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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17805 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 13:33:43
March 19 2019 13:30 GMT
#741
On March 17 2019 07:58 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:17 Alejandrisha wrote:
can we have an honest discussion about this?

why can't we have a dishonest discussion about it?
" now, in all honesty" ....
+ Show Spoiler +


i'd like to answer this but just scroll further in the thread

whoever that girl was from Europe. its been so long i can not remember her name. Any how, she was his #1 admin or "head" admin/moderator for a long time. He stated he could not trust any of his Ops/Mods except her so he decided to pay her a small monthly salary and have her control/run/regulate the "mod team" for his channel. i do not think he was paying any other MOD except his #1 head mod but i wasn't paying close enough attention to the silliness to know for sure.

i'm pretty sure several twitch channel broadcasters pay their #1 admin/production person at least some cash. they probably don't discuss it constantly because they don't want to piss off the lower tier admins/mods/production people
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
March 19 2019 13:45 GMT
#742
On March 19 2019 22:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2019 07:58 Alejandrisha wrote:
On March 17 2019 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:17 Alejandrisha wrote:
can we have an honest discussion about this?

why can't we have a dishonest discussion about it?
" now, in all honesty" ....
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BpfomSBz8c&t=6m50s


i'd like to answer this but just scroll further in the thread

whoever that girl was from Europe. its been so long i can not remember her name. Any how, she was his #1 admin or "head" admin/moderator for a long time. He stated he could not trust any of his Ops/Mods except her so he decided to pay her a small monthly salary and have her control/run/regulate the "mod team" for his channel. i do not think he was paying any other MOD except his #1 head mod but i wasn't paying close enough attention to the silliness to know for sure.

i'm pretty sure several twitch channel broadcasters pay their #1 admin/production person at least some cash. they probably don't discuss it constantly because they don't want to piss off the lower tier admins/mods/production people



Her name was Maria! I remember!!!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17805 Posts
March 19 2019 13:52 GMT
#743
On March 19 2019 22:45 KelianQatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2019 22:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On March 17 2019 07:58 Alejandrisha wrote:
On March 17 2019 05:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On March 17 2019 04:17 Alejandrisha wrote:
can we have an honest discussion about this?

why can't we have a dishonest discussion about it?
" now, in all honesty" ....
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BpfomSBz8c&t=6m50s


i'd like to answer this but just scroll further in the thread

whoever that girl was from Europe. its been so long i can not remember her name. Any how, she was his #1 admin or "head" admin/moderator for a long time. He stated he could not trust any of his Ops/Mods except her so he decided to pay her a small monthly salary and have her control/run/regulate the "mod team" for his channel. i do not think he was paying any other MOD except his #1 head mod but i wasn't paying close enough attention to the silliness to know for sure.

i'm pretty sure several twitch channel broadcasters pay their #1 admin/production person at least some cash. they probably don't discuss it constantly because they don't want to piss off the lower tier admins/mods/production people

Her name was Maria! I remember!!!

i wonder if that was her real name or if it was all a bunch of BS. who knows.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 19 2019 17:57 GMT
#744
i linked a reddit thread about maria in the previous page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/6ql2rv/avilo_goes_through_a_complete_breakdown_on_stream/

he was avilo's "girlfriend" and people were clowning him because she was in europe and they had never met and he got upset and demanded she come online and state that they were in fact dating, of course she didn't, and then he started sobbing hysterically. when asked for any proof that they were "dating" avilo had nothing. apparently all maria did was tweet "<3" and also in chat

i guess similar thing is happening now with atira or whatever, dude is delusional. avilo is cool because he is the troll train wreck that is fun to laugh at and cheer against, but its one thing to accuse everyoen who beats you of map hacking and stream sniping, its another to think these women love you and then talk about them non stop and harass them and then claim innocence.

i mean this girl called the cops on this guy? this is the sort of creepy ass behavior that can lead to bad things happening in real life, he should go to jail if he crosses any lines
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States493 Posts
March 19 2019 18:11 GMT
#745
On March 20 2019 02:57 fishjie wrote:
i linked a reddit thread about maria in the previous page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/6ql2rv/avilo_goes_through_a_complete_breakdown_on_stream/

he was avilo's "girlfriend" and people were clowning him because she was in europe and they had never met and he got upset and demanded she come online and state that they were in fact dating, of course she didn't, and then he started sobbing hysterically. when asked for any proof that they were "dating" avilo had nothing. apparently all maria did was tweet "<3" and also in chat

i guess similar thing is happening now with atira or whatever, dude is delusional. avilo is cool because he is the troll train wreck that is fun to laugh at and cheer against, but its one thing to accuse everyoen who beats you of map hacking and stream sniping, its another to think these women love you and then talk about them non stop and harass them and then claim innocence.

i mean this girl called the cops on this guy? this is the sort of creepy ass behavior that can lead to bad things happening in real life, he should go to jail if he crosses any lines



You make some valid points, however if you think even for a remote second that Avilo doesn't get sniped for the vast majority of his games you are delusional.

