EPTThen again, the only episodic anime I managed to watch completely after quite a while was GITS (which is only partly episodic though). ^^ Unless we count comedies, I love these either way if good.
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HolydaKing
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Then again, the only episodic anime I managed to watch completely after quite a while was GITS (which is only partly episodic though). ^^ Unless we count comedies, I love these either way if good. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On August 30 2016 16:38 Miragee wrote: Where is Mushishi overrated? Eh, it was top 30 on MAL or something way back and years ago before everyone became a super ironic fag it was always very highly praised. It'd always have those diehard fans that are like, "omg yes I love that you love my obscure anime." If that makes sense? But I can't say it was bad so I understand why people might really like it. Just don't know if it made me feel an ounce of emotion or a need to see the next episode. That's why I just kind of called it.. effortless and easy watching. (It's #15, #26, #28 on MAL at 8.89, 8.8, and 8.78 respectively.) (Also #31, #46 at 8.76 and 8.67 respectively again.) Oh shit I lied about rating it an 8/10. I rated it a 6 after watching. But yeah, 5 Mushishi's in the top 50? I'd say it's slightly over rated if anything. | ||
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Miragee
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The the strength of the urge to watch the next episode does not equate quality btw. For some series, each episode have to sink in for a while for you to be able to really appreciate what you just saw. Some series lure the viewer in with slow progression of a romance or mystery plot but ultimately fail to deliver something good or are badly written or feature other badly written stuff such as terrible characters. I also wouldn't call it overrated on MAL as long as its rated lower than things like Shigatsu, Gintama or Steins;Gate. unrelated: + Show Spoiler [Dennou Coil ep19] + Holy fuck, I would have pissed my pants if I had watched this as a child. Those illegals... | ||
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HolydaKing
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TheEmulator
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+ Show Spoiler + I wonder if they will do those experiments on Ritsu and brainwash him to fight against Mob | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 30 2016 17:37 Miragee wrote: Steins;Gate is really not that good though. Again, personal enjoyment doesn't equal quality. Steins;Gate features very badly written characters. They are basically based of a few bullet points and that's it. The first 20 or so episodes are also quite unnecessary as they only feature those bullet point characters making dumb jokes and an unnecessarily prolonged story of the MC struggling to safe a character without a face or attributes he cares about for some reason. Pretty much this. Steins;Gate doesn't do anything particularly well aside from pretty decent time travel consistency(which they seem to kind of discard anyway?). It just delivers the tropes and checklist that anime majority love and has quite a lot of meme potential. I enjoyed it but it's always baffling to me how crazy hyped it is. Wonder if it's more luck than anything. Mushishi is beautifully made and masterfully atmospheric. It's one of the few anime that really knows how to use atmosphere to set the mood just right. It may not be the type of show for everyone but I think it's wrong to call it overrated or not amazing. There's also an art in setting up, delivering and concluding a story within one segment that shouldn't be underestimated. edit: MAL rankings really are a waste of time. Don't know why they offer any importance to an anime. | ||
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HolydaKing
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On August 30 2016 17:37 Miragee wrote: Steins;Gate is really not that good though. Again, personal enjoyment doesn't equal quality. Steins;Gate features very badly written characters. They are basically based of a few bullet points and that's it. The first 20 or so episodes are also quite unnecessary as they only feature those bullet point characters making dumb jokes and an unnecessarily prolonged story of the MC struggling to safe a character without a face or attributes he cares about for some reason. What you say might be true, however personal enjoyment is what makes rankings imo. I wouldn't rate animes by quality, but how I enjoy them. Only if the quality is extremely terrible or good it might impact that. | ||
Spazer
Canada8036 Posts
On August 30 2016 18:39 TheEmulator wrote: Mob Psycho 100 ep 8 was really good. I almost dropped this anime after ep 2 but it keeps getting better. + Show Spoiler + I wonder if they will do those experiments on Ritsu and brainwash him to fight against Mob I still maintain that the show is at its best when it's doing plot things instead of trying to make jokes. The way they've done the fights is really good. | ||
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Miragee
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On August 30 2016 23:56 HolydaKing wrote: What you say might be true, however personal enjoyment is what makes rankings imo. I wouldn't rate animes by quality, but how I enjoy them. Only if the quality is extremely terrible or good it might impact that. Yeah but that's the reason most rankings, especially on MAL, suck. If I look at the top 20 and half of the anime there is of bad/mediocre quality because they appeal to a huge crowd for some reason then I can't use that system to even narrow shows potentially worth watching. If it was the other way around there is a much higher chance of finding enjoyable anime within high quality anime. There might some that are boring but there is less chance you see something you can't enjoy/appreciate and by definition much less chance to see something terrible. Now, I see the benefit in having rankings done by enjoyment of the majority but we already have those in "popularity rankings". Optimally there would be one rating for enjoyment and one for quality. On August 31 2016 00:06 Spazer wrote: I still maintain that the show is at its best when it's doing plot things instead of trying to make jokes. The way they've done the fights is really good. I agree with this completely. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 30 2016 23:56 HolydaKing wrote: What you say might be true, however personal enjoyment is what makes rankings imo. I wouldn't rate animes by quality, but how I enjoy them. Only if the quality is extremely terrible or good it might impact that. If I did that most of my top shows would just be lewd yurifests that are so trashy. When you evaluate any piece of media you can do it in two parts I feel. The quality of the media itself and your enjoyment of that media. The reason I say this is because often that piece of media may not fall within your interests so your enjoyment of it may be warped by this and not the quality of the work itself. Now for someone else listening/reading your evaluation they may have different interests so that work could interest them. That's why evaluating it on it's own merit irrespective of your enjoyment is important. Any real good evaluation should speak about both criteria as the two aren't always linked. Poor quality work sometimes can be rather enjoyable for one person but not for another and the opposite is also true. People get too caught up in this "one size fits all" kind of metric that doesn't really serve a purpose and merely causes more controversy than anything else. An example that pops into my head is Schindler's List. Absolutely masterfully done movie. However I can't say that my enjoyment of it is any more or less than GuP movie. In fact the nature of the GuP movie most likely puts it higher than Schindler's list on an enjoyment level but I can't bring myself to ever call it a better movie than Schindler's List. This is why I loathe numeric based assessments of media. It's not only vastly inconsistent but the nature of the evaluation can't just be equated to numeric values easily. | ||
