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naux
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada738 Posts
February 22 2012 10:44 GMT
#35361
On February 22 2012 19:38 Incognoto wrote:
ZvZ is very volatile and playing ZvZ in latency is probably unplayable. Please do not hate on Idra for this, thank you.


haha when idrA loses everyone cheers... but when he wins everyone cheers! just a bunch of bandwagoners i usually just ignore the haters now a days idrA ftw!
Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
February 22 2012 10:44 GMT
#35362
On February 22 2012 19:38 Incognoto wrote:
ZvZ is very volatile and playing ZvZ in latency is probably unplayable. Please do not hate on Idra for this, thank you.


amen
IdrA!
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
February 22 2012 10:55 GMT
#35363
On February 22 2012 19:44 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 19:38 Incognoto wrote:
ZvZ is very volatile and playing ZvZ in latency is probably unplayable. Please do not hate on Idra for this, thank you.


haha when idrA loses everyone cheers... but when he wins everyone cheers! just a bunch of bandwagoners i usually just ignore the haters now a days idrA ftw!


I think its more like when Idra lose all the haters cheers, and when he wins all the fanboys cheers. And there are plenty of both sides so it will always be a party no matter what Idra do.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 22 2012 11:11 GMT
#35364
On February 22 2012 12:38 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 12:33 Forikorder wrote:
On February 22 2012 12:16 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On February 22 2012 11:58 VashTS wrote:
On February 22 2012 11:29 JimCarry wrote:
I just had to make an account to comment on this, Idra was ahead with 6 drones, behind by 5 supply. >>>> This is far from unrecoverable.

IdrA is just mad that he was once a great player but couldnt keep up with the rest of the world. I know the feeling

User was banned for this post.

Clearly somebody didn't watch the game at all.
On February 22 2012 11:22 LostFaction wrote:
This is starting to become pathetic.
Pointing Lag as an excuse is complete BS. If Idra is really not confident in his play, he should just sit out.
Pulling a Naniwa several games in a row is just stupid. And for the record, it was not a 100% lost game, i have seen zergs make a comeback in a much worst situations.

How is lag not an excuse playing cross-server? EVERYBODY complains about cross-server lag. =/

Also, please please PLEASE show a Zerg come back from a much worse situation. Pretty please!




While it's not a 'much worse situation,' the game between Ret and State Artosis just did was one I could definitely have seen Idra GGing out of. If you didn't see it, Ret had the entire top half of Antiga while State was down to long-range mining from the third to the gold. Ret threw away an overwhelming advantage and State's sentry/stalker/immortal/collosus ball rolled through his third, natural, main and gold and did a lot of damage to one of his remaining bases. Ret was able to rally together enough roaches to snipe the sentries, Immortals and Collosi, and held against a sentry/stalker/probe all-in.

ZvZ =/= ZvP


Totally aware. I'm not saying Idra left early. He was dead.

On the other hand, I don't think Idra would have stayed in a game like the State/Ret one.


Depends... would idra leave a game where's he's up 2 or 3 bases against one? I've seen Idra put up a fight against P for a relatively long time (on his stream).
maru lover forever
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
February 22 2012 11:15 GMT
#35365
On February 22 2012 19:44 naux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 19:38 Incognoto wrote:
ZvZ is very volatile and playing ZvZ in latency is probably unplayable. Please do not hate on Idra for this, thank you.


haha when idrA loses everyone cheers... but when he wins everyone cheers! just a bunch of bandwagoners i usually just ignore the haters now a days idrA ftw!


indeed. ftw
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 14:15:27
February 22 2012 14:15 GMT
#35366
God damn it, it pains me to see that people actually believe it's all excuses when we say the ling loss was probably lag -.-' WHAT THE FUCK, PEOPLE?!?!?
asdfg, I need something to do before the tournament season starts, so we get to see actual lag-free games that actually matter
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 22 2012 14:16 GMT
#35367
On February 22 2012 23:15 Aocowns wrote:
God damn it, it pains me to see that people actually believe it's all excuses when we say the ling loss was probably lag -.-' WHAT THE FUCK, PEOPLE?!?!?
asdfg, I need something to do before the tournament season starts, so we get to see actual lag-free games that actually matter

Isn't MLG this weekend? He'll be there
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
February 22 2012 14:44 GMT
#35368
On February 22 2012 23:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 23:15 Aocowns wrote:
God damn it, it pains me to see that people actually believe it's all excuses when we say the ling loss was probably lag -.-' WHAT THE FUCK, PEOPLE?!?!?
asdfg, I need something to do before the tournament season starts, so we get to see actual lag-free games that actually matter

Isn't MLG this weekend? He'll be there

Still haven't made up my mind if the god damn 20$ are worth it. 10$, yes take all my fucking money, but 20$ when I'm not even sure what player Idra is going to play, much less if he's even going to make it through the first round...? I'm not sure...

