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Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
November 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#86421
Why does it fucking take so long for them to sub episode 3 of romantic and idol... christ it's been out for like 4 days.
Yuri Victoria LMJ ~♥
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
November 29 2012 20:10 GMT
#86422
Best Secret song is the one where the choreo isn't 4 girls acting like they have no muscle control.
HOLY CHECK!
Sc2zero7
Profile Joined February 2012
United States574 Posts
November 29 2012 20:33 GMT
#86423
On November 30 2012 05:01 Synapze wrote:
Why does it fucking take so long for them to sub episode 3 of romantic and idol... christ it's been out for like 4 days.


Have you ever subbed an hour long episode before? I wouldn't take the subbers for granted.
Limpet
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom163 Posts
November 29 2012 20:40 GMT
#86424
It usually takes KShowNow a little while to sub shows that aren't Running Man and We Got Married. I guess its their third priority, which IY2 used to be before it ended. Seen that come out as late as Friday so shouldn't be too long before we see the release I guess.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 20:53:20
November 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#86425
On November 30 2012 05:01 Synapze wrote:
Why does it fucking take so long for them to sub episode 3 of romantic and idol... christ it's been out for like 4 days.

Have you done subwork before? Son it's time consuming.
God Bless
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 29 2012 21:04 GMT
#86426
On November 30 2012 05:10 Lonyo wrote:
Best Secret song is the one where the choreo isn't 4 girls acting like they have no muscle control.

lmao

So that means I Want You Back right? In terms of title songs it's certainly my favorite.
Doulmaigus
Profile Joined October 2012
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 22:15:30
November 29 2012 21:08 GMT
#86427
I can aprove this. I take an afternoon to sub a full 15 minutes show. Now I'm not saying I'm a reference in therm of efficiency, but I can easily imagine that an hour long show can take 4 days or more to sub.
(And anyways, bitching about a voluntary work? Really?) edit : I forgot about all the adds, my bad!

And about my favorite SECRET song, I think it's Shy Boy too. It's damn catchy and Zinger has a nice rap part in it. But really I have almost all the SECRET discography in my folder, I have a hard time finding bad songs from them ^^.

On November 30 2012 04:53 chesshaha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 00:09 Limpet wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

And we have the Secret teaser. Hyosung in a bath, yes please. Anyway, I know the audio during teasers isn't always a good indication of what the track will be like, but sounds fairly balad'esque. Surprising seeing as its a Shinsadong Tiger track.


Looks cool, but it needs more Zinger. ;x


Agreed!
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
November 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#86428
Normally I'd agree that complaining about subs taking a while to be released is stupid and ungrateful. However this is Kshownow we are talking about, the absolute lowest quality, mistake-filled, shit subs you can possibly get. The fact that they don't release in a few days is pretty bad considering how god awful their subs are.

Also, they most definitely are not voluntary sub work. They make money off their trash.

I like Starlight Moonlight from Secret
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
November 29 2012 21:34 GMT
#86429
I vouch for Shy Boy being #1, Starlight Moonlight close second ez.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:50:58
November 29 2012 21:49 GMT
#86430
Starlight Moonlight is by far their best title track. These are in my opinion their best ones though.

(3 years 6 months)

+ Show Spoiler +








They have a few songs that are pretty unremarkable but get a lot better when performed live. Which is a shame because they only performed them once or twice each..
+ Show Spoiler +



http://fiddle.se/ - @klogglol
klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 21:50:43
November 29 2012 21:50 GMT
#86431
Double post.
http://fiddle.se/ - @klogglol
Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 22:07:48
November 29 2012 22:07 GMT
#86432
On November 30 2012 05:53 Roffles wrote:
Have you done subwork before? Son it's time consuming.


Why? You get someone who speaks two languages fluently. It would be like you transcribing something I spoke to you. It's really not very difficult for someone with a strong knowledge of the languages.

It should take 1 person maybe a little over an hour. And don't give me that shit that they have to come up with perfect translations cause the subs are mediocre at best and barely synced.

