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XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
January 11 2017 23:05 GMT
#117621
Speaking of OVA/Movie, anyone watching Chain Chronicle?

There seems to be movies/OVA for that serie. Should I watch them before watching the TV serie or?
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 11 2017 23:20 GMT
#117622
On January 12 2017 07:46 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 07:07 Elem wrote:
You should stop watching the OVA and just go straight to season 1. The OVA is significantly worse, in my opinion and is just a worse version of parts of season one.

Edit: Actually might just be better to finish it so you can see the difference for yourself.


Yeah, I just finished the OVA and will continue with the TV series now, thanks.

On another note, I'm looking for recommendation (directed at everyone) with these specifics:

- It should be an adventure, preferably about hiking (the only thing I found was Yama no Susume which is probably not what I'm looking for

- Can be just wandering/traveling around in the wilderness as well

- Focus should be on the atmosphere of the areas and world, great examples here are Mushishi as well as the traveling episodes of Ergo Proxy

I don't care which genre or how old it is. If anything jumps to your mind just name it.

Have you watched Kino no Tabi? It's the first show I think of when I try to cater to those points. Sadly it is also the only show close to what you're looking for, since you've already watched Mushishi.
#freeshauni
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
January 11 2017 23:23 GMT
#117623
On January 12 2017 08:20 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 07:46 Miragee wrote:
On January 12 2017 07:07 Elem wrote:
You should stop watching the OVA and just go straight to season 1. The OVA is significantly worse, in my opinion and is just a worse version of parts of season one.

Edit: Actually might just be better to finish it so you can see the difference for yourself.


Yeah, I just finished the OVA and will continue with the TV series now, thanks.

On another note, I'm looking for recommendation (directed at everyone) with these specifics:

- It should be an adventure, preferably about hiking (the only thing I found was Yama no Susume which is probably not what I'm looking for

- Can be just wandering/traveling around in the wilderness as well

- Focus should be on the atmosphere of the areas and world, great examples here are Mushishi as well as the traveling episodes of Ergo Proxy

I don't care which genre or how old it is. If anything jumps to your mind just name it.

Have you watched Kino no Tabi? It's the first show I think of when I try to cater to those points. Sadly it is also the only show close to what you're looking for, since you've already watched Mushishi.


Yes, I have watched Kino no Tabi and loved it. That's pretty much what I am looking for. I don't know why I didn't include it in the examples above...
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 11 2017 23:44 GMT
#117624
Anyone watch Chouu Yuu Sekai?
Never Knows Best.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 12 2017 00:16 GMT
#117625
Gabriel DropOut EP 1 was quite hilarious, glad I checked it out!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 12 2017 00:26 GMT
#117626
Those konosuba still and gif are hilarious! I was dying of laughter. Now even more excited to watch the anime XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 12 2017 00:58 GMT
#117627
Tonight's going to be good. Konosuba and Maid dragon hype~
Never Knows Best.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
January 12 2017 01:32 GMT
#117628
Watched Garden of Words!

Truly beautiful (visuals + music) movie! The story is short, slow, and simple but I thought it was masterfully presented!

I believe this is my second anime/movie from Makoto Shinkai (5 cm per second). Anything else worth watching (Beside Your Name that isn't available yet)?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 12 2017 02:10 GMT
#117629
On January 12 2017 05:50 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
on another note, i have bungou stray dogs, flip flappers, and keijo downloaded for my next three to marathon...what to start with?

Keijo. Keijo is amazing.

On January 12 2017 05:45 motbob wrote:
There is more to animation than how good the individual frames look... the running scene / dancing scene in the Konosuba OP was drawn by a skilled individual. You may not like the final effect but it's certainly not "low budget."

When you have a lot of movement in a scene, and especially if the movement needs to convey comedy, the characters are usually going to be off-model. It hurts to think that the Konosuba, which has way more movement (read: budget) than most OPs and which does some interesting things with animation driving the comedy, is getting penalized because each frame didn't have perfect faces.

This almost makes me want to ask the sakugabooru guys like aers what they think of the animation in KonoSuba, and sit back and enjoy the answer

On January 12 2017 05:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 05:54 motbob wrote:
As long as you're watching it in motion and calling it garbage, and not looking at screenshots or going frame by frame, I have no issue.

