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On April 23 2013 17:50 rEalGuapo wrote: Because he sells out his teammate's humiliation to get viewers.
No he didn't. All he did was to snipe Idra.
Idra added the "humiliation"-part himself.
And also, this part:
On April 23 2013 17:50 rEalGuapo wrote: And yes, yes I know IdrA called demuslim names and what not... That is IdrA if you don't like it, ignore it. But what Demuslim did yesterday was far worse in my eyes.
is one of the dumbest things I've read on this site (which says a lot). I like Idra in general, but he's the most famous BM player in the community (and in the entire history of the community). Saying that you should just ignore all the crap he does if you don't like it while you condemn Demuslim, who is known as a very mannered player, for sniping his teammate once as a joke doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
What Demuslim did was completely and utterly harmless, and it's honestly not his problem if people can't handle it.
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Lol all u guys got totally played by your own thirst for drama.
They were probably laughing about it as soon as the streams ended.
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On April 24 2013 01:16 Jockmcplop wrote: Lol all u guys got totally played by your own thirst for drama.
They were probably laughing about it as soon as the streams ended.
Yes I agree. What was the outcome? Huge viewership and a bunch of fans for Demu.
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Seriously, for all we know with how well these players get along, this is blown way too out of proportion. Some of you need to lighten up and learn to take a small joke. As far as i know from watching Demu's stream almost daily, IdrA regularly leaves games when he queues against Demuslim because he is frustrated by the ZvT matchup and usually loses. While others would take that as an opportunity to practice with a teammate and great Terran player, thats not IdrA's style.
On Topic Demuslim has been playing amazing lately and if he hadnt lost the force of hellions and reapers in game 3 vs Revival, I think he could have taken the game.
He doesnt seem to be using harassment drops as much as he used to though. I wonder if this is just a side effect of the current playstyle he is using, or maybe he doesnt feel like he has been very successful with them lately. Hopefully we'll see more in the future because drops + Devil Terran control = WIN
DeMusliM Fighting!
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On April 24 2013 01:16 Jockmcplop wrote: Lol all u guys got totally played by your own thirst for drama.
They were probably laughing about it as soon as the streams ended. You are right,these kind of things happen often within teams.People like to mess about.
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On April 22 2013 05:50 Jknighty wrote: Don't play too greedy Demuslim and you got this, those Korean zergs are stone cold killers, will all in you any way possible if you give them half a chance. Get to 3 base and micro them to death.
Just watched his 2 losses against Revival... if only he'd got out of dodge with those reapers and hellions a little quicker in game 3 he'd have been fine. Had already done loads of damage. Very well played in the tournament though, absolutely stomped JD game 1 and a nice little cheese game 2. Shame game of his games vs Revival doesn't seem to be anywhere.
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On April 23 2013 20:38 kswid wrote: Jesus you act like bunch of teenagers from middle schoolf feasting on drama that your friend talked to a girl. What next, you gonna do pillow fight? First of all, stop acting like you know Idra. All you know is how he acts when streaming / playing for public. Girls like you like dramas so he is just taking that advantage, why not say fuck game imba few times if it gives you viewers?
That said, Idra has never been ninja about his manners. He says what he thinks under any circumstances. Be it public interview during tournamet, stream, or whatever. He is honest person, a little dick'ish but still. Demuslim on the other hand is all strong gangsta swag when he is streaming 100km away from people he talks about. He acts as sissy boy, i want to see him talkin about Idra when he is next to him. Thats how girls act, gossiping, never saying stuff into face.
Another thing, Idra is ultra cool in real life. You think incontrol would take him as a bestman at his wedding if he was all dick to others? Would Anna hang out with him? No. But he is good person, so they do hangout a lot.
Also plugging Stephano's connection when he was streaming, because Steph called him fag in french for the lulz. Given that they are friends for a long time, i can't even imagine being such a sensitive douche, not to mention ruining stream for viewers. I can't find any other name to label him than gay. It's really gay. Is he a dude or a sissy girl? I thought that good friends call each other dicks, pranks etc. On normal basis. I can't remember when did any of my friends backstabb me because i've called them a dick. Moreover, it's pretty normal for friends to go stuff like "you are going down sucker" "you gay" when playing for fun some internet game. I just can't understand such a behaviour from demuslim as plugging Stephano for calling him gay for lulz. Thats really gayish.
And lastly, stream sniping. He is a pro player, and yet does that to other player? Teammate even? It's just disgusting. I would be disgusted if idra or stephano did same to anyone else, and i would lose all respect to them. But only demuslim fangirls and fanboys still defends him after such action, defend? Ba, are proud of stream sniping. Just disgusting, no other word can fit this. I don't imagine stephano or idra stream sniping even someone they hate. And for what? For more viewers? And demuslim was proud of doing it? "if i hit 10k viewers i stream snipe idra!". Jesus christ if i met him in rl life, i would be first person to teach him some manners and pride.