Yes, he throws wood on the fire just like any other streamer who accuses people of stream cheating or map hacking, it doesn't change the fact that it does happen and if the game developers of SC2 acted anything like any other gaming company on twitch action would be taken and you would soon realize that he isn't just making accusation about stream cheating or map hacking.
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 19:58:46
March 19 2019 19:58 GMT
#746
On March 20 2019 03:11 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 02:57 fishjie wrote:
i linked a reddit thread about maria in the previous page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/6ql2rv/avilo_goes_through_a_complete_breakdown_on_stream/

he was avilo's "girlfriend" and people were clowning him because she was in europe and they had never met and he got upset and demanded she come online and state that they were in fact dating, of course she didn't, and then he started sobbing hysterically. when asked for any proof that they were "dating" avilo had nothing. apparently all maria did was tweet "<3" and also in chat

i guess similar thing is happening now with atira or whatever, dude is delusional. avilo is cool because he is the troll train wreck that is fun to laugh at and cheer against, but its one thing to accuse everyoen who beats you of map hacking and stream sniping, its another to think these women love you and then talk about them non stop and harass them and then claim innocence.

i mean this girl called the cops on this guy? this is the sort of creepy ass behavior that can lead to bad things happening in real life, he should go to jail if he crosses any lines



You make some valid points, however if you think even for a remote second that Avilo doesn't get sniped for the vast majority of his games you are delusional.

Yes, he throws wood on the fire just like any other streamer who accuses people of stream cheating or map hacking, it doesn't change the fact that it does happen and if the game developers of SC2 acted anything like any other gaming company on twitch action would be taken and you would soon realize that he isn't just making accusation about stream cheating or map hacking.

getting sniped by trolls on battlenet because you never took any measures to avoid it for 9 years doens't mean you can harass females over the internet. avilo is not a victim.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
uiotui
Profile Joined February 2010
United States54 Posts
March 19 2019 21:01 GMT
#747
atira and avilo are both victims in the ongoing drama of the e-sport -uh- world of 'don't talk during games guys'
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 19 2019 23:36 GMT
#748
On March 20 2019 03:11 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 02:57 fishjie wrote:
i linked a reddit thread about maria in the previous page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/6ql2rv/avilo_goes_through_a_complete_breakdown_on_stream/

he was avilo's "girlfriend" and people were clowning him because she was in europe and they had never met and he got upset and demanded she come online and state that they were in fact dating, of course she didn't, and then he started sobbing hysterically. when asked for any proof that they were "dating" avilo had nothing. apparently all maria did was tweet "<3" and also in chat

i guess similar thing is happening now with atira or whatever, dude is delusional. avilo is cool because he is the troll train wreck that is fun to laugh at and cheer against, but its one thing to accuse everyoen who beats you of map hacking and stream sniping, its another to think these women love you and then talk about them non stop and harass them and then claim innocence.

i mean this girl called the cops on this guy? this is the sort of creepy ass behavior that can lead to bad things happening in real life, he should go to jail if he crosses any lines



You make some valid points, however if you think even for a remote second that Avilo doesn't get sniped for the vast majority of his games you are delusional.

