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zedrOne
France471 Posts
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moofang
508 Posts
On July 20 2012 09:53 Stanlot wrote: Hope everyone saw this amazing cheerful from today http://i.imgur.com/YVdOB.jpg I didn't get a good look, thanks for the screeny. Such bossness. | ||
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killy666
France204 Posts
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
On July 20 2012 20:34 zedrOne wrote: 1 line about stephano all the rest about MC...i talk about stephano.... stop being blind. You're French, half of your posts are in Stephano's fanclub or threads you can talk about Stephano, and the entire point of your post was so you could bring up how his style doesn't work against some people like Stephano. You people are becoming the new rabid IdrA fanboys/Swedish fans of Naniwa that have to bring them up literally any occasion that presents itself. His macro play was strong enough to have beaten Stephano several times including 2 of his 3 wins at Red Bull Lan, wipe the floor with Ret at HSC and NASL, and he went for macro games in his first two games versus DRG. | ||
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zedrOne
France471 Posts
I understand that his macro play is not bad, but nobody can say that MC is know for is macro play... it's like saying Idra is know for his cheese... but if you want to resume all I say to attack me let it be... | ||
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kheldorin
Singapore539 Posts
On July 20 2012 22:20 zedrOne wrote: my post was a response to a post saying that MC as strong macro play and that let him go far using it in foreign tournament.... I understand that his macro play is not bad, but nobody can say that MC is know for is macro play... it's like saying Idra is know for his cheese... but if you want to resume all I say to attack me let it be... just because he is more well known for his timing attack doesn't mean his macro play isn't. stop being pedantic and twist other people's words. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On July 20 2012 22:20 zedrOne wrote: my post was a response to a post saying that MC as strong macro play and that let him go far using it in foreign tournament.... I understand that his macro play is not bad, but nobody can say that MC is know for is macro play... it's like saying Idra is know for his cheese... but if you want to resume all I say to attack me let it be... He's known for being the best Protoss in the world. That includes macro play. I'm not bothered about people talking about Stephano sometimes. It's just that every single fucking thread now has some comparison between him and other players. Why would you feel the need to put: "but against some player, it simply didn't work as well. stephano is one of them. Stephano himself was more concern about playing Hero than playing MC, because Hero play is better against his" in his fan club?! It's just asking for trouble. | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 20 2012 22:48 Stanlot wrote: It's so odd that MC has come so far and has even been named the protoss player with the widest repertoire of builds and strategies yet people still discount his phenomenal macro style. It's not the best and he doesn't always opt for macro oriented games but it irks me whenever people are surprised that he has great macro play when he's been showing that he's fully capable of it as early as his time playing in TSL3. Reputations sadly follow players around, whether those reputations are true or not. Many people still think Tassadar and TheBest are some shit players who only know how to cheese, even though they've both improved a lot and are perfectly capable of playing a strong macro game. | ||
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zedrOne
France471 Posts
He's known for being the best Protoss in the world Here, in his FC yes, and I think the same, for me MC is the best protoss, but squirtle / puzzle and other name go up there depending on wich part of TL your are in. I dont say is macro play is bad, I say he is more famous for his timing. ask to 10 pro player what they think about MC play, you will get 10 answer about timing, none about macroplay. (that's doenst mean is macro is bad... that mean he is know for is timing...) | ||
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
On July 20 2012 23:04 zedrOne wrote: Here, in his FC yes, and I think the same, for me MC is the best protoss, but squirtle / puzzle and other name go up there depending on wich part of TL your are in. I dont say is macro play is bad, I say he is more famous for his timing. ask to 10 pro player what they think about MC play, you will get 10 answer about timing, none about macroplay. (that's doenst mean is macro is bad... that mean he is know for is timing...) If you cant keep up with MCs development these last months, you should really keep out of this thread. MC has become the scariest player in the scene because his macro play has become extremely good, and people know this. If you wanna talk about stephano, please do it somewhere else. No offense, but No one here wants to hear it. | ||
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Kpaxlol
813 Posts
On July 20 2012 23:04 zedrOne wrote: Here, in his FC yes, and I think the same, for me MC is the best protoss, but squirtle / puzzle and other name go up there depending on wich part of TL your are in. I dont say is macro play is bad, I say he is more famous for his timing. ask to 10 pro player what they think about MC play, you will get 10 answer about timing, none about macroplay. (that's doenst mean is macro is bad... that mean he is know for is timing...) He may not necessarily have the best macro of all protosses, but his unit control is top notch. His timings and unpredictable play are definitely famous. But he's also known for being good at late game and controlling his units properly. Recently he hasn't been 2 basing a lot at all. It's just kinda getting out of fashion atm. | ||
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
I think he even overprobed a little bit but I don't know, I guess he wanted a very quick fourth base as well but opted to go for his three base push after DRG lost so many units and had so little. For someone who is thought of as such a timing player, many more of his games and many of his wins have been from straight macro off three base into a pre-hive timing with colossi with the occasional three base "all-in" if the map is bad for taking a fourth. Him playing standard is giving him a better PvZ winrate than all-ins. Almost all his wins from his recent tournaments have at least included a third base. | ||
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InVerno
258 Posts
Btw, seems like this is the common opinion about the final On July 21 2012 00:10 Ansinjunger wrote: MC, win this GSL. Nothing against Seed--but I love MC. and i agree. | ||
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6660 Posts
On July 20 2012 23:04 zedrOne wrote: Here, in his FC yes, and I think the same, for me MC is the best protoss, but squirtle / puzzle and other name go up there depending on wich part of TL your are in. I dont say is macro play is bad, I say he is more famous for his timing. ask to 10 pro player what they think about MC play, you will get 10 answer about timing, none about macroplay. (that's doenst mean is macro is bad... that mean he is know for is timing...) Squirtle and Puzzle are both great Toss players. But MC only Toss to win a GSL(Gong for number 3!) Highest earning play of all time in Sc2. You can't argue with results. MC is the best Protoss in the world. People still claiming he is only a 2 base all inner are just blind. MC's macro is actually insanely good, he can keep up with the best macro players in the world late game. You just don't see it as often because MC has a 'july' switch, if he senses the slightest weakness/greed he will attack and go for the kill. That is what makes him such a diverse player and the only Protoss Champion. | ||
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ShampooSuicide
United States58 Posts
Also from the interviews it seems pretty much Seed is more like a scalpel and tries surgically analyze his opponent. Not surprising since he is on the IM team and i think that is how Nestea and MVP play. Other hand MC was saying he was more of a swiss army knife having the skills to do anything and everything and deciding what tool will be best when the time comes. I think it can turn out to be a very awesome finals also the fact that some of the most exciting PvP series involved MC. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 20 2012 22:48 Stanlot wrote: It's so odd that MC has come so far and has even been named the protoss player with the widest repertoire of builds and strategies yet people still discount his phenomenal macro style. It's not the best and he doesn't always opt for macro oriented games but it irks me whenever people are surprised that he has great macro play when he's been showing that he's fully capable of it as early as his time playing in TSL3. Further in GSL 3 he schooled rain in marco games. Fact is MC is complete. He is better @ macro than the so-called marco toss' like Parting/creator. However he scouts better sees windows opportunity and will just go kill you often which is why he gets rep. | ||
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