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
On August 31 2016 00:24 Miragee wrote: Yeah but that's the reason most rankings, especially on MAL, suck. If I look at the top 20 and half of the anime there is of bad/mediocre quality because they appeal to a huge crowd for some reason then I can't use that system to even narrow shows potentially worth watching. If it was the other way around there is a much higher chance of finding enjoyable anime within high quality anime. There might some that are boring but there is less chance you see something you can't enjoy/appreciate and by definition much less chance to see something terrible. Now, I see the benefit in having rankings done by enjoyment of the majority but we already have those in "popularity rankings". Optimally there would be one rating for enjoyment and one for quality. I agree with this completely. People can't even agree as to what quality is so I'm not sure how this would actually help. | ||
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Miragee
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On August 31 2016 00:30 Numy wrote: If I did that most of my top shows would just be lewd yurifests that are so trashy. When you evaluate any piece of media you can do it in two parts I feel. The quality of the media itself and your enjoyment of that media. The reason I say this is because often that piece of media may not fall within your interests so your enjoyment of it may be warped by this and not the quality of the work itself. Now for someone else listening/reading your evaluation they may have different interests so that work could interest them. That's why evaluating it on it's own merit irrespective of your enjoyment is important. Any real good evaluation should speak about both criteria as the two aren't always linked. Poor quality work sometimes can be rather enjoyable for one person but not for another and the opposite is also true. People get too caught up in this "one size fits all" kind of metric that doesn't really serve a purpose and merely causes more controversy than anything else. An example that pops into my head is Schindler's List. Absolutely masterfully done movie. However I can't say that my enjoyment of it is any more or less than GuP movie. In fact the nature of the GuP movie most likely puts it higher than Schindler's list on an enjoyment level but I can't bring myself to ever call it a better movie than Schindler's List. This is why I loathe numeric based assessments of media. It's not only vastly inconsistent but the nature of the evaluation can't just be equated to numeric values easily. Pretty much this, well said. On August 31 2016 00:34 IceHism wrote: People can't even agree as to what quality is so I'm not sure how this would actually help. I'm not saying everything would be perfect with this system. But it would certainly be better, at least a little. Except for MAL maybe where people can't distinguish between enjoyment and quality. Or even see quality at all because it takes a basic level of education and observation skills. | ||
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HolydaKing
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 What Miragee said obviously is right, there would need to be two different rankings, however I'm sure that wouldn't work either. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
All you get from things like MAL rankings is what is popular and what series are popular to consider good. They say more about the population making the rankings then the actual works themselves. Saying something is over or underrated is just a personal opinion of a user against the aggregate popularity rankings. That person thinks the work should be more or less liked/appreciated in comparison to how it is reprieved by the masses. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + This was well-crafted. The whole story and setting was really refreshing. It was a bit slow and bordered at being boring at times but it was always able to surprise you with a twist, that had a good build-up, or a new detail about the world. What was really surprising was that no twist felt like an ass-pull but still managed to surprise me that often, always thinking "oh right, that guy/thing/event existed as well, totally didn't think about that". I liked most of the characters in here. Not because of the characters themselves but because of their interaction. All the small fights and sassy comments were really cool. Yasako was a bit meh because half of her text in the second half consisted of "Haraken..." and "Amazawa...". Reminded me a bit of Mikasa's "Eren"... Her younger sister was a bit annoying at times but hey, that girl was pre elementary school so that's normal. Daichi and Fumie were funny antagonists. Even when they were self-centered they threw some pretty cool comments and also showed that they cared for others. My favourite in this show was Isako. She made so much progress here, was faulty all around but yet really cool. I sympathised a lot with her. Shout-outs to Fumie's little brother. He was cute, nice and skilled as fuck. Another point is that it is rated all ages. And while it is quite dark and scary at times (for children that is) it is presented in a way that I think both adults and children could enjoy this. Which is really hard to do and rare. I didn't quite like the last episode. It was really obvious what would happen and it what way and it was too long. I mean, it was correct to let Yasako and Isako struggle a little bit to show Isako's inner struggle. But you knew it was going to happen and when it happened you knew how it was going to end. It didn't feel satisfying. Animation was fitting and I liked the art. All in all another unique piece from Mad House. That studio always manages/managed to get some cool staff for their originals. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18775 Posts
On August 31 2016 00:34 IceHism wrote: People can't even agree as to what quality is so I'm not sure how this would actually help. Yeah, what is even a quality anime? I wouldn't know what to call a quality anime at all. | ||
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