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Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
October 29 2012 18:44 GMT
#83561
lived around asians all my life

being asian
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 29 2012 18:47 GMT
#83562
kpop girls are better looking on average, that's why.
liftlift > tsm
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 29 2012 18:48 GMT
#83563
On October 30 2012 03:22 aloT wrote:
Out of curiosity, why is it that the rest of you got into kpop and not jpop? Was it mostly because of bw/sc2? I watched my first anime/manga and knew lots about Japan long, long before I ever laid eyes on jessica. When I think about it I cant understand why kpop and Korean culture sucked me into oblivion while jpop and Japanese culture remained a far away novelty


I actually got into Jpop at first.. Listened to Goto maki and Aya Ueto a ton... Then Goto maki went inactive or some shit and I completely stopped listening to it then I started again but was like nothing good and randomly stumbled upon Into The New World on youtube and then from there
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Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 19:06:27
October 29 2012 19:04 GMT
#83564
Japanese sounds bad in song. Japanese is the German of asia (a bit abrupt), Chinese is the French (too flowery) and Korean is the English (but more pleasing to the ear imo).

Did Judo as a kid and was sorta into manga after watching Akira at an older friend's house when I was 10 or so, and for the Chinese I have about 30 Jackie Chan flicks on video in my mother's loft and did wing chun for a while before I decided it was a waste of time.

It's my love of the language that keeps me interested in Korean media. The girl's aren't bad looking either. I was introduced to Kpop through a crazy korean guy I know from a now dead online game, didn't just randomly stumble upon it, and it took a bit of convincing.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 29 2012 19:05 GMT
#83565
On October 30 2012 03:22 aloT wrote:
Out of curiosity, why is it that the rest of you got into kpop and not jpop? Was it mostly because of bw/sc2? I watched my first anime/manga and knew lots about Japan long, long before I ever laid eyes on jessica. When I think about it I cant understand why kpop and Korean culture sucked me into oblivion while jpop and Japanese culture remained a far away novelty

Well when you listen to anime, you start off with the terrible anime theme jpop generally, which is pretty much the bottom of the barrel.
I'm into other japanese music, but not jpop for the most part, apart from a handful of artists. Too much rubbish to filter through really.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#83566
On October 30 2012 04:04 Vorgrim wrote:
Japanese sounds bad in song. Japanese is the German of asia (a bit abrupt), Chinese is the French (too flowery) and Korean is the English (but more pleasing to the ear imo).

Did Judo as a kid and was sorta into manga after watching Akira at an older friend's house when I was 10 or so, and for the Chinese I have about 30 Jackie Chan flicks on video in my mother's loft and did wing chun for a while before I decided it was a waste of time.

It's my love of the language that keeps me interested in Korean media. The girl's aren't bad looking either. I was introduced to Kpop through a crazy korean guy I know from a now dead online game, didn't just randomly stumble upon it, and it took a bit of convincing.

I actually like the way Japanese sounds in song, although Korean does sound better IMO.

On October 29 2012 21:05 klogg wrote:
I wish the reddit guys could keep their reddit stuff on reddit.

This, but just dumb shit from other sites in general. I'm glad people stopped quoting random AKP articles too, but seriously there's no reason people should be linking to "LOOK AT THIS GIRL TALKING BOUT WHY KPOP SHOULD BE BIG" or that group shit.

My older sister is into Cpop and kpop, but less from an idol fangirling angle and more that she just listens to the music. My little sister is a big EXO-K and SJ fan and also watches a ton of kdramas. I discovered kpop before BW/SC2, had a bunch of Korean friends in middle school/high school so it was always kind of there even if I didn't actually listen to it a bunch. Then got super into it of course.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
October 29 2012 19:18 GMT
#83567
I dont think anime music is bottom of the barrel, in fact I'm sure the guys from both the anime and japanese music threads would guillotine you for that! you see the best of the best in jpop make ost's for animes just as the kpop idols make ost's for kdramas. The difference is that I find that overwhelmingly all drama OST's are melancholy, while there is alot of variation in anime.

dystopia does such a thing as idols even exist in HK/CN? I have never heard or seen the music
Spender
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland76 Posts
October 29 2012 19:24 GMT
#83568
On October 30 2012 03:22 aloT wrote:
Out of curiosity, why is it that the rest of you got into kpop and not jpop? Was it mostly because of bw/sc2? I watched my first anime/manga and knew lots about Japan long, long before I ever laid eyes on jessica. When I think about it I cant understand why kpop and Korean culture sucked me into oblivion while jpop and Japanese culture remained a far away novelty