I don't really have any way to record so I made screenshots since that's fairly doable. And I made sure to not cherrypick stuff that looks bad in stillframe but instead only chose stuff that looked wonky overall.
The OP in motion would be:

[image loading]

which I don't think makes it look any better

At the end of the day I guess this is subjective. It's clearly intentional style at this point, for better or worse. Be it because they want to be consistent with what they've done before or whatever else but when I look on MAL forum people there seem to like it. That should have a heavy bias towards people liking the show since people who don't won't bother posting there but oh well~

Wait... THAT is the "well animated dance scene" he was talking about? Hahah, if someone thinks that is good animation, their head might explode if they watch something similar from like KyoAni or something.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 12 2017 03:06 GMT
#117630
On January 12 2017 11:10 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 05:45 motbob wrote:
There is more to animation than how good the individual frames look... the running scene / dancing scene in the Konosuba OP was drawn by a skilled individual. You may not like the final effect but it's certainly not "low budget."

When you have a lot of movement in a scene, and especially if the movement needs to convey comedy, the characters are usually going to be off-model. It hurts to think that the Konosuba, which has way more movement (read: budget) than most OPs and which does some interesting things with animation driving the comedy, is getting penalized because each frame didn't have perfect faces.

This almost makes me want to ask the sakugabooru guys like aers what they think of the animation in KonoSuba, and sit back and enjoy the answer

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 05:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 12 2017 05:54 motbob wrote:
As long as you're watching it in motion and calling it garbage, and not looking at screenshots or going frame by frame, I have no issue.

I don't really have any way to record so I made screenshots since that's fairly doable. And I made sure to not cherrypick stuff that looks bad in stillframe but instead only chose stuff that looked wonky overall.
The OP in motion would be:

[image loading]

which I don't think makes it look any better

At the end of the day I guess this is subjective. It's clearly intentional style at this point, for better or worse. Be it because they want to be consistent with what they've done before or whatever else but when I look on MAL forum people there seem to like it. That should have a heavy bias towards people liking the show since people who don't won't bother posting there but oh well~

Wait... THAT is the "well animated dance scene" he was talking about? Hahah, if someone thinks that is good animation, their head might explode if they watch something similar from like KyoAni or something.

The show doesn't look like it has any more movement than any other show of it's genre. So "too much movement" isn't really an excuse for the shitty quality of the drawings. That and, because it's an OP, studios tend to put more detail in animating it, because 1. you'll be using it for 12-13 episodes, and 2. you only have to do it once, because you'll be using it for 12-13 episodes.

At this point, I'm starting to believe Toad that the shitty art is done intentionally now, since the whole show itself is more a parody. While they're parodying the genre, might as well do it for the art too, as an excuse to make whoever animated that appear to be a god at purposely drawing like shit. Took a look at the OP, the explosion looked nicely animated + Show Spoiler +
kill me now for admitting this
, just the character design/animation look like trash. Maybe DEEN realized that since shitty art can rake in tons of BD sales, there's no need to improve on that + Show Spoiler +
and it'll probably work at this rate
. Didn't SHAFT do the same with Bakemonogatari originally with their "abstract" direction style because they ran out of money at the time? + Show Spoiler +
granted they fixed some of that in the BDs whereas apparently Konosuba didn't.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 12 2017 03:43 GMT
#117631
Well, konosuba delivered all right, laughed quite a bit lol. This episode reminded me of that one episode last season where they were talking about the destroyer and the guy who made it etc...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
January 12 2017 03:53 GMT
#117632
On January 12 2017 11:10 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 05:50 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
on another note, i have bungou stray dogs, flip flappers, and keijo downloaded for my next three to marathon...what to start with?

Keijo. Keijo is amazing.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 05:45 motbob wrote:
There is more to animation than how good the individual frames look... the running scene / dancing scene in the Konosuba OP was drawn by a skilled individual. You may not like the final effect but it's certainly not "low budget."

When you have a lot of movement in a scene, and especially if the movement needs to convey comedy, the characters are usually going to be off-model. It hurts to think that the Konosuba, which has way more movement (read: budget) than most OPs and which does some interesting things with animation driving the comedy, is getting penalized because each frame didn't have perfect faces.

This almost makes me want to ask the sakugabooru guys like aers what they think of the animation in KonoSuba, and sit back and enjoy the answer

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 05:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 12 2017 05:54 motbob wrote:
As long as you're watching it in motion and calling it garbage, and not looking at screenshots or going frame by frame, I have no issue.

I don't really have any way to record so I made screenshots since that's fairly doable. And I made sure to not cherrypick stuff that looks bad in stillframe but instead only chose stuff that looked wonky overall.
The OP in motion would be:

[image loading]

which I don't think makes it look any better

At the end of the day I guess this is subjective. It's clearly intentional style at this point, for better or worse. Be it because they want to be consistent with what they've done before or whatever else but when I look on MAL forum people there seem to like it. That should have a heavy bias towards people liking the show since people who don't won't bother posting there but oh well~

Wait... THAT is the "well animated dance scene" he was talking about? Hahah, if someone thinks that is good animation, their head might explode if they watch something similar from like KyoAni or something.



