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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On February 23 2012 13:00 thegiantnome wrote: Why is IdrA getting so much hate? He hasn't had a great 2012. SSSOOO!!! Did anyone even watch MLG Orlando?!?!?!?! IdrA(who is apparently bad?!?!?!?!) beat Boxer followed by Hongun and then Bomber. He beat three CODE S PLAYERS!!! Code S and now he's bad because he didn't do well in his first tournament since he returned to korea? Now he's bad because he lost A game to sheth? Other then that random protoss he lost to Nestea one of the best Zergs in the world, Lucky another incredibly good zerg, and Sheth who only won one game. WOW SOME OF YOU ARE RIGHT IDRAS TERRIBLE!!!! If you don't like IdrA please leave his fan club. He played more matches than just those, the 0-4 vs Taeja and aLive for instance. He also lost in some NASTL match. | ||
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Lennient
497 Posts
On February 23 2012 16:13 Grumbels wrote: He played more matches than just those, the 0-4 vs Taeja and aLive for instance. He also lost in some NASTL match. That doesn't work that way. If you lose to an extremely good player, then there is no shame losing to them. Taeja made Lucky (a Code S quality player) look silly yesterday, and if you ever heard of NEXLife, and NSHSseal, then watch their results vs Taeja in previous ESV weeklies. On the other hand, aLive isn't in Code S round 4 for nothing. Losing a BO1 to HerO is not that bad, you watched Dimaga vs HerO yet ? Maybe the match vs Sheth was a little more important, but its not like he would earn that much if he won. | ||
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midftw
Canada170 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
On February 23 2012 17:10 ThePlayer33 wrote: dw idra got dis =D IdrA has got what? Is he playing in something right now? Edit: wait... you just mean "he got this" bc of the "idra needs to start winning" post, right? :D I'm stupid. | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
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kurrysauce
272 Posts
 ) Guess I'll have to read the live reports if I'm still awake when he's on, kinda don't want to anyway since he's up against Oz in the first round . | ||
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Chriscras
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Alive eliminated by Genius GRACK'S REVENGE!!! | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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mlm
Austria164 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
On February 23 2012 19:05 Chriscras wrote: + Show Spoiler + Alive eliminated by Genius GRACK'S REVENGE!!! How is that revenge for Idra? | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On February 23 2012 16:13 Grumbels wrote: He played more matches than just those, the 0-4 vs Taeja and aLive for instance. He also lost in some NASTL match. Horrible slumps happen to everyone, they tend to get worse for someone who is known for tilting. Be patient and Idra'll start showing us who he really is again. Aside from the GSL, none of those matches were that important. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On February 23 2012 21:45 Incognoto wrote: Horrible slumps happen to everyone, they tend to get worse for someone who is known for tilting. Be patient and Idra'll start showing us who he really is again. Aside from the GSL, none of those matches were that important. I don't take those losses too seriously. Most of the players he faced were just really good and it's not a shame to lose to them. The problem is that for every foreigner, the number of "sick good" Koreans that you're expected to lose to starts to get into like the dozens. I guess I had higher hopes for IdrA and his three months in the SlayerS house, I hoped maybe he could be competitive in Code A or higher with just a bit of training and adjusting to the Korean playstyles. And if one starts counting on IdrA crushing foreigners with his newfound strength after training at 100x gravity in the Korean gyms, or so, then at some point it still gets to be pointless, because taking wins off of foreigners has gotten so irrelevant by now. | ||
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
On February 23 2012 12:52 Jinsho wrote: Zerg vs Zerg openings are hatch first > 14/14 > 10 pool > hatch first, so what Sheth said would have been correct assuming that's what happened. This is just a matter of meaning so I'm not going to press this point after this post (and Sheth himself did say it was a "build order" loss, although I think he was being a "mannered bear" and throwing Idra a bone). But a "build order loss" is typically used to refer to a build that directly counters his opponent's build and thus, unless you get really lucky or your opponent is vastly inferior to you, you will lose. That is not the case at all w/14/14 v. 15 hatch, 15 pool. The player who goes 14/14 will have speed first and an army and tech advantage early in the match that can be used to do damage. A "build order loss" could be used, for instance, to refer to a player who goes 16 hatch, 17 pool v. 10 pool + spines -- nearly impossible to hold off no matter how good you are. All I'm saying is that after sheth went hatch first Idra was in no way out of the game (as he would be if it were simply a "build order loss"). He would be at a disadvantage if he failed to do damage and that's what happened, except that he not only failed to do damage but sheth actually came out ahead after the attack (probably because of lag or a simple misclick by Idra) and at that point Idra was dead. | ||
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Jinsho
United Kingdom3101 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 24 2012 00:59 The_Darkness wrote: This is just a matter of meaning so I'm not going to press this point after this post (and Sheth himself did say it was a "build order" loss, although I think he was being a "mannered bear" and throwing Idra a bone). But a "build order loss" is typically used to refer to a build that directly counters his opponent's build and thus, unless you get really lucky or your opponent is vastly inferior to you, you will lose. That is not the case at all w/14/14 v. 15 hatch, 15 pool. The player who goes 14/14 will have speed first and an army and tech advantage early in the match that can be used to do damage. A "build order loss" could be used, for instance, to refer to a player who goes 16 hatch, 17 pool v. 10 pool + spines -- nearly impossible to hold off no matter how good you are. All I'm saying is that after sheth went hatch first Idra was in no way out of the game (as he would be if it were simply a "build order loss"). He would be at a disadvantage if he failed to do damage and that's what happened, except that he not only failed to do damage but sheth actually came out ahead after the attack (probably because of lag or a simple misclick by Idra) and at that point Idra was dead. having speed first very rarely actually gives you anything, it means your opponent doesnt leave his base (which he never would before speed) and it means you might get one or two drone kills, maybe a queen at the FAR outside but it also means he has 2 hatchs pumping units while you only have one and hell have 2 queens when you have one and you HAVE to drop a baneling nest and hes free to tech to whatever he wants faster then you are ZvZ is a very Razors edge match up, the game often ends because your opponent got that one better baneling hit or got that +1 roach upgrade jsut a bit before yours or got mutas jsut a bit before you were ready for them a small advantage in ZvZ multiplys very quickly | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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