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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-04 23:29:27
March 04 2010 23:28 GMT
#7081
On March 05 2010 08:26 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 08:24 boesthius wrote:
On March 05 2010 08:17 ryuu_ wrote:
Korea's Fair Trade Commission isn't gonna take SME's slavery contracts

http://www.allkpop.com/2010/03/sm-entertainment-officially-investigated-for-unfair-contract-terms

Lets hope something happens ^^

I dont understand how someone would still sign to a contract like they're saying is 'unfair'. It's the job of the lawyer to explain what all the fine print means - and they should explain to you whether or not you're getting yourself in a shitty situation; aka 13 year contracts and the like.

What if they tell you you're not getting signed unless you sign a unfair contract?


Basically. You sit in training for 7 years and the only shot you get is some absurd contract. You're pretty desperate by that point and lets face it: it's pretty hard to debut when you aren't damn near 21 or younger. Take the shitty contact or go find other work.
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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
March 04 2010 23:30 GMT
#7082
yeah it still stumps me but if i had to take a guess either they arent told of their entire contract, which would be really messed up, or they just get caught up in the "oh im gonna be famous" moment. :/
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-04 23:31:30
March 04 2010 23:31 GMT
#7083
I make fun of Rika being skinny but in actually B2Y sings really well

boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-04 23:32:00
March 04 2010 23:31 GMT
#7084
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-04 23:53:46
March 04 2010 23:34 GMT
#7085

엉덩이가작고예쁜나같은여자

my favorite song ever
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
March 04 2010 23:45 GMT
#7086
On March 05 2010 08:30 ryuu_ wrote:
yeah it still stumps me but if i had to take a guess either they arent told of their entire contract, which would be really messed up, or they just get caught up in the "oh im gonna be famous" moment. :/


Well, think about it.

You start training when you're in like middle school, so you've been training for basically as long as you can remember by the time the offer rolls about. It's effectively your life's dream that you've been devoting all your free time and you're still pretty young. I guess the parents could intervene if the kids aren't 19+ KR age, but that's a hard thing for a parent to do. It's pretty much a lock that you'll be so caught up in the realization of your dream that you aren't going to objectively look at the fine print of the contract (if you look at all).
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ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
March 04 2010 23:54 GMT
#7087
On March 05 2010 08:45 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 08:30 ryuu_ wrote:
yeah it still stumps me but if i had to take a guess either they arent told of their entire contract, which would be really messed up, or they just get caught up in the "oh im gonna be famous" moment. :/


Well, think about it.

You start training when you're in like middle school, so you've been training for basically as long as you can remember by the time the offer rolls about. It's effectively your life's dream that you've been devoting all your free time and you're still pretty young. I guess the parents could intervene if the kids aren't 19+ KR age, but that's a hard thing for a parent to do. It's pretty much a lock that you'll be so caught up in the realization of your dream that you aren't going to objectively look at the fine print of the contract (if you look at all).


haha yeah i typed the post up before i read the posts before me, my bad! :/
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 05 2010 00:20 GMT
#7088
Fuck you guys. Shittin on boes for no god damn reason. Y'all just a bunch of haters. <3 boes.
God Bless
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
March 05 2010 00:20 GMT
#7089
On March 05 2010 08:45 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 08:30 ryuu_ wrote:
yeah it still stumps me but if i had to take a guess either they arent told of their entire contract, which would be really messed up, or they just get caught up in the "oh im gonna be famous" moment. :/


Well, think about it.

You start training when you're in like middle school, so you've been training for basically as long as you can remember by the time the offer rolls about. It's effectively your life's dream that you've been devoting all your free time and you're still pretty young. I guess the parents could intervene if the kids aren't 19+ KR age, but that's a hard thing for a parent to do. It's pretty much a lock that you'll be so caught up in the realization of your dream that you aren't going to objectively look at the fine print of the contract (if you look at all).


Apparently the REAL reason jaebeom got kicked out of 2pm is not because of the "gay" comment he wrote on his myspace, but because he exposed JYP's 10 year slave contract. This is very detrimental to JYPE's image b/c they pride themselves of giving their artists better treatment compared to SM, but jaebeom revealed the truth. Notice in his myspace he talks about it, but conveniently it was whited out in the original screenshot...hottests have filled in the blanks

http://pds16.egloos.com/pds/201002/24/83/d0059783_4b83f179134ba.gif
hyomin godtier
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada367 Posts
March 05 2010 00:38 GMT
#7090
Lucky for Jaebeom he dosent post on TL they hand out bans for that kind of grammer.
My Heart Beats for Kim Hyunah
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 00:42:14
March 05 2010 00:41 GMT
#7091
rofl