Yes, he throws wood on the fire just like any other streamer who accuses people of stream cheating or map hacking, it doesn't change the fact that it does happen and if the game developers of SC2 acted anything like any other gaming company on twitch action would be taken and you would soon realize that he isn't just making accusation about stream cheating or map hacking.


avilo accuses everyone of hacking stream sniping as soon as he loses. a clock is right twice per day, irrelevant. point is, guy is delusional. avilo now pretending that he and atira are cool is also that - delusional. avilo pretending he had a girlfriend named maria is also that, delusional. the rage and sniping accusations when he lost was funny and entertaining, and so are watching videos of people stomping avilo, but him harassing women? grossssss

found this youtube video of avilo harassing atira

just really pathetic. but in avilo's mind, she is still cool with him. yeah ok no


blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
March 20 2019 01:34 GMT
#749
It was already shut down, but I'll tell people to stuff it with trying to make him the victim again anyway. Fuck off with all of that garbage.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
uiotui
Profile Joined February 2010
United States54 Posts
March 20 2019 01:38 GMT
#750
rename thread to avilo/atira fan club imo
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States493 Posts
March 20 2019 03:43 GMT
#751
On March 20 2019 06:01 uiotui wrote:
atira and avilo are both victims in the ongoing drama of the e-sport -uh- world of 'don't talk during games guys'



Yeah it's getting totally ridiculous that people can't seem to figure out that they're just throwing wood on the fire, and these two are benefiting immensely from it.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10365 Posts
March 20 2019 04:35 GMT
#752
On March 20 2019 12:43 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 06:01 uiotui wrote:
atira and avilo are both victims in the ongoing drama of the e-sport -uh- world of 'don't talk during games guys'



Yeah it's getting totally ridiculous that people can't seem to figure out that they're just throwing wood on the fire, and these two are benefiting immensely from it.

I think that's exactly why they do it.
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bretfart
Profile Joined July 2012
114 Posts
March 20 2019 05:06 GMT
#753
On March 20 2019 13:35 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2019 12:43 ProTech wrote:
On March 20 2019 06:01 uiotui wrote:
atira and avilo are both victims in the ongoing drama of the e-sport -uh- world of 'don't talk during games guys'



Yeah it's getting totally ridiculous that people can't seem to figure out that they're just throwing wood on the fire, and these two are benefiting immensely from it.

I think that's exactly why they do it.


No, it's not. how old are you guys? 15? If you have one active brain cell it should be obvious to you that atira is suffering immensly from this shit... She has two kids. Do you really believe she would let a 31yo unemployed, ruthless, aggressiv momma's boy without any social skills even near her and her kids? A guy who's lost any connection to the real life? A (31yo!!!!) guy who always streams with his door open so his parents can check on him ? (Which they do regularly)

Enough of this defending avilo! He doesnt give a f*** about other human beings. He is abusive and manipulativ. Two days ago he was harassing atira online....again... for hours.. This GIRL HAS TWO KIDS, for god's sake! She called the cops on him! She blocked him everywhere, yet he cant let go!!! And he just cant do all of that in private. NO! He has to put it all online ... Thats what a teenager would do, but not a 31yo adult! It's disgusting (btw: I am 35!)

And one more thing to his starcraft skills / accusations of sniping / cheating: This has guy has been playing sc2 fulltime (!!!!!!) for 8 years and he is stuck at around 5k mmr.... Let ... that.... sink ..... in!!!! If I had spend so much time on sc2 I would be GM for sure (at least on NA, which is relatively easy to do). 8 years of fulltime Sc2. 5k mmr..... Do I have to say more?
Balosaar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States35 Posts
March 20 2019 06:55 GMT
#754
Maryland is one of eleven US states that have two-party, or all-party call recording laws. It's against the law to record someone without their permission.

Maryland. Summary of statute(s): Under Maryland's Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance Act, it is unlawful to tape record a conversation without the permission of all the parties. Additionally, recording with criminal or tortuous purpose is illegal, regardless of consent.
[yes he lives in Maryland, he has stated on stream several times, for example when he talked about driving to Cheeseadelphia]

Interesting how Avilo admitted on stream to having recorded like every voice conversation he has ever had with Atira, and then he plays some audio on stream.

Showing private messages that can be considered sensitive in nature without any provocation is quite disturbing. What exactly has she done? Banned Avilo from her twitch chat and blocked him on every platform?

No means no. When a girl wants nothing to do with you, you do not have a temper tantrum live on twitch... "Playing Starcraft"... I don't care what chat logs Avilo has, this behavior is unacceptable.


Imagine if some person who is newly interested in Starcraft decides to watch some twitch stream... And the person with the 2nd highest viewers, (was like 600 at one point), is busy harassing some female streamer who normally gets like 20 viewers. Like are we fucking serious right now?

