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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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ratMortar
Canada282 Posts
On March 29 2011 04:45 Whole wrote: Isn't it weird that IdrA never posted in his own fanclub yet? He reads the posts on his stream sometimes, but it's not like anyone's given him a reason to reply. Scan the 280 pages of this thread and you'll see a lot of bad posts. Hell, I'm pretty sure I'm guilty of a few. I'm sure if there was a discussion worth his attention, he'd answer. | ||
Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
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Kralle333
Denmark301 Posts
On March 28 2011 23:12 freetgy wrote: 20 Corrupters are not enough, Corrupters get countered by Voidrays so much since they do way more damage, what Idra should have done is to focus the colossus and remax with hydras. Mutalisk/Hydra most likely would have fared way alot better than Corrupter/roach/Hydra Hydras destroy Voidrays so cost effectively that it gets ugly. in the end he just waited to long and didn't put his economic advantage into a tactical advantage as Game 2 proved. I dont understand why people dont use mutas. Cheaper in gas, isnt countered by voidrays, isn't countered by stalkers directly and can hit colossus. | ||
Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
It doesn't need to be a reply, it could just be some info, just like he does on his twitter. But then again, why would he post it here if he's posting on twitter... It's all very confusing. But sometimes I don't know if at the end of the interviews, when thanks the fans, he really means it, or just says it... I hope he means it, I mean... he's like an example of perseverance, patience and hard work.. //tx | ||
Clontarf
8 Posts
I also think its kind of weird when a pro posts in their own fan club. I'll be a fan as long as he keeps having the occasional game like game 2 in TSL. I'll remember that series because of that game not the end result. | ||
Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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pak150
United States531 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:08 Kralle333 wrote: I dont understand why people dont use mutas. Cheaper in gas, isnt countered by voidrays, isn't countered by stalkers directly and can hit colossus. Doesn't guardian shield substantially lower muta damage? | ||
Stamper
Germany148 Posts
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HyperLink
Canada172 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:08 Kralle333 wrote: I dont understand why people dont use mutas. Cheaper in gas, isnt countered by voidrays, isn't countered by stalkers directly and can hit colossus. Huh? Mutas are 100/100, Corruptors are 150/100... same gas. Not to mention Corruptor has base 14 damage with +6 to massive (re: Colossus). Mutalisk does 9/3/1 respectively. Corruptor is 200 health, mutalisk is 120... If a stalker does 10(4) it takes (with no regen) 12 shots to kill a Mutalisk and 14.2 to kill a Corruptor. Mutalisks will kill a collosus slower, die faster and generally aren't useful in a straight up fight... Corruptors also can be morphed into Broodlords which make them infinitely more useful late game to break a Protoss turtle since you'll be chased by blink stalkers all day if you go Mutalisk. Corruptors can also cast spells to increase their damage output while mutas can not... etc. | ||
sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:41 pak150 wrote: Doesn't guardian shield substantially lower muta damage? Yes it does. Stalkers with blink do counter mutas and with double stargate toss can hold on long enough to pump pheonix. What I would have done was focused collossi down with 8-10 corruptors and the rest of the army is hydras. Why even build roaches? They are bad to max with and hydras do better against everything else in the deathball except collossi anyways. | ||
Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:41 pak150 wrote: Doesn't guardian shield substantially lower muta damage? I think there were too many stalkers there, mutas would melt pretty quickly, and with guardian shield their damage would be really low (though they damage multiple targets) I don't know how he could have stoped that death ball... //tx | ||
ImHuko
United States996 Posts
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sc2pal
Poland624 Posts
(...) Why even build roaches? They are bad to max with and hydras do better against everything else in the deathball except collossi anyways. Because the roach is better as a tanky unit and its easy spamable. U will never get pure hydra army cuz u wont ever have that much gas so u can just fill it with roaches which are cheaper. | ||
Mintastic
United States166 Posts
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Korea (South)497 Posts
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diverzee
Sweden992 Posts
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:59 Tschis wrote: I think there were too many stalkers there, mutas would melt pretty quickly, and with guardian shield their damage would be really low (though they damage multiple targets) I don't know how he could have stoped that death ball... //tx In my experience (lowly plat/gold leagues) Mutas absolutely demolish VR/Colo. Use Mutas + Pure speedlings with upgrades. I prefer going armor ups, since most units that hit air do several low damage hits. Of course it may not translate to Idra's pro level, but I think it is better than corruptors. Specially since it is easier to snipe any VR/Colo that walks too far from the stalkers. | ||
Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:53 Jotoco wrote: In my experience (lowly plat/gold leagues) Mutas absolutely demolish VR/Colo. Use Mutas + Pure speedlings with upgrades. I prefer going armor ups, since most units that hit air do several low damage hits. Of course it may not translate to Idra's pro level, but I think it is better than corruptors. Specially since it is easier to snipe any VR/Colo that walks too far from the stalkers. Except that the colossus would melt half of the lings before they could hit anything, and the Stalkers with VR would melt the Mutas before they could kill the colossus. //tx | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:59 Tschis wrote: I think there were too many stalkers there, mutas would melt pretty quickly, and with guardian shield their damage would be really low (though they damage multiple targets) I don't know how he could have stoped that death ball... //tx This is good post to reply to =) The "counter"(it doesn't really have one) to that ball in my experience is to: 1. get a huge economic lead 2. lower drone and Queen count significantly to around 55-60 drones / 3-4 Queens as you get maxed and your main and nat begin to dry 3. Make a million billion Corruptors 4. Suicide the Corruptors in as far away from your base as possible, focusing on their Colossi before the Voidrays 5. Remax with Hydras and kill him while his Colossus numbers are low This is the best thing I've found but it still requires a lot of precision. Lategame muta switch actually is amazing against this as well, you can harrass really nicely with them and they aren't even terrible in a straight-up fight. | ||
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