I guess 10 years is better than a lifetime contact, or is it [sm's contact] just something absurd like 50 years that's not technically a lifetime contact
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silverfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States304 Posts
March 05 2010 00:47 GMT
#7092
On March 05 2010 09:20 kakaman wrote:Apparently the REAL reason jaebeom got kicked out of 2pm is not because of the "gay" comment he wrote on his myspace, but because he exposed JYP's 10 year slave contract. This is very detrimental to JYPE's image b/c they pride themselves of giving their artists better treatment compared to SM, but jaebeom revealed the truth. Notice in his myspace he talks about it, but conveniently it was whited out in the original screenshot...hottests have filled in the blanks

I doubt it. in b4 tl;dr, but if you read the transcript, what he got kicked out for was something he did repeatedly, and it was phrased in a way that implied they were social transgressions.

My personal theory is that he sat down with a lawyer to figure out how to get out of the contract and they came up with telling the management that he's gay. They can't prove any of it, and given conservative Korean society, the management would almost certainly exercise their option to release him. I'm invoking any homophobia here, but if I were in the management's position given that sort of environment, just thinking about the potential bad publicity from something like that would have made me sweat already.
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
March 05 2010 01:00 GMT
#7093
On March 05 2010 09:47 silverfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 09:20 kakaman wrote:Apparently the REAL reason jaebeom got kicked out of 2pm is not because of the "gay" comment he wrote on his myspace, but because he exposed JYP's 10 year slave contract. This is very detrimental to JYPE's image b/c they pride themselves of giving their artists better treatment compared to SM, but jaebeom revealed the truth. Notice in his myspace he talks about it, but conveniently it was whited out in the original screenshot...hottests have filled in the blanks

I doubt it. in b4 tl;dr, but if you read the transcript, what he got kicked out for was something he did repeatedly, and it was phrased in a way that implied they were social transgressions.

My personal theory is that he sat down with a lawyer to figure out how to get out of the contract and they came up with telling the management that he's gay. They can't prove any of it, and given conservative Korean society, the management would almost certainly exercise their option to release him. I'm invoking any homophobia here, but if I were in the management's position given that sort of environment, just thinking about the potential bad publicity from something like that would have made me sweat already.

Sounds plausible.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Solinren
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2653 Posts
March 05 2010 01:10 GMT
#7094
Nooooo~~ jaebeom11111111
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
March 05 2010 01:16 GMT
#7095
lol

ye ole "i'm gay" loophole
twitch.tv/cratonz
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
March 05 2010 02:25 GMT
#7096
On March 05 2010 10:00 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 09:47 silverfire wrote:
On March 05 2010 09:20 kakaman wrote:Apparently the REAL reason jaebeom got kicked out of 2pm is not because of the "gay" comment he wrote on his myspace, but because he exposed JYP's 10 year slave contract. This is very detrimental to JYPE's image b/c they pride themselves of giving their artists better treatment compared to SM, but jaebeom revealed the truth. Notice in his myspace he talks about it, but conveniently it was whited out in the original screenshot...hottests have filled in the blanks

I doubt it. in b4 tl;dr, but if you read the transcript, what he got kicked out for was something he did repeatedly, and it was phrased in a way that implied they were social transgressions.

My personal theory is that he sat down with a lawyer to figure out how to get out of the contract and they came up with telling the management that he's gay. They can't prove any of it, and given conservative Korean society, the management would almost certainly exercise their option to release him. I'm invoking any homophobia here, but if I were in the management's position given that sort of environment, just thinking about the potential bad publicity from something like that would have made me sweat already.

Sounds plausible.


Interesting...it's always the ones who try to overcompensate lol

SM contract is 13 years, which is like a lifetime contract cuz how many idols do you know who are over 30 these days? I can only think of Hyori
FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
March 05 2010 02:36 GMT
#7097
Jaebeom knows his Simpsons gags taking a page out of Bart and Seymour Skinner's book on getting kicked out of the army. I like it.

This thread needs more Kara.
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Actually I don't know the other two members names... :X
platinum? more like leaf
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
March 05 2010 02:41 GMT
#7098
2nd one is han seungyeon and last is ji young. not knowing jiyoung is understandable but most people kno HSY
Forever Young
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 05 2010 02:47 GMT
#7099
How the fuck do you not know Han Seungyeon? Bisu was practically bangin her all of 2007 when he was raping in MSL.
God Bless
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
March 05 2010 02:53 GMT
#7100
seriously man han seungyeon:
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