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O_o this sounds awesome. And the teaser pictures are all crazy! I'm soooo hyped >.<! If I had to bet, I'd put all my money on this one, no way it could possibly be bad.
...It's quite possible the song will be bad. Not sure why you thought that sample sounded awesome. It just sounded like high pitched electronic screeching to me. Teaser pics have been the standard sexy concept fare. I'm really not understanding the excitement, other than hormones at work.
Look, it's basic fanboying. Nothing to understand really ^^. As for the music, I do like the electro kind of feel of this sample and SweetTune have produced great songs in the past, so there I got at least 2 reasons to be excited about the song. Come on, I'm sure you've been excited for a comeback before, you can understand =).
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On May 03 2013 14:33 XaI)CyRiC wrote: The T-ara N4 song isn't too bad as a dancy club track, but that performance was disappointing. Outfits were bad except for Jiyeon's, and they all looked tired and lacking energy during the performance, which is more noticeable for that song and choreography.
T-ara stages have lacked energy for a while now I think (might have something to do with KKS working them to death, dunno) and they just have no stage presence. Doesn't help that the choreo for this song is awful.
nah they were really energetic before yayaya I noticed the same thing happened to snsd after genie, all of their performances became really deadpan. I mean, disregarding differences in choreo, itnw performances were on a whole other level compared to the rdr ones. they're still putting in the effort, but that (childish? naive? passionate?) energy is missing. I think it has something to do with the psychology of the group; the drive to become successful is still there, but I guess that passionate desperation isn't there anymore. I think I articulated that really poorly and I sound kinda morbid.
anyways, I have this hypothesis that girl groups get shitty after they reach that aforementioned point, assuming they weren't shitty to begin with. And yes, I still liked RDR and likewise, I enjoyed several of t-ara's releases after yayaya, so I don't think it has anything to do with biases.
I'm sorry but what? Did you watch any of the IGAB performances? Twinkle? The Boys? They aren't 'deadpan' good lord.
gj bringing snsd up out of the blue though when talking about t-ara, standard kmd procedure.
O_o this sounds awesome. And the teaser pictures are all crazy! I'm soooo hyped >.<! If I had to bet, I'd put all my money on this one, no way it could possibly be bad.
...It's quite possible the song will be bad. Not sure why you thought that sample sounded awesome. It just sounded like high pitched electronic screeching to me. Teaser pics have been the standard sexy concept fare. I'm really not understanding the excitement, other than hormones at work.
Look, it's basic fanboying. Nothing to understand really ^^. As for the music, I do like the electro kind of feel of this sample and SweetTune have produced great songs in the past, so there I got at least 2 reasons to be excited about the song. Come on, I'm sure you've been excited for a comeback before, you can understand =).
haha yeah, I get it. Didn't know the part about SweetTune. Thanks for sharing. That's why I was wondering what in particular stood out about this 9Muse comeback. I just didn't see anything particularly unique in the promo materials so far. But I'll probably like it. I always like sexy concepts.
Good lord, the N4 choreo looks like they are having a seizure while dancing. Secret's choreo can be done by a 2 year old. Actually not done by a 2 year old, composed by a 2 year old. Time well spent watching the music show at 5am last night.
On May 04 2013 03:28 Fawkes wrote: Good lord, the N4 choreo looks like they are having a seizure while dancing. Secret's choreo can be done by a 2 year old. Actually not done by a 2 year old, composed by a 2 year old. Time well spent watching the music show at 5am last night.
Cutesy concept generally has much more simple and lower level of dance.
On May 03 2013 14:33 XaI)CyRiC wrote: The T-ara N4 song isn't too bad as a dancy club track, but that performance was disappointing. Outfits were bad except for Jiyeon's, and they all looked tired and lacking energy during the performance, which is more noticeable for that song and choreography.
T-ara stages have lacked energy for a while now I think (might have something to do with KKS working them to death, dunno) and they just have no stage presence. Doesn't help that the choreo for this song is awful.
nah they were really energetic before yayaya I noticed the same thing happened to snsd after genie, all of their performances became really deadpan. I mean, disregarding differences in choreo, itnw performances were on a whole other level compared to the rdr ones. they're still putting in the effort, but that (childish? naive? passionate?) energy is missing. I think it has something to do with the psychology of the group; the drive to become successful is still there, but I guess that passionate desperation isn't there anymore. I think I articulated that really poorly and I sound kinda morbid.
anyways, I have this hypothesis that girl groups get shitty after they reach that aforementioned point, assuming they weren't shitty to begin with. And yes, I still liked RDR and likewise, I enjoyed several of t-ara's releases after yayaya, so I don't think it has anything to do with biases.
