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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
October 29 2012 22:22 GMT
#83601
i started with jpop back in 2000 or something, only listening to kpop since like 08 but nowadays i listen to like 90% kpop

oh and klogg, dont make the mistake that like everyone and their mother does, your opinion is hardly the truth, just because u think xyz lp is bad doesnt mean "its the truth" -_- such overall statements just make u look pretty *****
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
October 29 2012 22:23 GMT
#83602
On October 30 2012 07:03 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 03:22 aloT wrote:
Out of curiosity, why is it that the rest of you got into kpop and not jpop? Was it mostly because of bw/sc2? I watched my first anime/manga and knew lots about Japan long, long before I ever laid eyes on jessica. When I think about it I cant understand why kpop and Korean culture sucked me into oblivion while jpop and Japanese culture remained a far away novelty

Kpop has generally been more catchy than Jpop for me, plus a lot of Jpop idols are fucking weird (link to pon pon here). Korean culture doesn't feel nearly as wtf insane as Japanese does most of the time, though that's also enjoyable from time to time.

I really get into some parts of Japanese culture, being a (mainly RPG) gamer and an anime and manga fan, of course, aside from Kpop and eSports there's really not much about Korea that draws me.


well I've only watched one japanese variety show and my only impression from that is that jpop idol girls are alot more liberal on all things cheerfulness, makeup, clothing and boob size. i dont know how horribly unfair i just was to all the other jpop idols
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
October 29 2012 22:23 GMT
#83603
On October 30 2012 06:59 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 06:53 Kipsate wrote:
Didn't they say YG was going to debut a new girl group

whatever happened to that.


YG too busy with Psy having huge success and BigBang doing their world tour also comeback for 2ne1 soon, girlgroups pushed back till early next year.

Didn't PSY leave YG for some label in the states?
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:31:34
October 29 2012 22:27 GMT
#83604
Psy is still with YG. He signed with Scooter Braun to produce his American album.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 29 2012 22:27 GMT
#83605
On October 30 2012 07:23 aloT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 07:03 Requizen wrote:
On October 30 2012 03:22 aloT wrote:
Out of curiosity, why is it that the rest of you got into kpop and not jpop? Was it mostly because of bw/sc2? I watched my first anime/manga and knew lots about Japan long, long before I ever laid eyes on jessica. When I think about it I cant understand why kpop and Korean culture sucked me into oblivion while jpop and Japanese culture remained a far away novelty

Kpop has generally been more catchy than Jpop for me, plus a lot of Jpop idols are fucking weird (link to pon pon here). Korean culture doesn't feel nearly as wtf insane as Japanese does most of the time, though that's also enjoyable from time to time.

I really get into some parts of Japanese culture, being a (mainly RPG) gamer and an anime and manga fan, of course, aside from Kpop and eSports there's really not much about Korea that draws me.


well I've only watched one japanese variety show and my only impression from that is that jpop idol girls are alot more liberal on all things cheerfulness, makeup, clothing and boob size. i dont know how horribly unfair i just was to all the other jpop idols

Hmmm, I'm not quite sure how the japanese music industry works, but as far as I can tell the Korean music industry is really organized. There's a lot of face time with their idols through music show performances/ variety shows/dramas/etc etc etc, which makes kpop really easy to get into.
liftlift > tsm
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 29 2012 22:29 GMT
#83606
I'm pretty sure thats his American label, he still under YG in Korea.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Doulmaigus
Profile Joined October 2012
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:40:40
October 29 2012 22:39 GMT
#83607
On October 30 2012 02:38 Synapze wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
So this is only slightly kpop related but I don't know who to share my story with atm..

So I thought I was home alone and I was watching vampire diaries/we got married and enjoying my morning (I hadn't left my room yet). I had heard my mom and brother leave for school/work so I assumed I had the house to myself.. So as usual I am fangirling over girls day/miss a, freestyle rapping and beatboxing dubstep type shit at full volume...

