• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:56
CET 22:56
KST 06:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-186Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What are former legends up to these days? BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2002 users

The Ret Fan Club - Page 88

Forum Index > Fan Clubs
Post a Reply
Prev 1 86 87 88 89 90 99 Next
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
November 23 2012 22:39 GMT
#1741
I forgive you Ret, as we say in french "fault confessed is half forgiven". I hope you can overcome your personnal difficulties and that you can start performing again soon !
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 23 2012 22:43 GMT
#1742
We are all humans, we have emotions, and we all make mistakes...it's what we do afterward that shows who we really are. Lesson learned and time to move on.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
November 23 2012 22:44 GMT
#1743
On November 24 2012 07:14 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
What did Ret do to throw the game?

He had the audacity to have an emotional breakdown during a major tournament which affected his performance and decision-making in the game.

For shame!
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
November 23 2012 22:46 GMT
#1744
On November 24 2012 07:44 bonifaceviii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 07:14 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
What did Ret do to throw the game?

He had the audacity to have an emotional breakdown during a major tournament which affected his performance and decision-making in the game.

For shame!

That doesn't explain what happened though, I'm genuinely curious what the fuss is all about.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
November 23 2012 22:50 GMT
#1745
It's ok Ret we still love you <3
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
November 23 2012 23:01 GMT
#1746
We love you Ret, please stay strong. <3
Dance those ultras
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 23 2012 23:05 GMT
#1747
I'm sorry to ask but what exactly did he do? Six pool, drone rush, etc.? I don't fault him too much although I am glad he apologized and I am always a fan. But I think that the method he used to throw the game is relevant. Any strat he did that had any possibility of beating Nightend is technically not a throw.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
StarCraft2
Profile Joined October 2012
160 Posts
November 23 2012 23:06 GMT
#1748
Show yourself that you're strong man!
Nillinch
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland147 Posts
November 23 2012 23:11 GMT
#1749
Come Ret don't be pussy...

User was warned for this post
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 23 2012 23:19 GMT
#1750
On November 24 2012 07:46 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 07:44 bonifaceviii wrote:
On November 24 2012 07:14 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
What did Ret do to throw the game?

He had the audacity to have an emotional breakdown during a major tournament which affected his performance and decision-making in the game.

For shame!

That doesn't explain what happened though, I'm genuinely curious what the fuss is all about.

he kept talking about random stuff during the game while making pretty much nothing but speedbanes and suiciding them into buildings and impossible/nonsensical engagments while building hatcheries everywhere etc

it was quite clear what he was doing
wwowz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
November 23 2012 23:19 GMT
#1751
Ret I will cheer you no matter what!! you are my favorite zerg player and I hope you do well in the future tournaments. <3<3
ShamansForest
Profile Joined August 2011
United States21 Posts
November 23 2012 23:46 GMT
#1752
Its okay man , I had a good laugh after it all.
"Use your smile to change the world. Don't let the world change your smile." - Liquid'HerO <3
Hejie023
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada2 Posts
November 23 2012 23:51 GMT
#1753
No need for apologies, you did nothing wrong it's the DH regulations that are at fault, you shouldn't have someone who is alrdy eliminated decide someone else's fate, since you were alrdy out of the tournament there is no reason for you to play
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 23:57:17
November 23 2012 23:54 GMT
#1754
For those asking about the drama:

At Dreamhack, he played against NightEnd for the chance to advance past the group stages. Ret lost the first game and at the start of the second game he paused to ask the admins about his chances of advancement. The pause went on for a few minutes while they decided. Ret learned, but didn't tell anyone (e.g. viewers, casters, NightEnd), that having lost the first game, NaNiwa was going to advance no matter what. He then went ling/baneling all-in and made some questionable decisions with continuously throwing his units against forcefields instead of possibly more useful things, e.g. killing the third base. After losing all his units, and when it was clear that NightEnd had held the all-in, Ret expanded 5 times and continuously made only lings and banelings.

During this entire time nobody really knew that this game meant absolutely nothing because Dreamhack's tie-break rules meant that NaNiwa was advancing no matter what. Apollo had erroneously announced that if NightEnd won the 2nd game then he would advance instead of NaNiwa.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
spmarC
Profile Joined April 2011
12 Posts
November 24 2012 00:04 GMT
#1755
Keep your head up Ret! Stay strong!
Anomi
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 00:33:50
November 24 2012 00:33 GMT
#1756
On November 24 2012 04:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Hey everyone.

I've had time to cool my emotions and talk to a lot of people about what happened between me and nightend, and I realize that what I did was very wrong. I disappointed the people watching the stream, my fans, nightends fans, Dreamhack, the casters, ESPORTS itself. My actions are detrimental to our lovely sport, and if other people would have the same kind of attitude, then nobody would even bother to watch SC2.