I'm sorry but what? Did you watch any of the IGAB performances? Twinkle? The Boys? They aren't 'deadpan' good lord.
gj bringing snsd up out of the blue though when talking about t-ara, standard kmd procedure.
it's an honest opinion. haven't watched any of the igab perfs but I did watch everything (minus the jap stuff) SNSD performed after RDR, up through the boys until igab. there's a reason why I singled them out as well; no other group has gotten to the point where it seems like no matter what they put out, it will sell. on that tangent, Kara and WG fit the bill but don't display what I've mentioned.
this may be just something that only I seem to notice.
I'm not sure about the others here, but I was a fan of snsd before; you seriously need to get off this ridiculous "we're always getting persecuted" persona every time anyone has anything near a criticism for the group.
I suppose choreo composed by a 2 year old can be considered simple. I consider it stupid. A fucking joke. At least have a 3 year old compose the choreo so it isn't cringeworthy. Or don't even bother doing a cute concept after waving their crotch around not so long ago.
@Andy: xDDDDDDDDDD, we must not watch the same performances. If SNSD performances are energyless as you say, then good lord, what are these other low tier girl groups doing then?
On May 03 2013 14:33 XaI)CyRiC wrote: The T-ara N4 song isn't too bad as a dancy club track, but that performance was disappointing. Outfits were bad except for Jiyeon's, and they all looked tired and lacking energy during the performance, which is more noticeable for that song and choreography.
T-ara stages have lacked energy for a while now I think (might have something to do with KKS working them to death, dunno) and they just have no stage presence. Doesn't help that the choreo for this song is awful.
nah they were really energetic before yayaya I noticed the same thing happened to snsd after genie, all of their performances became really deadpan. I mean, disregarding differences in choreo, itnw performances were on a whole other level compared to the rdr ones. they're still putting in the effort, but that (childish? naive? passionate?) energy is missing. I think it has something to do with the psychology of the group; the drive to become successful is still there, but I guess that passionate desperation isn't there anymore. I think I articulated that really poorly and I sound kinda morbid.
anyways, I have this hypothesis that girl groups get shitty after they reach that aforementioned point, assuming they weren't shitty to begin with. And yes, I still liked RDR and likewise, I enjoyed several of t-ara's releases after yayaya, so I don't think it has anything to do with biases.
I'm sorry but what? Did you watch any of the IGAB performances? Twinkle? The Boys? They aren't 'deadpan' good lord.
gj bringing snsd up out of the blue though when talking about t-ara, standard kmd procedure.
it's an honest opinion. haven't watched any of the igab perfs but I did watch everything (minus the jap stuff) SNSD performed after RDR, up through the boys until igab. there's a reason why I singled them out as well; no other group has gotten to the point where it seems like no matter what they put out, it will sell. on that tangent, Kara and WG fit the bill but don't display what I've mentioned.
this may be just something that only I seem to notice.
I'm not sure about the others here, but I was a fan of snsd before; you seriously need to get off this ridiculous "we're always getting persecuted" persona every time anyone has anything near a criticism for the group.
I don't get what you're saying about Kara and WG though. Are you saying they are at the level where they can put out crap and it will still sell? Or are you saying they don't perform 'deadpan' like SNSD? If the first, that's just not true considering they both have terrible sales. If the second, I take it you didn't watch either of their latest comebacks either, just like you didn't watch SNSD's, yet you still consider yourself to have an 'honest opinion' even though you admit yourself you didn't even watch them perform. Either way, it's just stupid.
I don't have a 'we're being persecuted' persona. I have a 'need to point out obvious bullshit' persona.
On May 03 2013 14:33 XaI)CyRiC wrote: The T-ara N4 song isn't too bad as a dancy club track, but that performance was disappointing. Outfits were bad except for Jiyeon's, and they all looked tired and lacking energy during the performance, which is more noticeable for that song and choreography.
T-ara stages have lacked energy for a while now I think (might have something to do with KKS working them to death, dunno) and they just have no stage presence. Doesn't help that the choreo for this song is awful.
nah they were really energetic before yayaya I noticed the same thing happened to snsd after genie, all of their performances became really deadpan. I mean, disregarding differences in choreo, itnw performances were on a whole other level compared to the rdr ones. they're still putting in the effort, but that (childish? naive? passionate?) energy is missing. I think it has something to do with the psychology of the group; the drive to become successful is still there, but I guess that passionate desperation isn't there anymore. I think I articulated that really poorly and I sound kinda morbid.
anyways, I have this hypothesis that girl groups get shitty after they reach that aforementioned point, assuming they weren't shitty to begin with. And yes, I still liked RDR and likewise, I enjoyed several of t-ara's releases after yayaya, so I don't think it has anything to do with biases.