But go, only demuslim fanboys are so blind to actually cheer for someone whos stream cheating.
User was banned for this post. Loving the tears of mad idra fans, keep it up please.
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are you guys serious ? ARE YOU GUYS FREAKING SERIOUS ? demuslim ? IdrA's teammate ? you are bashing and going out against him like that while players like Byun and Fuzer snipe and humiliate idra CONSTANTLY every time every day he streams ?
went to byuns fanclub and didnt saw any one of you guard and and protect him while he was being massively bullied by byun, why the hell is that ? look at the comments: On April 22 2013 07:32 opterown wrote: also a lot of wasted time for byun against idra heh but it's funny and makes him money haha
On April 19 2013 05:38 Canucklehead wrote:Byun is the best! <3 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JhKUhCR.jpg)
On April 20 2013 22:23 Cattlecruiser wrote: Loved the ezidra :D. Hope you stream some more NA soul crushing matches. EG are all EZ. gogo byun!
On April 21 2013 11:11 Gosi wrote: Golden stream. I like the contrast between when he grinds games against Demuslim over and over while the games seems to get better for each time they play each other, and then you have when he gets matched up against IdrA a couple of times and he makes IdrA quit playing because he is tilting him so hard.
Fun times.
On April 21 2013 17:54 duckmaster wrote: EZIdrA :DDDD reddit threads were everyone make fun of idra: www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crzy2/byun_prime_is_hilarious/ http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cky9g/byun_prime_idra_chobo_ezidra/ http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cp7ub/egidra_to_byunprime_who_recently_allkilled_azubu/
byun and fuzer made a joke out of idra and you make such a mess because demuslim made an harmless joke once ? its not like demu constantly sniped him untill idra quit from streaming like byun did a few days ago.
i am a big idrA fan myself but i stopped entering his fanclub because of things like this, why you guys have to take all your frustration on demuslim just because of such a small prank, and not on byun for harassing him constantly ?
ffs this is demuslims fanclub, dont bring all your frustrations and problems regarding idra over here, discuss this all you want over at idras fanclub.
sorry for the wall of text (also typos and grammar errors if there are any), had to get this out of my system
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You have obviously only gotten half the story correct in regards to Byun vs Idra, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
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On April 24 2013 06:55 Longtimer wrote: You have obviously only gotten half the story correct in regards to Byun vs Idra, but hey, whatever floats your boat. plz corrent me if i am wrong. all i knew is that byun had like 800 viewers on his stream and then he crossed with idra a few times on ladder and idra BM'd him, then byuns viewer number doubled and byun started to snipe him to get more viewers and make fun of him example: http://i.imgur.com/SNAhitN.jpg byun was like 11 win 1 loss and idra evantually stopped streaming because he faced him all the time.
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Lots of players stream snipe idra. Dragon does it, byun does it. Demu did it once, as a little lets have fun stream thing. Idra is just being idra. You have to realize these guys are really just kids trying to make esports into a grown mans game. So this heated stuff within team is really not that important at the end of the day they are going to both be on EG because they are both talented players. Idra just says his mind more often. Sucks that inside the game had to be cancelled...
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On April 24 2013 06:45 damod wrote:are you guys serious ? ARE YOU GUYS FREAKING SERIOUS ? demuslim ? IdrA's teammate ? you are bashing and going out against him like that while players like Byun and Fuzer snipe and humiliate idra CONSTANTLY every time every day he streams ? went to byuns fanclub and didnt saw any one of you guard and and protect him while he was being massively bullied by byun, why the hell is that ? look at the comments: Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 07:32 opterown wrote: also a lot of wasted time for byun against idra heh but it's funny and makes him money haha Show nested quote +On April 20 2013 22:23 Cattlecruiser wrote: Loved the ezidra :D. Hope you stream some more NA soul crushing matches. EG are all EZ. gogo byun! Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:11 Gosi wrote: Golden stream. I like the contrast between when he grinds games against Demuslim over and over while the games seems to get better for each time they play each other, and then you have when he gets matched up against IdrA a couple of times and he makes IdrA quit playing because he is tilting him so hard.
