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So I'm playing in the pit orchestra for a ballet (Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake) and during rehearsal today, I realized something. Watching ballet is considered super classy now but back then, it was very mainstream entertainment (at least among the people who could afford to go). Audience was mostly guys, including ahjussi age groups.
Ballet is questionably clothed, young girls dancing around on a large stage. Sometimes a bit too young. Preference for very skinny/lean girls without much curves. Lots of makeup to make them look pale and highlight the eyes. The girls are rigorously trained from a very young age in a highly competitive atmosphere. The music that goes along with it is repetitive, catchy melodies; the composers actively tried to make the music as memorable and appealing to the masses as possible. The people in charge are always male, and probably somewhere between the age of 35-60. The ballet companies give the ballerinas a very small cut of the profit, but it's not like they could use it anyway as they spend every day training. The ballerinas maintain a very pure image but there are lots of rumors of behind the scenes scandals. The males involved in ballet wear very tight clothing and heavy make up. They don't want to be too bulky but rather toned and tall. Hair always nicely styled. Again, try to be as pale as possible. etc etc.
Maybe, far in the future, going to kpop concerts will be considered a super classy evening out.
On March 21 2012 15:08 Xenocide_Knight wrote: So I'm playing in the pit orchestra for a ballet (Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake) and during rehearsal today, I realized something. Watching ballet is considered super classy now but back then, it was very mainstream entertainment (at least among the people who could afford to go). Audience was mostly guys, including ahjussi age groups.
Ballet is questionably clothed, young girls dancing around on a large stage. Sometimes a bit too young. Preference for very skinny/lean girls without much curves. Lots of makeup to make them look pale and highlight the eyes. The girls are rigorously trained from a very young age in a highly competitive atmosphere. The music that goes along with it is repetitive, catchy melodies; the composers actively tried to make the music as memorable and appealing to the masses as possible. The people in charge are always male, and probably somewhere between the age of 35-60. The ballet companies give the ballerinas a very small cut of the profit, but it's not like they could use it anyway as they spend every day training. The ballerinas maintain a very pure image but there are lots of rumors of behind the scenes scandals. The males involved in ballet wear very tight clothing and heavy make up. They don't want to be too bulky but rather toned and tall. Hair always nicely styled. Again, try to be as pale as possible. etc etc.
Maybe, far in the future, going to kpop concerts will be considered a super classy evening out.
Nice try, but you made too many invalid assumptions (and ignored some valid considerations) for this to be entirely convincing.
In any case, if kpop concerts were to be considered "classy" in the future, I truly fear for the world.
I can understand where you're coming from. However, it seems like comparing masterpiece paintings from the Baroque/Classical/Romantic era to digital art. Both can be nice and take a large amount of ability, but the latter is ultimately simpler and lacks a fair degree of finesse.
On March 21 2012 15:08 Xenocide_Knight wrote: So I'm playing in the pit orchestra for a ballet (Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake) and during rehearsal today, I realized something. Watching ballet is considered super classy now but back then, it was very mainstream entertainment (at least among the people who could afford to go). Audience was mostly guys, including ahjussi age groups.
Ballet is questionably clothed, young girls dancing around on a large stage. Sometimes a bit too young. Preference for very skinny/lean girls without much curves. Lots of makeup to make them look pale and highlight the eyes. The girls are rigorously trained from a very young age in a highly competitive atmosphere. The music that goes along with it is repetitive, catchy melodies; the composers actively tried to make the music as memorable and appealing to the masses as possible. The people in charge are always male, and probably somewhere between the age of 35-60. The ballet companies give the ballerinas a very small cut of the profit, but it's not like they could use it anyway as they spend every day training. The ballerinas maintain a very pure image but there are lots of rumors of behind the scenes scandals. The males involved in ballet wear very tight clothing and heavy make up. They don't want to be too bulky but rather toned and tall. Hair always nicely styled. Again, try to be as pale as possible. etc etc.
Maybe, far in the future, going to kpop concerts will be considered a super classy evening out.
No, because pop music caters to mainstream audience.
On March 21 2012 15:08 Xenocide_Knight wrote: So I'm playing in the pit orchestra for a ballet (Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake) and during rehearsal today, I realized something. Watching ballet is considered super classy now but back then, it was very mainstream entertainment (at least among the people who could afford to go). Audience was mostly guys, including ahjussi age groups.
Ballet is questionably clothed, young girls dancing around on a large stage. Sometimes a bit too young. Preference for very skinny/lean girls without much curves. Lots of makeup to make them look pale and highlight the eyes. The girls are rigorously trained from a very young age in a highly competitive atmosphere. The music that goes along with it is repetitive, catchy melodies; the composers actively tried to make the music as memorable and appealing to the masses as possible. The people in charge are always male, and probably somewhere between the age of 35-60. The ballet companies give the ballerinas a very small cut of the profit, but it's not like they could use it anyway as they spend every day training. The ballerinas maintain a very pure image but there are lots of rumors of behind the scenes scandals. The males involved in ballet wear very tight clothing and heavy make up. They don't want to be too bulky but rather toned and tall. Hair always nicely styled. Again, try to be as pale as possible. etc etc.
Maybe, far in the future, going to kpop concerts will be considered a super classy evening out.
I'm not a big fan of ballet (or opera) for that matter, but there is no doubt in my mind that both art forms are much classier than K-pop. I mean for one, ballet is a combination of elegant dance coupled with classical music, both which hail from older periods where in my opinion, a lot more thought and effort went into the production process. Back then entertainment was created by people who were pretty much geniuses, and everything has a certain logic and beauty in it. I mean, take a look at the layering in Bach's Prelude's and Fugue's, or even just the melodies in Chopin's Nocturnes. Everything is just so well thought out, and that's not something you can say about Kpop.
They are very different - as one said, one is directed to those with a refined particular taste while the other is directed towards the general public. As long as this is the case Kpop can never be classy because most people are simply that: not classy.
Wow Voice of Korea progressing so quick, already to the battles, naisu. Very good performance there, Kang Mi Jin (Yoari) has captivated me since Mia, like her so much I do not understand.
Just want to drop this in here. The Band is called "Onnine Ibalgwan". + Show Spoiler +
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onnine_Ibalgwan
Must listen, this song is a real happy-maker. If someone has infos on them and maybe even know what they are singing about, please let me know, i would appreciate it.
Not really. I mean, yes it's acoustic with female vocals, similar phrasing, and a snap track in the background, but that's hardly enough to call it plagiarism. Lyrics are different as far as I can tell, as is the guitar melody.
People should stop calling plagiarism at every little similarity, it's getting to be ridiculous.
Tonight is Korean Music night 2012 in Toronto with Brian Joo, G.Na, Teen Pop and A-Pink. Anyone from TL going? I'm meeting my friend at Bier Market near by the Kool Haus to pre drink before the show at 6:30. Doors are at 7 but we're not rabid fanboys that need to be right up at the front of the stage. Send a PM if you're interested in forming a group to head over.
Pressure is ONNNN 2 new Strong Heart MCs = Lee Dong Wook, Shin Dong Yuk. Good luck to them, gonna get compared to the previous MCs like nobody's business.
In 20 years time it's gonna be even harder for a song to be unique in any way. Things are always like this.
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