I'm sorry but what? Did you watch any of the IGAB performances? Twinkle? The Boys? They aren't 'deadpan' good lord.
gj bringing snsd up out of the blue though when talking about t-ara, standard kmd procedure.
it's an honest opinion. haven't watched any of the igab perfs but I did watch everything (minus the jap stuff) SNSD performed after RDR, up through the boys until igab. there's a reason why I singled them out as well; no other group has gotten to the point where it seems like no matter what they put out, it will sell. on that tangent, Kara and WG fit the bill but don't display what I've mentioned.
this may be just something that only I seem to notice.
I'm not sure about the others here, but I was a fan of snsd before; you seriously need to get off this ridiculous "we're always getting persecuted" persona every time anyone has anything near a criticism for the group.
I don't get what you're saying about Kara and WG though. Are you saying they are at the level where they can put out crap and it will still sell? Or are you saying they don't perform 'deadpan' like SNSD? If the first, that's just not true considering they both have terrible sales. If the second, I take it you didn't watch either of their latest comebacks either, just like you didn't watch SNSD's, yet you still consider yourself to have an 'honest opinion' even though you admit yourself you didn't even watch them perform. Either way, it's just stupid.
I don't have a 'we're being persecuted' persona. I have a 'need to point out obvious bullshit' persona.
lol, WG. When was the last time they did anything of significance in South Korea? other than disbanding rumors cuz wedding?
IGAB performances were pretty standard stuff; dunno about "deadpan" per say, but not the same level of enthusiasm as in the past.
On May 04 2013 02:55 DystopiaX wrote: As a general note to the thread can we make sure that we continue to spoiler all quoted videos? People have been slipping as of late and it really increases the load time for pages.
It has absolutely no effect on load times. It's just annoying.
On May 03 2013 14:33 XaI)CyRiC wrote: The T-ara N4 song isn't too bad as a dancy club track, but that performance was disappointing. Outfits were bad except for Jiyeon's, and they all looked tired and lacking energy during the performance, which is more noticeable for that song and choreography.
T-ara stages have lacked energy for a while now I think (might have something to do with KKS working them to death, dunno) and they just have no stage presence. Doesn't help that the choreo for this song is awful.
nah they were really energetic before yayaya I noticed the same thing happened to snsd after genie, all of their performances became really deadpan. I mean, disregarding differences in choreo, itnw performances were on a whole other level compared to the rdr ones. they're still putting in the effort, but that (childish? naive? passionate?) energy is missing. I think it has something to do with the psychology of the group; the drive to become successful is still there, but I guess that passionate desperation isn't there anymore. I think I articulated that really poorly and I sound kinda morbid.
anyways, I have this hypothesis that girl groups get shitty after they reach that aforementioned point, assuming they weren't shitty to begin with. And yes, I still liked RDR and likewise, I enjoyed several of t-ara's releases after yayaya, so I don't think it has anything to do with biases.
I'm sorry but what? Did you watch any of the IGAB performances? Twinkle? The Boys? They aren't 'deadpan' good lord.
gj bringing snsd up out of the blue though when talking about t-ara, standard kmd procedure.
it's an honest opinion. haven't watched any of the igab perfs but I did watch everything (minus the jap stuff) SNSD performed after RDR, up through the boys until igab. there's a reason why I singled them out as well; no other group has gotten to the point where it seems like no matter what they put out, it will sell. on that tangent, Kara and WG fit the bill but don't display what I've mentioned.
this may be just something that only I seem to notice.
I'm not sure about the others here, but I was a fan of snsd before; you seriously need to get off this ridiculous "we're always getting persecuted" persona every time anyone has anything near a criticism for the group.
I don't get what you're saying about Kara and WG though. Are you saying they are at the level where they can put out crap and it will still sell? Or are you saying they don't perform 'deadpan' like SNSD? If the first, that's just not true considering they both have terrible sales. If the second, I take it you didn't watch either of their latest comebacks either, just like you didn't watch SNSD's, yet you still consider yourself to have an 'honest opinion' even though you admit yourself you didn't even watch them perform. Either way, it's just stupid.
I don't have a 'we're being persecuted' persona. I have a 'need to point out obvious bullshit' persona.
First, you obviously didn't read my post. I said they've lost that aura of energy (?) since RDR, so me not watching IGAB has little to do with this. Otherwise, I'll take your word for whatever you see in their performances albeit it being incredibly biased. Secondly, I raised Kara and WG as examples of tier-1 groups that might be comparable to either SNSD or T-ara, but don't really display the 'lack of energy' that I see in the latter groups.
Deadpan might have been a strong word, but frankly, I'm having a hard time trying to adequately characterize my observations with the right words/diction.
Also, I said it was 'an honest opinion' because I assumed you were having an overreaction to what you perceived as 'oh look it's a anti-sone flame', which, I think it's fair to say happens quite often.
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