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naux
Canada738 Posts
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Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
On June 04 2012 10:46 walklightwhat wrote: Gotten? He's been losing games the same way for over a year. The same way? No. Back in the day he would lose games because of his decision making and leaving games too early. Now he loses games primarily because his control and timings are just off the mark. | ||
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skiersteve
United Kingdom268 Posts
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walklightwhat
Australia752 Posts
On June 04 2012 10:48 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: The same way? No. Back in the day he would lose games because of his decision making and leaving games too early. Now he loses games primarily because his control and timings are just off the mark. No, even when he was leaving early his control was a massive flaw. Poor engagements, amoving, bad infestor control all of those have been problems for a while. His macro and mechanics were just good enough to make up for it. | ||
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Damrak
Netherlands124 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 04 2012 10:48 naux wrote: he needs to go back to muta/bling style, just because he thinks infestor/ling is better doesnt mean its fit for his style Mhmm, I always disagree with Idra when he says muta play is dead or something. It's definitely more map dependent then before, but muta play is still very strong and Idra was very good with his mutalisks. I hope he realizes they are still good and uses both styles instead of just infestors again. | ||
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Crake_
United States74 Posts
On June 04 2012 10:51 walklightwhat wrote: No, even when he was leaving early his control was a massive flaw. Poor engagements, amoving, bad infestor control all of those have been problems for a while. His macro and mechanics were just good enough to make up for it. Nah, Idra's always cut it close with multitasking, so when he miscontrols the viewer sees an "idiotic" mistake. He doesn't ever seem to have liked spellcasters, and infestors are very fragile and slow, so that probably is a tough adjustment. Also, he lost a great deal of time during that mental slump, and he's playing catch up now. He'll get it, he just needs a bit of time to integrate the game's new level of complexity into his mental model. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On June 04 2012 11:23 blade55555 wrote: Mhmm, I always disagree with Idra when he says muta play is dead or something. It's definitely more map dependent then before, but muta play is still very strong and Idra was very good with his mutalisks. I hope he realizes they are still good and uses both styles instead of just infestors again. Mutas are dead TvZ. The current meta-game has Terran playing some styles where muta can be effective, but it's so easy for them to transition and counter it's just silly. You won't catch them off-guard with mutas if they are at all competent | ||
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Makura
United States317 Posts
On June 04 2012 11:49 Mr Showtime wrote: Mutas are dead TvZ. The current meta-game has Terran playing some styles where muta can be effective, but it's so easy for them to transition and counter it's just silly. You won't catch them off-guard with mutas if they are at all competent Seal, Leenock, Symbol and DRG all use mutas frequently to great effect. I think muta style suits idra better and if anything, the switch to mass medivacs is almost nullifying the infestor style. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 04 2012 11:49 Mr Showtime wrote: Mutas are dead TvZ. The current meta-game has Terran playing some styles where muta can be effective, but it's so easy for them to transition and counter it's just silly. You won't catch them off-guard with mutas if they are at all competent Muta's are not supposed to be a surprise unit, they are not supposed to do economic damage. This was the same in BW, people went mutas, it forced turrets so essentially you are doing some sort of economic damage. Also would like you to tell all the korean zergs who use mutalisks that they are dead (and they win with them to, DRG beat mkp with them as well). Both styles are good and both depend on maps, maps like antiga are definitely a bad muta map, but a map like taldarim/daybreak/etc are not bad muta maps at all. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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immanentblue
Denmark110 Posts
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
I'm trying to find that vid of 5 best engagements or something like that, really early in sc2, in which he got twice, I think, both with ling bling muta. That was fucking awesome Edit: Whole, please tell me you hired this guy to make the plushie for Greg http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=342117 | ||
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nanospartan
649 Posts
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Smartwater
United States35 Posts
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Leberwurstbrot
Germany144 Posts
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Crake_
United States74 Posts
On June 04 2012 15:40 Incze wrote: Yeah, but even if he switched back now, he would have to practice the muta build all over again, which should be easier than this anyway, since he loves that build and hates the infestor one. I really don't know, but I have to say, nothing was more epic than when an actual swarm of mutas, blings and lings rushed for the enemy tank like and obliterated everything. That was an actual zerg swarm, when I saw that I really thought that it was a zerg masterpiece, the true zerg now a slow-moving, immobile force, a deathball if you wish. I'm trying to find that vid of 5 best engagements or something like that, really early in sc2, in which he got twice, I think, both with ling bling muta. That was fucking awesome Edit: Whole, please tell me you hired this guy to make the plushie for Greg http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=342117 Totally remember this, Bel'Shir beach? Idra's engineered some of the most awesome zerg moments. I was basically sexually aroused by his nydus play against puma at IEM China. I know I suck at the game, but I wonder if zergs could use nydus + 3base spine turtling to defeat protoss 2-base all-ins? Could stall out push at zerg third by baiting FFs long enough to send some roaches to hit protoss expand, then nydus them back to hold zerg expand? I love it when zergs place the nydus far enough away that it doesn't get insta-killed while spawning. PS my dream is to get idra to call me an idiot!!! | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
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Weinstein
Germany39 Posts
On June 04 2012 10:50 skiersteve wrote: out of all races i wouldnt even put idra in top 20 forienger atm his macro isnt bad by any stretch but his micro and engagments are so god dam terrible I think it is safe to judge by Idras performance thet even TLO could beat him. User was warned for this post | ||
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