Probably going to break down and buy the second I see a hype post for Idra MLG in this fanclub though ;__;
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 22 2012 14:59 GMT
#35369
If the VODs are free tbh I'm just going to stay away from TL and watch them afterwards, à la GSL.
maru lover forever
Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
February 22 2012 15:00 GMT
#35370
his first one is Oz

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Arena

im also not sure, 20$ is a lot of money for just watching him play and maybe drop out off the first round
IdrA!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 22 2012 15:05 GMT
#35371
On February 23 2012 00:00 Fortii wrote:
his first one is Oz

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Winter/Arena

im also not sure, 20$ is a lot of money for just watching him play and maybe drop out off the first round


There's a loser's bracket

And while this is sufficient for 20 bucks (if you're not in absolute poverty), the tournament also has MKP, Leenock, MC, Nestea, Mvp and so many others worthy of entertaining you.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
February 22 2012 15:08 GMT
#35372
What the shit? He's still in Korea!?
http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/2128109/1/Cale/matches

Shoudln't he start getting on the plane to MLG? T_T
Get crunk
Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 15:13:12
February 22 2012 15:10 GMT
#35373
plane doesnt take 3 days

edit: idra would be my only motivation to watch this. i dont give a fuck about most other players. dunno why
IdrA!
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
February 22 2012 15:15 GMT
#35374
Re-setting sleep schedule does... He did say he doesn't get that affected by jetlag though. Still want him to go now >_>
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Crake_
Profile Joined March 2011
United States74 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 15:20:52
February 22 2012 15:17 GMT
#35375
Man, some of you folks are not very good fans.

I do want to add that, when you approach the top of a discipline, there's a tendency to get very melodramatic about successes and failures, because you are at the point where--at least in the minds of many--"talent" becomes the deciding factor. When you succeed you tend to think that you "have it," and when you begin to slip you quickly can become convinced that you "do not have it." But in my experience (albeit not with SC2), a lot of what folks think of as "talent" actually is the ability to practice well.

Physically--and I speak as a guitarist--the upper mechanical limit of the human body is much, much higher than we see in SC2. Good practice lets you take advantage of the body's potential for speed by internalizing certain specific actions such that the performer bypasses the (quite slow) symbolic/linguistic/conceptual part of the brain. This is not to say that the conscious mind disengages from the performance; rather, you are able to bypass thinking about the mechanics of the action. (Walking is an example familiar to everybody.)

This relates to Idra in two ways. First, when I see him play less well than he has in the past, I see a lot of tension in his play. Internal tension is the enemy of speed, because it indicates that parts of the body/brain are working in opposition to each other. To again analogize to guitar: I need strong fingers to press the strings, but if I am tensing to achieve accuracy, I am wasting a great deal of that strength. Similarly, if I have mental tension and do not commit entirely to a note, that note will not come out as it should. Even as Idra plays, I see him devoting a lot of mental effort to fighting himself. Positive ideation is key, because the minute you doubt yourself you second-guess, and the minute you second-guess yourself, your speed falls apart.

Second, tension in practice becomes a habit, and when it does it limits what a person believes he is able to do. This is because it seems to the person as if he is devoting 100% effort and still falling short--when really a good bit of that effort is wasted. As a viewer, to me, the mechanical ceiling for zerg is immensely unexplored, though Idra has explored it in some instances (against Puma at IEM, against Nestea at MLG). Fast overlords with creep + nydus + overlord drop (aka zero supply dropships) + spine/spore movement capability are key aspects of the race. A dedicated human certainly has the apm to make use of all of these things.

Talent simply is the inability to tolerate imperfection. SC2 play is far from perfect. Yes, it's a little coin-flippy. But I know a chick with tiny, tiny hands who has won piano competitions despite her clear physical impediment. External imperfection often can't be changed. But, some physical sports aside, internal perfection is quite enough.

The best way to take the weight off your shoulders is to remember that it's not about you.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
February 22 2012 15:29 GMT
#35376
Very well said. Some people may genuinely not understand why IdrA sometimes loses when he shouldn't. This is why.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 22 2012 20:13 GMT
#35377
excellent post Crakke_! Also:

Poll: Will you be watching MLG Winter Arena?

No (234)
 
64%

Yes (99)
 
27%

Maybe (50/50 Chance) (32)
 
9%

365 total votes

Your vote: Will you be watching MLG Winter Arena?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Maybe (50/50 Chance)
(Vote): No



Fortii
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 20:15:25
February 22 2012 20:14 GMT
#35378
nevermind. nice post Crake.
IdrA!
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
February 22 2012 20:20 GMT
#35379
On February 23 2012 05:13 Whole wrote:
excellent post Crakke_! Also:

Poll: Will you be watching MLG Winter Arena?

No (234)
 
64%

Yes (99)
 
27%

Maybe (50/50 Chance) (32)
 
9%

365 total votes

Your vote: Will you be watching MLG Winter Arena?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Maybe (50/50 Chance)
(Vote): No





On another note, happy escape from your moms vagina day!
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 22 2012 20:23 GMT
#35380
On February 23 2012 05:20 llKenZyll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 05:13 Whole wrote:
excellent post Crakke_! Also:

Poll: Will you be watching MLG Winter Arena?

No (234)
 
64%

Yes (99)
 
27%

Maybe (50/50 Chance) (32)
 
9%

365 total votes

Your vote: Will you be watching MLG Winter Arena?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Maybe (50/50 Chance)
(Vote): No





On another note, happy escape from your moms vagina day!


Ugh, yuk, Kenzy. But happy birthday Whole!
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
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