I never was much into manga/anime type of stuff so I never got exposed to jpop really. Other then some WoW fanvid, The art of war: Blind I think it was called. It had some jpop tune in it, got me interested enough to google it and listen to it a couple of times. But that was it. Right after SC2 came out I watched a lot of streams. I heard 2ne1's Fire on HuK's stream. It snowballed from there.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
October 29 2012 19:24 GMT
#83569
C-pop is like all ballads lol. So samey. Pretty much every decent artist is Taiwanese.
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
October 29 2012 19:27 GMT
#83570
I listen to some jpop songs here and there, but in general I don't really like the sound of japanese in music. I think it sounds too... high pitched/light, if that makes any sense? ^-^
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 29 2012 19:29 GMT
#83571
On October 30 2012 04:18 aloT wrote:
I dont think anime music is bottom of the barrel, in fact I'm sure the guys from both the anime and japanese music threads would guillotine you for that! you see the best of the best in jpop make ost's for animes just as the kpop idols make ost's for kdramas. The difference is that I find that overwhelmingly all drama OST's are melancholy, while there is alot of variation in anime.

dystopia does such a thing as idols even exist in HK/CN? I have never heard or seen the music

She listens to a lot of Taiwanese pop so Cpop may not be the right term, but there are as far as I know- I don't pay that much attention. She listens to a lot of ballads over pop though so idk.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 19:36:00
October 29 2012 19:34 GMT
#83572
On October 30 2012 04:24 seRapH wrote:
C-pop is like all ballads lol. So samey. Pretty much every decent artist is Taiwanese.

Jay Chou pretty much the only chinese music i know/listen to.
I like intro's to anime, there are a couple that are quite good.
liftlift > tsm
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 29 2012 19:41 GMT
#83573
On October 30 2012 04:04 Vorgrim wrote:
Japanese sounds bad in song. Japanese is the German of asia (a bit abrupt), Chinese is the French (too flowery) and Korean is the English (but more pleasing to the ear imo).

Did Judo as a kid and was sorta into manga after watching Akira at an older friend's house when I was 10 or so, and for the Chinese I have about 30 Jackie Chan flicks on video in my mother's loft and did wing chun for a while before I decided it was a waste of time.

It's my love of the language that keeps me interested in Korean media. The girl's aren't bad looking either. I was introduced to Kpop through a crazy korean guy I know from a now dead online game, didn't just randomly stumble upon it, and it took a bit of convincing.


This is like completely opposite of what I think. When sung, Korean sounds the best, with Japanese coming second and then Chinese coming third.

When spoken, however, Japanese is definitely the best-sounding, with Korean second (formal speech trumping colloquial imo), and Chinese (Mandarin > Cantonese) a far, far, faaaaaaaaaaaaar away last. Whenever my relatives speak Cantonese it always sounds like they want to beat each other with sticks, even though in actuality, they're having quite a pleasant and light conversation.
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aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
October 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#83574
I totally agree. Cantonese sounds like the German of Asia. You can say the loveliest thing in the world and it still sounds like a passive aggressive diss. Korean is in the middle, Mandarin sounds very nice when sung, but becomes rough when spoken. Japanese is pleasant both to speak and to hear.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
October 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#83575
The one thing I can't stand is rapping in Japanese or Mandarin. Like holy shit it sounds terrible.

Canto rap is okish tho. Korean rap #1
boomer hands
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
October 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#83576
On October 30 2012 03:44 Pulselol wrote:
lived around asians all my life

being asian

can i be your token white kid
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#83577
lol vorgrim, german is a beautiful language :D

I know what you mean though, the comparison is kinda meh though imo japanese sounds pretty decent, admittedly I don't listen to Jpop and only have my samplesize from anime OST/Openings/Endings but those are pretty damn good.
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
October 29 2012 20:34 GMT
#83578
On October 30 2012 03:47 wei2coolman wrote:
kpop girls are better looking on average, that's why.


^ This was a big reason i got into k-pop.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 29 2012 20:43 GMT
#83579
On October 30 2012 01:02 Craton wrote:
It's hilarious how overblown the reaction to Epik High was. They had some good songs and some bad songs just like all of their previous albums and just about every album ever released.

no.
This was far and away their worst album, regardless of the change in direction.
I feel like you don't grasp the concept that Epik High isn't supposed to be a kpop group. Either that or you don't listen to the group in general.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 20:56:14
October 29 2012 20:52 GMT
#83580
I don't care what you feel.

The reaction is vastly overblown because you all set yourself up for the "OH GOD THEY'RE SELLING OUT" bullshit. Congratulations on your self-fulfilling prophecy. You hate it because you expected to before it ever came out and the second you heard one song you didn't like you immediately used it to affirm your pre-conceived belief.

The album, like every other album on the planet had its good songs, its bad songs, and its mediocre songs. It had songs that were like many of the past songs and songs that weren't.

Tough shit that you don't like it because it isn't identical to their first album from 9 years ago. Neither were any of their other albums.

Learn to see past your own internal biases and you'll find there are good songs on the album.
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