I went full retard. I make my own weird lyrics formed from words I like or some shit... and scream like a schoolgirl when romantic scenes happen.. so this carried on for over an hour with nobody saying shit.

I was out of my room in my boxers screaming "SMACK YA BOOTY LIKE A LOCH NESS PIMP" while throwing out gangster hand signs and dancing only to find my mom and her bf staring at me mouths wide open trying to hold back their laughter,, unsuccessfully.

I scream, run back into my cave, dive under my blanket and pretend nothing happened. I can't leave. I can't look anyone in the face ever again..


Damn that's hard. You will have to get over it one day. I know it's way easier to say it than to do it, but, if they laugh at you, just take a shit on their forehead. They will remember it, no doubt, but the awkwardness will pass.

I've got caught up listening (not fanboying) to Kpop once, it was my dad. Since then he has a few Kpop songs in his playlist ^^. No one else knows though, even my closest friends. I guess they are not that close to me since I can't tell them. They didn't knew about Kpop since PSY's Gangnam Style (just like tons of people), and they still think it's kinda cheap.

I have a story though. One night with these friends we put PSY on and I got an idea. I proposed to everyone "Okay, let's start from PSY on Youtube, and watch everything in the video suggestion bar !", and surprisingly, everyone got excited about it. So we did that, and it was the funniest, yet the weirdest party I had with them. I acted all the way like I was new to it, trying to make bad biased reactions like "OMG is this really a guy ?!" or "I can't believe that there is people who actualy know all their names ! I can barely recognize them !". Still, we had a ton of fun and we enjoyed the music. I almost got caught off guard when I began to sing a song along. Everyone were getting drunk, that's what made me do it, that's also what saved me xD. My inner self couldn't stop laughing.

I think I should feel kind of guilty for acting in front of my friends, but now that we've done this, whenever I find the balls to tell them, I can say that it all started there. If it is, some of them got into it since then too xD.

On October 30 2012 03:22 aloT wrote:
Out of curiosity, why is it that the rest of you got into kpop and not jpop? Was it mostly because of bw/sc2? I watched my first anime/manga and knew lots about Japan long, long before I ever laid eyes on jessica. When I think about it I cant understand why kpop and Korean culture sucked me into oblivion while jpop and Japanese culture remained a far away novelty


I personaly prefer how angul sounds, even if I don't dislike Japanese. But I remember something I read in an article that sums up exactly how I feel about Jpop.

For pervy, try the J-pop group AKB48, a Japanese girl ensemble, with scores of members, who, affecting a schoolgirls-in-lingerie look in their video “Heavy Rotation,” pillow-fight, kiss, and share heart-shaped cookies mouth to mouth. Girls’ Generation is a group of preppy-looking young women in skinny trousers. When they wear hot pants, it’s to display the gams, not the glutes.


Full article HERE. Though I think it's a repost.
Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:53:53
October 29 2012 22:52 GMT
#83608
On October 30 2012 07:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Hmmm, I'm not quite sure how the japanese music industry works, but as far as I can tell the Korean music industry is really organized. There's a lot of face time with their idols through music show performances/ variety shows/dramas/etc etc etc, which makes kpop really easy to get into.


Mainstream K-Pop was pretty much a carbon copy of the J-Pop idol system from the training systems, to the variety shows but a bit more tame.
Look up AKB48 and their fan handshake meeting incidents if you want some fun.

In the same sense, there's a lot of quality artists if you can weed through the crap AKB and all their subgroups, all the generic androgynous Visual Kei bands put out and all the shoddy Anime OSTs.
This is probably my favourite Jap song. I disagree that it sounds much worse than Korean though. Also Pianist with an afro.
+ Show Spoiler [Afro-Pianist] +




Urban Zakapa did an interview for their new album if anyone's interested
http://www.hellokpop.com/2012/10/30/urban-zakapa-takes-part-in-interview-for-new-album-02/
Jollypong ~ RIP KHAN / NSHoSeo | o v e r r a t e d g a m e r
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 22:55:33
October 29 2012 22:54 GMT
#83609
I have learned to enjoy Epik High's new album. I just think of them as Epik High 2.0, new boy group debuted 2012. Way different from the original, but still enjoyable.