I get that people hate Avilo and his drama... And they don't want to talk about it... But come on dude... He was banned from twitch for a week a month ago for slightly less than this... The same person, no repentance.
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RecklessCraft
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada27 Posts
March 20 2019 07:38 GMT
#755
On March 20 2019 15:55 Balosaar wrote:
Imagine if some person who is newly interested in Starcraft decides to watch some twitch stream... And the person with the 2nd highest viewers, (was like 600 at one point), is busy harassing some female streamer who normally gets like 20 viewers. Like are we fucking serious right now?

Depends on the person, the actual stream didn't constitute harassment imo and was just entertaining watching someone break down live, separate from worrying about his mental fortitude. Definitely stream content that'll hold viewers not everyone is born into this world with a serious face, some people truly don't give a fuck and just soak up the entertainment value.

Also from what it seems, the behind the scenes interaction seems pretty sketch for that poor girl lmao though her claiming to be scared for her safety or something seems a bit of a stretch and she needs to zip back to reality for a sec and just strongly drop the law on him instead of saying "I love you" or whatever here and there, seems super weird.

Someone needs to council Avilo on male-female interactions, normally being yourself is the best advice but for him I think that could be the crux of the issue XD. Doubt he'll seek professional help but who knows maybe he will, but I also doubt a professional could aid in this area because they generally don't help anything other than how to deal with daily life and work and shit that won't get you laid. He should just message someone he knows in private that has femaled a female or two and see if they'd help.
RaccyG
Profile Joined May 2017
14 Posts
March 20 2019 12:24 GMT
#756
I can see why people are annoyed or disturbed by the constant drama, especially if it takes serious forms and involves real-life concerns or harrassment. And I know there are many people who dislike avilo's streaming persona and consider it good news if he is beaten in a game or banned from some platform. You could argue that he deserves it on some grounds and taking a break from the whole thing may even turn out to be a good thing for him. Some also say it's good for the game if the 'toxic person' is gone. As a fan of SC2 I actually think it helps the game/scene/community quite a bit if there are controversial or even antagonistic people around. That's just more interesting and spices things up, like the Nation Wars drama did when people voted for avilo to play. Idra filled that role, too. I don't know if he put on a show for the audience or if he just authentically wanted to be a bit of a ... person towards pretty much everybody but it sure fueled the viewers' interest and caught their attention.

But at an individual level, can we please all remember that avilo is just a person who has feelings? I'm just asking for some civility. Everybody has their shortcomings and insecurities; it doesn't help if you make some of yours public and then feel cornered by everybody. Even if it is fully or partly your own fault for making it so, it's still a tough spot to be in. Image being in his position: Getting a ton of hateful messages from complete strangers, having parts of your private life laid open on twitch of all places (where you would even get ridiculed if you had just cured cancer), being banned from various platforms, feeling like all the fingers in your community are pointing at you. That must sting pretty hard. And everybody in that kind of position naturally feels vulnerable and maybe lashes out all around them. People in that situation should be treated with *more* care instead of less.

And you don't have to become a fan of his to not be a bully. People should have compassion both ways. Of course it's crossing a major line if there's serious real-life stuff involved as with stalking, illegal recording, and threats. That is not a joke and must be taken seriously. It's just also not a joke when you have some several hundred hostile people spam insults and accusations at you every day who publicly share and discuss video footage of your personal low points. Isn't that a kind of harrassment, too? I sure wouldn't particularly enjoy that happen to me. Who knows what kind of stupid shit I might end up saying or doing, especially if I feel like the whole community is watching my every move and has this or that expecation of me. Now, I don't know what his personal situation is really like and I don't want to assume because it's none of our business! But just imagine going through all that IF you already struggle in other walks of life on top of it all. Must be really hard to keep your cool then. I just hope avilo can catch himself. Maybe shrug off the haters (there's always those) and remember that he has a ton of fans and supporters. And I hope he does not feel pressure from the community to do one thing or another so that he does not make any (more?) mistakes that could end up badly hurting him or other people. I definitely think the community shouldn't make it harder for him than it has to be.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
March 20 2019 15:55 GMT
#757
the people who mess with him so they can see him break down and go crazy on stream are worse than he is imo

but that's like saying bone cancer is worse than lung cancer
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AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
March 20 2019 16:02 GMT
#758
On March 20 2019 21:24 RaccyG wrote:
I can see why people are annoyed or disturbed by the constant drama, especially if it takes serious forms and involves real-life concerns or harrassment. And I know there are many people who dislike avilo's streaming persona and consider it good news if he is beaten in a game or banned from some platform. You could argue that he deserves it on some grounds and taking a break from the whole thing may even turn out to be a good thing for him. Some also say it's good for the game if the 'toxic person' is gone. As a fan of SC2 I actually think it helps the game/scene/community quite a bit if there are controversial or even antagonistic people around. That's just more interesting and spices things up, like the Nation Wars drama did when people voted for avilo to play. Idra filled that role, too. I don't know if he put on a show for the audience or if he just authentically wanted to be a bit of a ... person towards pretty much everybody but it sure fueled the viewers' interest and caught their attention.