The only possible delay would be putting the actual subs in the video. Somehow I doubt that is very hard.
Yuri Victoria LMJ ~♥
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
November 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#86433
subbing is actually pretty time consuming
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AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 22:19:05
November 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#86434
On November 30 2012 07:07 Synapze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:53 Roffles wrote:
Have you done subwork before? Son it's time consuming.


Why? You get someone who speaks two languages fluently. It would be like you transcribing something I spoke to you. It's really not very difficult for someone with a strong knowledge of the languages.

It should take 1 person maybe a little over an hour. And don't give me that shit that they have to come up with perfect translations cause the subs are mediocre at best and barely synced.

The only possible delay would be putting the actual subs in the video. Somehow I doubt that is very hard.

Do you even speak any other languages? It's rarely a word to word translation, and often phrases or sentences convey ideas that barely translate into other languages. Even translating in person is hit-or-miss and often loses half the context in a conversation. So no, you don't just "listen to someone talking and write English".

Edit: Not to mention that if you speak 2 languages fluently enough to follow an hour long show and translate perfectly, you probably have a job and aren't doing shit like this in your free time. Subbers are probably like 2 dudes in their basements who learned Korean online.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
November 29 2012 22:21 GMT
#86435
Hello Venus at some recent shindig (no Yoonjo):

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Yoo Ara fancam] +

+ Show Spoiler [Alice fancam] +

+ Show Spoiler [don't know her name's cam] +
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 29 2012 22:24 GMT
#86436
The last girl is Nara. She was better in the Venus MV when she had the short red hair, imo. Thought it was cute.

Lime's hair is really poofy in that pic, makes me smile.
It's your boy Guzma!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 29 2012 22:24 GMT
#86437
On November 30 2012 07:07 Synapze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:53 Roffles wrote:
Have you done subwork before? Son it's time consuming.


Why? You get someone who speaks two languages fluently. It would be like you transcribing something I spoke to you. It's really not very difficult for someone with a strong knowledge of the languages.

It should take 1 person maybe a little over an hour. And don't give me that shit that they have to come up with perfect translations cause the subs are mediocre at best and barely synced.

The only possible delay would be putting the actual subs in the video. Somehow I doubt that is very hard.

you're talking out of your ass
it's an extremely long process. even with a full team I've heard it takes 6 times as long for every hour of content, and that's assuming the team is present and working nonstop.
there's translation, timing, spot translation for those random moments they speak other languages/difficult idioms or words, typesetting, editing, and proofreading.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 29 2012 22:29 GMT
#86438
On November 30 2012 07:07 Synapze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:53 Roffles wrote:
Have you done subwork before? Son it's time consuming.


Why? You get someone who speaks two languages fluently. It would be like you transcribing something I spoke to you. It's really not very difficult for someone with a strong knowledge of the languages.

It should take 1 person maybe a little over an hour. And don't give me that shit that they have to come up with perfect translations cause the subs are mediocre at best and barely synced.

The only possible delay would be putting the actual subs in the video. Somehow I doubt that is very hard.


Subbing involves more than one individual. There are translators, timers, editors, and quality control. The team typically is in different timezones and typically are not fluent in both languages, the individuals also typically have real life responsibilities.

Don't be such an entitled douchebag.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
November 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#86439
On November 30 2012 07:07 Synapze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 05:53 Roffles wrote:
Have you done subwork before? Son it's time consuming.


Why? You get someone who speaks two languages fluently. It would be like you transcribing something I spoke to you. It's really not very difficult for someone with a strong knowledge of the languages.

It should take 1 person maybe a little over an hour. And don't give me that shit that they have to come up with perfect translations cause the subs are mediocre at best and barely synced.

The only possible delay would be putting the actual subs in the video. Somehow I doubt that is very hard.

Uhh yeah, dude you really have no idea what you're talking about.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 22:41:22
November 29 2012 22:40 GMT
#86440
translating is the easiest and quickest part, you should ask nickson how long he has to spend doing everything else

ps romantic ep3 is up seeyou in an hour for tears
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