Edit: dbg so butthurt
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:20:13
October 29 2012 23:15 GMT
#83610
While visiting a site I was searching stuff and by way of luck 한소아 was saved on my ctrl-v
I found these and don't care if its a repost.
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


edit: @Fawkes, Yep needs to be seen
2. Minus let me down it re sizes for embeds http://minus.com/mh9ypBb5kRB7E true resolution there
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
October 29 2012 23:16 GMT
#83611
There we go again.

"Don't care if it's a repost" attitude again.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:28:16
October 29 2012 23:19 GMT
#83612
On October 30 2012 05:52 Craton wrote:
I don't care what you feel.

The reaction is vastly overblown because you all set yourself up for the "OH GOD THEY'RE SELLING OUT" bullshit. Congratulations on your self-fulfilling prophecy. You hate it because you expected to before it ever came out and the second you heard one song you didn't like you immediately used it to affirm your pre-conceived belief.

The album, like every other album on the planet had its good songs, its bad songs, and its mediocre songs. It had songs that were like many of the past songs and songs that weren't.

Tough shit that you don't like it because it isn't identical to their first album from 9 years ago. Neither were any of their other albums.

Learn to see past your own internal biases and you'll find there are good songs on the album.

how do I hold all of your logic loops? I'll refrain from being mundane and answer the core of what you're actually asking, because your argument is based off a ton of assumptions and, from what I can tell from your posts, misinterpretation of their music thus far.

for the rest of the average community, maybe it's an overreaction, much as your own view of their reactions is an overreaction.
for some other long-time fans and I, definitely not.

If you're a fan, you'd know that this is not the first time that they've changed the direction of their music. Every album concept has slightly shifted, and Epilogue was the one of the biggest shifts before 99.
For one, is it because I hate that 'every album doesn't sound the same'? (pause for a sec; that's such a misinformed statement. and it isn't because I want everything to have the same sound, I loved epilogue but hated swan songs, etc.)
No, it's because their new style simply takes off of every other band out there right now, and it's always something that they've strove to avoid.
Now it sounds like something Big Bang would produce, and in all senses of that statement, it's true. All of the producers credited on the album come from YG who've also previously worked on Big Bang albums.
Is this to say that the album is bad because of the pervasive YG touches heard on every track? By kpop standards, or by BB standards, the album itself is pretty decent, maybe higher than average. Compared to a work of art like Pieces, Part 1, this album is completely garbage.

In a sense, the bar is raised because you expect so much more out of this group, and I put them on that pedestal for a reason.
Why do people, yourself included, compare every T-ara release to Absolute First?
Because it sets the fucking bar. I can argue that specific album and its corresponding repackage set the new high for mainstream kpop.

Epik High dropping an album after a 2 year hiatus isn't like "lol we snsd we come bak afta 4months in Nippon to drop a single errbody gonna like dis shit even tho it aint intw no more."
You have expectations ofc, but you understand the group may change after such a long time.
As fans, you try hard to like the group that's changed and evolved (devolved huehue) because it's your favorite group. You attempt to come up with excuses for the group so you can continue to like them.

You view 'Up' and you say to yourself "well this shit is fucking whack but this only a single! it dun matta if the album is fantastic!"
Then you view '춥다' and you're like "well this is closer but this still that soft Winter's End shit and it ain't too hot but I guess I can fuck wit it."
Then the album drops and you're just straight up "I'M SO APPALLED S M H"
Maybe an ok track with 아까워, and the rest is Big Bangesque tracks? album is beyond redemption.