This guy likes konosuba 's animation
https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/01/05/winter-anime-2017-preview/
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 12 2017 04:31 GMT
#117633
Oh right, while the animation does have its terrible moments (read: a lot of character animation lol), I personally don't mind it at all. A lot of the facial expressions are hilarious and the show has enough material and scene changes that if it's worse in one scene compared to another, I don't notice it. Guess I'm concentrating more on the silliness of it all (story etc...) rather than the animation quality? Still, if you are someone who enjoyed season 1, you will definitely enjoy season 2.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
January 12 2017 05:34 GMT
#117634
I've changed my mind. If you think Konosuba is shit tier animation, go watch Spiritpact. Just for like, 10 minutes or so. (I'm not a complete sadist.)

I will agree, I think Deen put all of there "gorgeous let's be Shaft" animation into Rakugo, but it's not complete trash. Maybe, given that some of the stills are like "first frame" after a cut, they may be trolling people.

(Then again, I grew up watching hand-drawn animation on VHS on a CRT-television. There could be some insensitivity to animation quality that might cause some people to claw out their eyes.)

So, Dragon Maid is out today? That's another one to check out.

Things I've looked at already so far -
Kemono Friends (Dora the Explorer in Anime land)
Hand Shakers (Meh. All the WTF of Flip Flappers with no redeeming qualities noted.)
Spiritpact (I have no idea how I made it through the entire episode.)
Seiren (Pretty. Pushy girl.)
Fuuka (Cute, RomCom SoL but I expect drama soon)
Rakugo (More stories. This is where Deen's good art goes.)
Demi-chan (Monster girls? Yes please. Nice take.)
Masamune-kun (Hoping that the MCs aren't total dicks the entire time.)
Akiba's Trip (Still thinking.)
Ai-Mai-Mi Surgical (Lots of confusion. Oh, there's like twenty of these minis.)

Things I haven't seen yet but will probably watch
DragonMaid
Konosuba
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
January 12 2017 05:56 GMT
#117635
Mmm since they are going with this arc I wonder if they will cover the arc where they go to the Crimson Magic Clan village or where they go to the hotspring town in Konosuba. I reaaaalllllly hope they do the Chunni mage village. My god that volume was funny as hell.
Never Knows Best.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 12 2017 06:10 GMT
#117636
Fuuka (Cute, RomCom SoL but I expect drama soon)


l0l...
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-12 06:13:37
January 12 2017 06:11 GMT
#117637
On January 12 2017 15:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
Fuuka (Cute, RomCom SoL but I expect drama soon)


l0l...


So I'm guessing it goes into School Days territory then? Eh. I can see the triangle, but it seems cute after one episode.

Nevermind that. Wikipedia. Hmm. So how is this all going to turn out then? Should be an interesting ride at least.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-12 06:21:08
January 12 2017 06:19 GMT
#117638
On January 12 2017 14:56 Slaughter wrote:
Mmm since they are going with this arc I wonder if they will cover the arc where they go to the Crimson Magic Clan village or where they go to the hotspring town in Konosuba. I reaaaalllllly hope they do the Chunni mage village. My god that volume was funny as hell.

I'm assuming hotspring and no chuuni mage village. But yeah vol 5 (was 5, right?) would be nice.
Or if it sells 10k+ average BD's again we're just getting s3 in fall this year

I've also somehow come to terms with the art/animation. Maybe it's just that I'm really used to modern moe animation that I can't stand other styles. Shin-chan (I know that's a bit extreme of an example) is another thing that I just hate from an artistic pov but some people like it I guess?
Also not a fan of one piece as people might know... so as long as they don't go convincing kurone to alter his illustrations to fit I'm okay with it~

Oh that reminds me, chomusuke isn't introduced yet, right?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 12 2017 06:26 GMT
#117639
On January 12 2017 15:11 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 15:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
Fuuka (Cute, RomCom SoL but I expect drama soon)


l0l...


So I'm guessing it goes into School Days territory then? Eh. I can see the triangle, but it seems cute after one episode.

Nevermind that. Wikipedia. Hmm. So how is this all going to turn out then? Should be an interesting ride at least.

Naw, School Days is pretty unique for its own twist. Fuuka is a different surprise. You don't really expect it then BAM, you get SEO'd.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-12 06:47:52
January 12 2017 06:41 GMT
#117640
I think I will drop Kuzu then if it is indeed in my queue already (idr if it is or not but I know I was considering it).

@Toad no I don't think chomusuke was introduced. The animation/designs seemed worse this season. I dunno but everyone looked worse then they did in S1. I think your right about the vol number, I just want to see that arc animated as it would be glorious.
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