On September 29 2011 21:44 saritenite wrote: Dark Swarm + Cracklings. You dishonour him by not killing him, its all he wanted - to die a glorious death in battle.
I cheat like a bastard anyway. Blacksheepwall somethingfornothing <3
The last zerg mission in original SC was still somehow one of the most epic experiences i've ever had in gaming though. Even though I could see everything and it wasn't technically challenging, the whole mood and feel of it all was amazing.
On September 28 2011 13:45 aZealot wrote: That's not a valid comparison based on my understanding of SC2 lore. Zealots now return as Immortals while Dark Templar return as Stalkers. Immortals are cool, IMO, although a little uni-dimensional and situational, but I think a Zealot would not mind returning as an Immortal, at all.
It's not dead Protoss that get put in Dragoons/Immortals or Stalkers, it's crippled Protoss. [/lore geek]
Dragoons are simply Protoss wheelchairs .
Oh? But why are they called Immortals then? Wouldn't that imply that they overcame their mortal death, in order to become even more powerful? Also, "I return to serve" seems like something they'd say if they were ressurected.
Did they return to serve from the protoss hospital? :O
ALSO, GOOD SIR, In the SC1 campaign Fenix died straight up as far as I can recall, but they ressurected him through means of dragoon-ing.
don't take what I say too seriously in this case please ^^
You're quite correct about Fenix, good sir. The game does tell us he was killed in battle before we leave Aiur. However, this contradicts our other sources, so the most reasonable assumption is either this was changed somewhere along StarCraft's development, or that we were intended to believe that Fenix was dead, whereas he was simply mortally wounded. After all, Tassadar expresses surprise at seeing Fenix again because he was believed dead. If Dragoons were resurrected Templar, then surely as an Executor Tassadar wouldn't be too surprised.
Praetor Fenix was a such a badass. He was the ultimate Zealot and then became the ultimate Dragoon. I for one was pretty happy to see him return at the end of SC1 and believe that accounts of his death (to Hydras) were exaggerated. I do have to say though, that I found the BW mission where you have to kill him incredibly difficult. I got close to the end and then entered cheat codes to skip the level and go to the next one - I just could not make myself kill the old Protoss warrior.
Dark Swarm + Cracklings. You dishonour him by not killing him, its all he wanted - to die a glorious death in battle.
Don't worry, I did it the second time around. But I didn't use all that Dark Swarm crap - just sent wave after wave of Lings and Hydras and Ultras (IIRC) at him until he died. Figured, if he went, that would be the way he wanted to go - up front and personal with the enemy. I still hated doing it though.
Fenix was the ultimate Protoss warrior.
Edit/ That's also one reason I found Raynor's behaviour in WoL hard to understand. After all, what happened to his vow to kill Kerrigan for her betrayal of Fenix? I still don't really understand Blizzard's apparent retcon of the BW storyline.
I wouldn't read too much into MLG results, GSL-caliber players always take Top 2 at least; MC and Hero are simply better than most of the competition, other than their fellow Koreans.
On September 28 2011 13:45 aZealot wrote: That's not a valid comparison based on my understanding of SC2 lore. Zealots now return as Immortals while Dark Templar return as Stalkers. Immortals are cool, IMO, although a little uni-dimensional and situational, but I think a Zealot would not mind returning as an Immortal, at all.
It's not dead Protoss that get put in Dragoons/Immortals or Stalkers, it's crippled Protoss. [/lore geek]
Dragoons are simply Protoss wheelchairs .
Oh? But why are they called Immortals then? Wouldn't that imply that they overcame their mortal death, in order to become even more powerful? Also, "I return to serve" seems like something they'd say if they were ressurected.
Did they return to serve from the protoss hospital? :O
ALSO, GOOD SIR, In the SC1 campaign Fenix died straight up as far as I can recall, but they ressurected him through means of dragoon-ing.
don't take what I say too seriously in this case please ^^
You're quite correct about Fenix, good sir. The game does tell us he was killed in battle before we leave Aiur. However, this contradicts our other sources, so the most reasonable assumption is either this was changed somewhere along StarCraft's development, or that we were intended to believe that Fenix was dead, whereas he was simply mortally wounded. After all, Tassadar expresses surprise at seeing Fenix again because he was believed dead. If Dragoons were resurrected Templar, then surely as an Executor Tassadar wouldn't be too surprised.
Praetor Fenix was a such a badass. He was the ultimate Zealot and then became the ultimate Dragoon. I for one was pretty happy to see him return at the end of SC1 and believe that accounts of his death (to Hydras) were exaggerated. I do have to say though, that I found the BW mission where you have to kill him incredibly difficult. I got close to the end and then entered cheat codes to skip the level and go to the next one - I just could not make myself kill the old Protoss warrior.
Dark Swarm + Cracklings. You dishonour him by not killing him, its all he wanted - to die a glorious death in battle.
I'm pretty sure he'd rather live. The Templar are sworn to protect Aiur above all else, and corpses cannot serve Aiur .
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