player (though one Scarlett has beaten). | ||
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