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RM_12
201 Posts
On April 13 2011 21:12 Kylig wrote: No rage at all from what I could see, just accepting the fact that Z cant touch P endgame. Glad to see someone seeing things as they are. There is still hope in this community ;] | ||
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adius
United States249 Posts
On April 13 2011 18:25 vmendi wrote: I also bought my 6GV2 because of Idra. Idra probably understands the most important thing about sport, something that poker players understood long time ago: He is an entertainer more than anything else!!! Winning or losing is not the most important thing, people getting entertained is, that's when money comes to you! Weird to claim to be someone's fan and then not pay attention to anything they say. Idra and all the other pros have said repeatedly that focusing on winning is the most important thing because ultimately that's why people come to watch games. Nobody would watch Starcraft if it turned into some kind of terrible WWE wannabe scene. Also the people coming in here just cheering for Idra's "rage" moments are really dumb. | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
On April 13 2011 18:47 Mailing wrote: called out for what? doing what he fucking wants to? he 6pooled. If he wanted to lose, that's none of their buisness, but thinking he wanted to not get $15,000 is retarded. I don't see why Tyler especially should care, the worse off idra is about PvZ the most chance he has to win, right? Winning seems to be the only thing that matters to the top players, spouting that dumb "play to win" line every chance they possibly get. Tyler and Geoff are Greg's friends. That's why they care. It's pretty clear to me that he lacks "the eye of the tiger" and I hope he finds it. | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
 )... that - to me - is unbelievably good play... | ||
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adius
United States249 Posts
On April 14 2011 02:07 Junichi wrote: At least it seems as if he is unable - at the moment - to really tell how far ahead of the protoss he really is. I really really really hope he will learn this, but even if not I will still be a fan. His play is amazing... He almost held a 7 rax / 1 base all in, while fast expanding (there was just one mistake )... that - to me - is unbelievably good play...You can't hold that without "fast expanding"... when you're playing zerg, any time after 15-20 supply that you don't have a second base, you are rapidly approaching certain death pretty much regardless of how a non-zerg opponent opened or what they're doing. | ||
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Clamev
Germany498 Posts
The games against huk were you could really tell how badly he wanted to win this were so fucking goood. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45221 Posts
On April 14 2011 01:51 Proko wrote: Tyler and Geoff are Greg's friends. That's why they care. It's pretty clear to me that he lacks "the eye of the tiger" and I hope he finds it. I really do think iNcontroL was spot on with the criticism that IdrA has a mental block in a lot of games. I think IdrA's good enough to win in several scenarios that he deems unwinnable (and then ragequits from). He sells himself short sometimes, or his bias comes out and causes him to lose games he would win. Case in point: the hallucinated void ray game at MLG against HuK. Without considering the case that they could be hallucinated, he just left because he figured that he would auto-lose to a real army of that caliber. I hope IdrA gets over that, because he's already an amazing player. Clearing his mind just a little bit more would give him the edge he needs to beat the remaining few opponents  | ||
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ComTrav
United States1093 Posts
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
So whip out those awesome cruncher'esque drops, start trading armies, early game damage and kick some arses. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 14 2011 03:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I really do think iNcontroL was spot on with the criticism that IdrA has a mental block in a lot of games. I think IdrA's good enough to win in several scenarios that he deems unwinnable (and then ragequits from). He sells himself short sometimes, or his bias comes out and causes him to lose games he would win. Case in point: the hallucinated void ray game at MLG against HuK. Without considering the case that they could be hallucinated, he just left because he figured that he would auto-lose to a real army of that caliber. I hope IdrA gets over that, because he's already an amazing player. Clearing his mind just a little bit more would give him the edge he needs to beat the remaining few opponents he's probably showing the best results of any foreign zerg atm, I know he gets upset because he cares and tries to figure out the matchup. If he wasnt there wouldn't be a reason to get frustrated so often, he still has lots of untapped potential. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On April 13 2011 21:24 whereismymind wrote: I like IdrA, but I don't understand why he moved those Broodlords to Stalkers instead moving them away, and retreating with second Hydra/Ling group. Because brood lords are slower than molasses in january, they really can't run away. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 14 2011 03:59 MonsieurGrimm wrote: Because brood lords are slower than molasses in january, they really can't run away. Ya if you have to micro broodlords to avoid something you've probably already screwed up. They have to be defended as if they're stationary at times if the opponent has a very mobile composition or be kept at the back of your army, which negates their huge range. | ||
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zasda
381 Posts
On April 13 2011 18:47 Mailing wrote: called out for what? doing what he fucking wants to? he 6pooled. If he wanted to lose, that's none of their buisness, but thinking he wanted to not get $15,000 is retarded. I don't see why Tyler especially should care, the worse off idra is about PvZ the most chance he has to win, right? Winning seems to be the only thing that matters to the top players, spouting that dumb "play to win" line every chance they possibly get. go back to WWE if you don't like real sport mindsets kiddo | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On April 14 2011 04:20 zasda wrote: go back to WWE if you don't like real sport mindsets kiddo whats a "real" sports mindset? | ||
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BobGayman
89 Posts
hurr durr if you don't win you lose That one. | ||
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zasda
381 Posts
thought it was obvious what i was refering to in the quote so i'm not gonna tell u, u're gonna have to start figuring things out for yourself at some point anyway, buddy. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45221 Posts
On April 14 2011 03:50 Serpico wrote: he's probably showing the best results of any foreign zerg atm, I know he gets upset because he cares and tries to figure out the matchup. If he wasnt there wouldn't be a reason to get frustrated so often, he still has lots of untapped potential. I agree. He's obviously doing a lot of analysis in his ZvX match-ups. It's just a little heart-breaking to see him quit when he can still win a few games that he doesn't think he can. | ||
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Biigfoot
United States159 Posts
A real sports mindset is to win. A real sports competitor values winning over everything else. That's why idiots in other sports who sign with shitty teams for tons of money are looked down on by the sports communities. | ||
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ABOOMAN
Burma156 Posts
I wish the role would be reversed so we zerg players could say "well, you cant win vs Z by playing standard, you have to use 5 warp prism high templar storm harass, 3 of them being fake hallucinations of course. Also, not enough motherships, try to get fast mothership its actually SO good. Multi prong attacks with carriers are also essential to beat a zerg" | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
On April 14 2011 04:58 ABOOMAN wrote: P telling zergs how to play is getting really tilting. "Get creative, use nydus, harass at 5 different places, mass overseers to delay colosus". I wish the role would be reversed so we zerg players could say "well, you cant win vs Z by playing standard, you have to use 5 warp prism high templar storm harass, 3 of them being fake hallucinations of course. Also, not enough motherships, try to get fast mothership its actually SO good. Multi prong attacks with carriers are also essential to beat a zerg" They're not wrong though, idra even say it himself that that late game zerg options aren't very attractive. I mean, I agree with you, zerg shouldn't have to pull out every trick in the book to deal with another race playing completely standard, but I think it's sort of the case none the less. | ||
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