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furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
October 17 2011 04:26 GMT
#4521
Anyone tell me how he played in MLG? Like, any reminder of his old brilliance, or was it just like the MC from WCG Qualifiers...
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 04:51:47
October 17 2011 04:51 GMT
#4522
On October 17 2011 13:26 furerkip wrote:
Anyone tell me how he played in MLG? Like, any reminder of his old brilliance, or was it just like the MC from WCG Qualifiers...


Definite reminders of his old brilliance after the group stages (with the exception of his games vs HuK). Will have to wait and see though to see if he can keep it up vs the best of the best in Code S.

His final game vs The STC was almost a carbon copy of an old game vs Rainbow in the glory days of MCs GSL runs.
bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
October 17 2011 06:05 GMT
#4523
Welcome back MC)))) Time to win Code S!!!!
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
October 17 2011 06:11 GMT
#4524
On October 17 2011 12:02 tuho12345 wrote:
He solved his PvT, ok on PvZ, now back to the king of PvP please. I remember MC and Nestea have the highest winrate in mirror MU about 4-5 months ago. While Nestea is still untouchable, MC looks so fragile in those games.


It's pretty simple - nobody really understands PvP because of how retarded it is, and will likely always be. It was stupid before the supposed 'fixes', but even more so is now because the key issues (all-innish nature of every engagement, lack of scouting options in early-mid game) are still there, and having more and more 'viable' builds simply makes the whole thing about random guessing and less so about actually playing the game.

There's literally one Protoss in the world who posts consistent results in PvP, which is InCa, and lately he's only playing in online tournaments vs opponents who are reasonably good, but not always Code S level so who knows.

For all the whine about 'coinflippiness' of ZvZ, it's nowhere nearly as blind and stupid as PvP is.
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
October 17 2011 06:21 GMT
#4525
On October 17 2011 15:11 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 12:02 tuho12345 wrote:
He solved his PvT, ok on PvZ, now back to the king of PvP please. I remember MC and Nestea have the highest winrate in mirror MU about 4-5 months ago. While Nestea is still untouchable, MC looks so fragile in those games.


It's pretty simple - nobody really understands PvP because of how retarded it is, and will likely always be. It was stupid before the supposed 'fixes', but even more so is now because the key issues (all-innish nature of every engagement, lack of scouting options in early-mid game) are still there, and having more and more 'viable' builds simply makes the whole thing about random guessing and less so about actually playing the game.

There's literally one Protoss in the world who posts consistent results in PvP, which is InCa, and lately he's only playing in online tournaments vs opponents who are reasonably good, but not always Code S level so who knows.

For all the whine about 'coinflippiness' of ZvZ, it's nowhere nearly as blind and stupid as PvP is.


This may be true, but HuK has shown some very solid PvP. Even if he doesn't love the matchup, he said it is showing promise if you can hold off a 4-gate like he can.
BoBiNoU
Profile Joined March 2011
France181 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 06:36:53
October 17 2011 06:36 GMT
#4526
So MC made it back to Code S ? \o/
go m00
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
October 17 2011 06:55 GMT
#4527
On October 17 2011 15:21 esaul17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 15:11 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:02 tuho12345 wrote:
He solved his PvT, ok on PvZ, now back to the king of PvP please. I remember MC and Nestea have the highest winrate in mirror MU about 4-5 months ago. While Nestea is still untouchable, MC looks so fragile in those games.


It's pretty simple - nobody really understands PvP because of how retarded it is, and will likely always be. It was stupid before the supposed 'fixes', but even more so is now because the key issues (all-innish nature of every engagement, lack of scouting options in early-mid game) are still there, and having more and more 'viable' builds simply makes the whole thing about random guessing and less so about actually playing the game.

There's literally one Protoss in the world who posts consistent results in PvP, which is InCa, and lately he's only playing in online tournaments vs opponents who are reasonably good, but not always Code S level so who knows.

For all the whine about 'coinflippiness' of ZvZ, it's nowhere nearly as blind and stupid as PvP is.


This may be true, but HuK has shown some very solid PvP. Even if he doesn't love the matchup, he said it is showing promise if you can hold off a 4-gate like he can.


HuK lost a pretty quick 2-0 to Hero (who in turn was beaten by MC in the same tournament where HuK beat him) and another 2-0 to that randon no-name foU Protoss in IPL earlier, hardly very solid or showing promise to me at least. As much as I'd like it to be different, right now PvP feels like a game of dice.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 17 2011 07:14 GMT
#4528
Hell yes MC is back to the top where he belongs :D
Revolutionist fan
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
October 17 2011 07:39 GMT
#4529
On October 17 2011 15:55 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 15:21 esaul17 wrote:
On October 17 2011 15:11 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
On October 17 2011 12:02 tuho12345 wrote:
He solved his PvT, ok on PvZ, now back to the king of PvP please. I remember MC and Nestea have the highest winrate in mirror MU about 4-5 months ago. While Nestea is still untouchable, MC looks so fragile in those games.