And one track with Tukutz?
Wait let me emphasize that once again. ONE. OUT OF TEN.
This isn't even Epik High anymore. This is like Alex and Horan jerking around on their own without Clazzi.

And that's the crux; this album isn't even an Epik High production anymore, it's just another kpop album.

For this Big Bang album I'd give it 4 slaps outta 5.

On October 30 2012 06:20 dbg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 05:52 Craton wrote:
I don't care what you feel.

The reaction is vastly overblown because you all set yourself up for the "OH GOD THEY'RE SELLING OUT" bullshit. Congratulations on your self-fulfilling prophecy. You hate it because you expected to before it ever came out and the second you heard one song you didn't like you immediately used it to affirm your pre-conceived belief.

The album, like every other album on the planet had its good songs, its bad songs, and its mediocre songs. It had songs that were like many of the past songs and songs that weren't.

Tough shit that you don't like it because it isn't identical to their first album from 9 years ago. Neither were any of their other albums.

Learn to see past your own internal biases and you'll find there are good songs on the album.


craton's talking that real shit right now. album was released under yg ent. kmd = yg haters (minus big bang shit). the hate and disappointment here was expected long before the album was even released.

u a dikrida b
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
ASie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States777 Posts
October 29 2012 23:30 GMT
#83613
On October 30 2012 08:15 Murdco wrote:
While visiting a site I was searching stuff and by way of luck 한소아 was saved on my ctrl-v
I found these and don't care if its a repost.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


edit: @Fawkes, Yep needs to be seen
2. Minus let me down it re sizes for embeds http://minus.com/mh9ypBb5kRB7E true resolution there

Just me or does she look like Sulli in that first picture. Regardless, hot stuff.
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
October 29 2012 23:36 GMT
#83614
On October 30 2012 08:30 ASie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 08:15 Murdco wrote:
While visiting a site I was searching stuff and by way of luck 한소아 was saved on my ctrl-v
I found these and don't care if its a repost.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


edit: @Fawkes, Yep needs to be seen
2. Minus let me down it re sizes for embeds http://minus.com/mh9ypBb5kRB7E true resolution there

Just me or does she look like Sulli in that first picture. Regardless, hot stuff.

Looks like Yoon Se Ah, the actress (Hong pro - AGD)
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 23:58:38
October 29 2012 23:56 GMT
#83615
No idd, I thought it was Sulli at first aswell

edit*
Before people start calling me names because I couldn't recognize... just the first millisecond, where I was still searching for a name for the face.
BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
klogg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden800 Posts
October 29 2012 23:57 GMT
#83616
On October 30 2012 06:00 Craton wrote:
You hate it because you wanted to hate it.

No, I hate it because it's bad. But keep spewing your pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

On October 30 2012 06:02 AsnSensation wrote:
source klogg?

His twitter.
http://fiddle.se/ - @klogglol
dbg
Profile Joined June 2012
Colombia264 Posts
October 30 2012 00:11 GMT
#83617
On October 30 2012 08:19 andyrau wrote:


Show nested quote +
On October 30 2012 06:20 dbg wrote:

craton's talking that real shit right now. album was released under yg ent. kmd = yg haters (minus big bang shit). the hate and disappointment here was expected long before the album was even released.

u a dikrida b

i give her that d cause thats where i was born and raised in
every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37045 Posts
October 30 2012 00:21 GMT
#83618
On October 30 2012 08:15 Murdco wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

While visiting a site I was searching stuff and by way of luck 한소아 was saved on my ctrl-v
I found these and don't care if its a repost.
[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


edit: @Fawkes, Yep needs to be seen
2. Minus let me down it re sizes for embeds http://minus.com/mh9ypBb5kRB7E true resolution there

O...m...f...g...

Have mercy...
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 30 2012 00:37 GMT
#83619


Finally..at long last.....MY PANTS ARENT READY FOR THIS
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
October 30 2012 00:41 GMT
#83620
I like han soa's songs, but never had a face to her until now. tyvm haha
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