But at an individual level, can we please all remember that avilo is just a person who has feelings? I'm just asking for some civility. Everybody has their shortcomings and insecurities; it doesn't help if you make some of yours public and then feel cornered by everybody. Even if it is fully or partly your own fault for making it so, it's still a tough spot to be in. Image being in his position: Getting a ton of hateful messages from complete strangers, having parts of your private life laid open on twitch of all places (where you would even get ridiculed if you had just cured cancer), being banned from various platforms, feeling like all the fingers in your community are pointing at you. That must sting pretty hard. And everybody in that kind of position naturally feels vulnerable and maybe lashes out all around them. People in that situation should be treated with *more* care instead of less.

And you don't have to become a fan of his to not be a bully. People should have compassion both ways. Of course it's crossing a major line if there's serious real-life stuff involved as with stalking, illegal recording, and threats. That is not a joke and must be taken seriously. It's just also not a joke when you have some several hundred hostile people spam insults and accusations at you every day who publicly share and discuss video footage of your personal low points. Isn't that a kind of harrassment, too? I sure wouldn't particularly enjoy that happen to me. Who knows what kind of stupid shit I might end up saying or doing, especially if I feel like the whole community is watching my every move and has this or that expecation of me. Now, I don't know what his personal situation is really like and I don't want to assume because it's none of our business! But just imagine going through all that IF you already struggle in other walks of life on top of it all. Must be really hard to keep your cool then. I just hope avilo can catch himself. Maybe shrug off the haters (there's always those) and remember that he has a ton of fans and supporters. And I hope he does not feel pressure from the community to do one thing or another so that he does not make any (more?) mistakes that could end up badly hurting him or other people. I definitely think the community shouldn't make it harder for him than it has to be.

Avilo has definitely wound up in a vicious cycle where his actions bring more and more hate which in turn makes him behave even worse. At this point the only way out for him is to let it all go, walk away and begin again with something else in life. Which might be possible with help from those who truly know him.

The only other constructive intervention actually possible would be that Twitch ban him once and for all - that may sound like punishment, but continuing streaming really only puts Avilo deeper and deeper in the shit. This has to be obvious for anyone who's been following him over the past few years.

Regardless of outer influence and stress from constant troll attacks etc., he actually is committing serious acts of harassment which will only make things worse for himself. During his last stream he even played private voice mail from Atira and screen captured vid from his Discord conversations with her, live in front of hundreds of viewers. No matter how sorry we should be feeling for him, that shit will still be completely unacceptable, and continues to hurt other people.

He needs to first of all get off Twitch, and leave his position as a public person within the gaming community. Then he can address reconstructing his life. Currently there's just too much inertia from his past years as a "controversial" person, I don't see him overcoming that in any other way.

He's certainly not the only one who bears blame in this situation becoming what it is. But as long as he himself doesn't acknowledge the mistakes he actually has made, and forgives himself as well as asks the forgiveness of those he's damaged, he will never break free from this endless cycle of paranoia and self-centredness. Us having pity on him will do part of the job. But the main effort will have to come from himself.
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Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-20 17:10:49
March 20 2019 16:05 GMT
#759
On March 21 2019 00:55 DeepElemBlues wrote:
the people who mess with him so they can see him break down and go crazy on stream are worse than he is imo

but that's like saying bone cancer is worse than lung cancer


Agree. Some people say "His stream is great and he is entertaining, but the harassing stuff is too much..."

In first place, I don't know how the fuck can anyone see his stream as something funny or entertaining... Having said that, he is not a victim of anything but himself, he has been asking for it for years and he deserves whatever happens to him. It's a pity that those mentally 13yo you mentioned don't receive their punishment too.
bretfart
Profile Joined July 2012
114 Posts
March 20 2019 16:20 GMT
#760
Twitch has to ban him for life... That way he might find a way back into society. With a proper job. A place of his own. Maybe even a gf some day (assuming he will be able to develop the social skills required).
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