It's pretty simple - nobody really understands PvP because of how retarded it is, and will likely always be. It was stupid before the supposed 'fixes', but even more so is now because the key issues (all-innish nature of every engagement, lack of scouting options in early-mid game) are still there, and having more and more 'viable' builds simply makes the whole thing about random guessing and less so about actually playing the game.

There's literally one Protoss in the world who posts consistent results in PvP, which is InCa, and lately he's only playing in online tournaments vs opponents who are reasonably good, but not always Code S level so who knows.

For all the whine about 'coinflippiness' of ZvZ, it's nowhere nearly as blind and stupid as PvP is.


This may be true, but HuK has shown some very solid PvP. Even if he doesn't love the matchup, he said it is showing promise if you can hold off a 4-gate like he can.


HuK lost a pretty quick 2-0 to Hero (who in turn was beaten by MC in the same tournament where HuK beat him) and another 2-0 to that randon no-name foU Protoss in IPL earlier, hardly very solid or showing promise to me at least. As much as I'd like it to be different, right now PvP feels like a game of dice.


I actually think PvP has become a fun matchup to play and watch. It is just there is a lot of stuff about pvp has not yet get figured out.
For me there are three reasons huk can destroy Mc this MLG.
First, Mc's aim is to get code s, therefore, even he was placed in a group with lots of tosses, he probablly still spend a lot of time in his pvz and pvt. Because if you think about it, he needs to defeat lots of top terrans and zergs to win that spot and he probablly more worried about his pvz and pvt.
Second, it is impossible to concentrate 100% after playing that many ace games. Playing against puma, mkp, idra and thestc, it is all one game away from getting knock out.
Third, Huk did play very well and deserved to win this time.

I personally believe Mc's pvp will be strong again. After all the pvp loss, he should realize he needs to practice more and rethinking about his strategies. And in fact, when a pvp goes into a macro pvp, you hardly can see Mc lose. He only needs to practice more to make sure he does not die in early game and also figure out this matchup a bit more.
PvP is not his weakest matchup in my view.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
October 17 2011 08:15 GMT
#4530
Congratz MC ! That last game against PuMa! :D

MC looked a little tired by the grand finals, he usually plays a bit stronger than that series, HuK had less games and played very solid (congratz dude).

Always your fan MC! :D
*burp*
JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia820 Posts
October 17 2011 08:23 GMT
#4531
congratz on code S spot Boss Toss!
.lets get weird
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 17 2011 08:27 GMT
#4532
BossToss is back on the code S throne. was so sad to see people just completely stop talking about him when he dropped from code A, it was like he didnt event exist. I'm glad we have one of our biggest icons back in the GSL. and hopefully with the patch, less 1/1/1s and some new and less predictable builds vs zerg, he can stay there!!!
Ghola
Profile Joined March 2011
United States55 Posts
October 17 2011 08:43 GMT
#4533
On October 17 2011 13:26 furerkip wrote:
Anyone tell me how he played in MLG? Like, any reminder of his old brilliance, or was it just like the MC from WCG Qualifiers...


MC's game is still looking a little shaky, but there were flashes of his old brilliance in some of the games that I haven't seen in a long time.
Checkm8
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan627 Posts
October 17 2011 09:01 GMT
#4534
Wew! MC's back! We always believed in you! We believe in you! And we will always believe in you! Grab 5 GSL trophies in a row!
Regenerating brain cells, please wait - - -
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 17 2011 09:14 GMT
#4535
BEST PRoTOSS
congratz on code s!
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Archie_Lewis
Profile Joined July 2011
Czech Republic87 Posts
October 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#4536
I can't belive it. He really made it back to code S. MC you are the best
"wow im so bad at this game..." - Chris Loranger
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
October 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#4537
Welcome back to code S MC, we've missed ya!

sooooo happy he got his revenge vs Puma and he DID look kick ass vs Terran in general.
ChinaLifeXXL
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
October 17 2011 11:10 GMT
#4538
MC such a good guy, wtg
If you can do it; you should do it every time.
Mimi :D
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany148 Posts
October 17 2011 11:40 GMT
#4539
MC FIGHTING!!
Steeveholt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada65 Posts
October 17 2011 11:43 GMT
#4540
He's back! Code S just got a lot better again. GSL: Be ready to receive my money.
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