I have recently gone through a lot of stuff, changes in my life and even though it's no excuse I am not ashamed to admit that I have probably been through one of the most emotional weeks of my life. All I really wanted was to play good starcraft as a way to escape from everything that has been going on in my head. There was nothing I wanted more than to advance to the ro12, and after failing that mission after losing game 1, I literally broke down. I sat there in my chair almost crying, and sadness took over me completely. Because of that I didn't bring what I should have brought to the 2nd game of the BO3 series. I want to apologize. I really feel bad about what happened, and even though I can't change what happened I can promise you it will never happen again. In 10 years of playing SC1/SC2 tournaments I have never thrown a game or acted like I did against nightend. But it is what it is, it happened and I can't change it. I can only ask for forgiveness and move forward after this and I'll try my best to do a better job at competing. To my team, my peers, and the people watching, I'm sorry.

I also hate the fact that im taking attention away from all the great sc2 games, so please cheer for the remaining players.


To be honest I was a bit angry about how you decided to handle the situation, but the only thing i myself would ask of u when doing something like that is that you realize the wrong doing and apologies. Since you done that I don’t have anything to be angry about anymore.

I hope you remember that there are people like me that don’t only watch you because of your wins. I like to watch your games because I know you will always provide entraining good games no matter where you play or who you play. I wish you luck in the future and you should always remember that you have allot of support not because of your wins but because of who you are as a player, and let me tell you that you’re great one. So no more shit like this from you I hope
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
November 24 2012 00:49 GMT
#1757
On November 24 2012 04:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Hey everyone.

I've had time to cool my emotions and talk to a lot of people about what happened between me and nightend, and I realize that what I did was very wrong. I disappointed the people watching the stream, my fans, nightends fans, Dreamhack, the casters, ESPORTS itself. My actions are detrimental to our lovely sport, and if other people would have the same kind of attitude, then nobody would even bother to watch SC2.

I have recently gone through a lot of stuff, changes in my life and even though it's no excuse I am not ashamed to admit that I have probably been through one of the most emotional weeks of my life. All I really wanted was to play good starcraft as a way to escape from everything that has been going on in my head. There was nothing I wanted more than to advance to the ro12, and after failing that mission after losing game 1, I literally broke down. I sat there in my chair almost crying, and sadness took over me completely. Because of that I didn't bring what I should have brought to the 2nd game of the BO3 series. I want to apologize. I really feel bad about what happened, and even though I can't change what happened I can promise you it will never happen again. In 10 years of playing SC1/SC2 tournaments I have never thrown a game or acted like I did against nightend. But it is what it is, it happened and I can't change it. I can only ask for forgiveness and move forward after this and I'll try my best to do a better job at competing. To my team, my peers, and the people watching, I'm sorry.

I also hate the fact that im taking attention away from all the great sc2 games, so please cheer for the remaining players.



And I think I can speak for most people when I say we respect you for owning it. You always have your fans dude. Keep pluggin and good luck
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
November 24 2012 01:42 GMT
#1758
On November 24 2012 04:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I also hate the fact that im taking attention away from all the great sc2 games, so please cheer for the remaining players.


I disagree!
Your games were awesome, a lot of other games were awesome too...
Honestly? A few hours after what happened, I coudlnt even remember what happened anymore.
It was not that HUGE like you might be thinking.

You still got my support, man!
Life will treat you right when you allow yourself to be on your best shape.
Go for it!
What are you tinkering about?
baba1
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada355 Posts
November 24 2012 02:31 GMT
#1759
It can happen to any of us Ret !
We are all humans

noq uote
Adersick
Profile Joined July 2011
United States216 Posts
November 24 2012 02:36 GMT
#1760
Aww Ret, everyone can feel overwhelmed, this stuff happens. You've made your intention to improve and avoid this sort of scenario clear, so I'll forgive ya! Good luck in the future Ret, this is a small hiccup that we'll all learn from!
Prev 1 86 87 88 89 90 99 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
17:30
Mini Rotti Monday
sebesdes vs HarstemLIVE!
GgMaChine vs TBD
RotterdaM892
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 892
mouzHeroMarine 409
Harstem 263
PiGStarcraft138
ProTech128
JuggernautJason76
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 415
Dewaltoss 110
BeSt 86
ggaemo 29
NaDa 19
Dota 2
febbydoto6
League of Legends
C9.Mang0203
Counter-Strike
fl0m1505
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu674
Other Games
Grubby5829
tarik_tv3400
FrodaN1835
Beastyqt863
B2W.Neo267
ZombieGrub37
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 55
• Reevou 8
• Adnapsc2 5
• musti20045 2
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 38
• HerbMon 24
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• blackmanpl 0
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie5650
• Shiphtur276
Upcoming Events
OSC
14h 4m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.