Fun times. reddit threads were everyone make fun of idra: www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1crzy2/byun_prime_is_hilarious/http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cky9g/byun_prime_idra_chobo_ezidra/http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1cp7ub/egidra_to_byunprime_who_recently_allkilled_azubu/byun and fuzer made a joke out of idra and you make such a mess because demuslim made an harmless joke once ? its not like demu constantly sniped him untill idra quit from streaming like byun did a few days ago. i am a big idrA fan myself but i stopped entering his fanclub because of things like this, why you guys have to take all your frustration on demuslim just because of such a small prank, and not on byun for harassing him constantly ? ffs this is demuslims fanclub, dont bring all your frustrations and problems regarding idra over here, discuss this all you want over at idras fanclub. sorry for the wall of text (also typos and grammar errors if there are any), had to get this out of my system
Yeh guys, bullying is ok when you do it in groups, remember? *sarcasm*
On a serious note, being a British zerg, i have a soft spot for both, hopefully they can sort it out, cant see them playing each other in training but, sort it out to live together in the EG house in SF if that is where is it opening.
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On April 24 2013 07:02 damod wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 06:55 Longtimer wrote: You have obviously only gotten half the story correct in regards to Byun vs Idra, but hey, whatever floats your boat. plz corrent me if i am wrong. all i knew is that byun had like 800 viewers on his stream and then he crossed with idra a few times on ladder and idra BM'd him, then byuns viewer number doubled and byun started to snipe him to get more viewers and make fun of him example: http://i.imgur.com/SNAhitN.jpgbyun was like 11 win 1 loss and idra evantually stopped streaming because he faced him all the time. Do you really think Byun would have done that if Idra acted normal towards him? Before Byun started his project EZidra, Idra was calling Byun and the rest of the Prime-guys (Idra didn't have the best encounters with MKP during the beta neither...) for gay, crap, shit, losers, dicks and what not.
Byun must be allowed to fuck back then, even if he's a korean and Idra is Idra. Yes, so he humiliated Idra, so what? It's not optimal in any way, but you can't say Idra didn't ask for it.
It's a suckish world when people tries to stand up for themselves.
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On April 24 2013 07:12 Longtimer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2013 07:02 damod wrote:On April 24 2013 06:55 Longtimer wrote: You have obviously only gotten half the story correct in regards to Byun vs Idra, but hey, whatever floats your boat. plz corrent me if i am wrong. all i knew is that byun had like 800 viewers on his stream and then he crossed with idra a few times on ladder and idra BM'd him, then byuns viewer number doubled and byun started to snipe him to get more viewers and make fun of him example: http://i.imgur.com/SNAhitN.jpgbyun was like 11 win 1 loss and idra evantually stopped streaming because he faced him all the time. Do you really think Byun would have done that if Idra acted normal towards him? Before Byun started his project EZidra, Idra was calling Byun and the rest of the Prime-guys (Idra didn't have the best encounters with MKP during the beta neither...) for gay, crap, shit, losers, dicks and what not. Byun must be allowed to fuck back then, even if he's a korean and Idra is Idra. Yes, so he humiliated Idra, so what? It's not optimal in any way, but you can't say Idra didn't ask for it. It's a suckish world when people tries to stand up for themselves. i completly agree with that, idra deserved it and i guess the other half i missed from the story is that he asked for it really hard, but comparing byuns way of punishing idra for his BM, to demuslim stream sniping him once, byun was alot more brutal and hard then demu and demu got alot more shit than byun on his own fanclub
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Yeah, I agree, mate
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my favorite Terran player outside korea sign me up!
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Not sure what my post in the ByuN thread had to do with any of this and why quote it.
Anyway, DeMusliM stream super enjoyable as usual tonight!
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On April 24 2013 07:36 Gosi wrote: Not sure what my post in the ByuN thread had to do with any of this and why quote it.
Anyway, DeMusliM stream super enjoyable as usual tonight!
On April 21 2013 11:11 Gosi wrote: Golden stream. I like the contrast between when he grinds games against Demuslim over and over while the games seems to get better for each time they play each other, and then you have when he gets matched up against IdrA a couple of times and he makes IdrA quit playing because he is tilting him so hard. was just a base for my claim that idra was being tilted by byun to the level of quiting and stopping the stream and that no one went there to say anything bad about byun doing it like its being done to demuslim right now...
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Well, that post was made before the whole thing went a bit too far for my taste (the whole EZIdrA and sniping thing for getting back at IdrA shit talking him and Prime). This was when they played over and over because they were so high ranked and ByuN just destroyed him with good macro games mixed in with some typical early aggression you see from KR Terrans.
It was just amusing to see the different mindsets between Demu and IdrA regarding practicing with ByuN and how they put the experience into use for improvement.
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On April 23 2013 20:56 kswid wrote: Just once? That's your answer? Lol. Pathetic. I would lose all respect for my favourite streamers if they did that shit. But as i said, demu fanboys are weird.
If he has such serious problems with Idra then he should talk the problem face in face, take action as a man does. Not fucking stream cheating if he gets 10k viewers, wtf is this.
Stream sniping and stream cheating are two very different things rofl.
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