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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 27 2015 11:44 GMT
#107961
I dont even know why anyone wouldnt read it.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
November 27 2015 11:47 GMT
#107962
On November 27 2015 20:39 Kipsate wrote:
read the manga if you need your opm fix, its great.


And if you catch up to that you will end up waiting for an unknown amount of time for each chapter, that might even turn out to be a random side story.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
November 27 2015 11:50 GMT
#107963
On November 27 2015 19:41 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 18:17 Spazer wrote:
Finished my rewatch.

+ Show Spoiler [Bunch of FMP shit] +
In the first season, when Chidori gets rescued by Sousuke after being mind probed (or whatever), her first thought is "I can't go outside dressed like this". I distinctly remember being annoyed by this exact scene the first time I watched it too. It's like the author was trying to (poorly) inject some humour into a decidedly unfunny situation.

The Afghanistan ("Helmajistan") arc is still my favorite part of s1, probably because it's the closest we get to BOMF-like material before BOMF. The only problem is that it's surrounded by gag episodes, which makes the shift in tone kinda jarring. Fortunately, this particular issue won't be present for BOMF.

Fumoffu is still godlike. In retrospect, it's kinda funny that it has some of the best relationship building scenes despite being a gag series.

I love TSR, and I hate it too. Kyoani totally nailed some parts of the show - the haircut scene, Chidori's paranoia, and the talk with Gauron come to mind. However, the plot has gaping holes that aren't really addressed.

The central problem for Sousuke is that he can't figure out how to balance his life. Does he spend his days at school, living "normally" and being with Chidori, or does he prioritize his work with Mithril? His conflict is symbolized in his relationship with the Arbalest/Al, and his inability to use the Lambda Driver. In the end, Sousuke ends up choosing both, which makes no goddamn sense. Sure, it's supposed to mean that both of these things are very important to him, but the whole reason this was an issue to begin with is because he wasn't able to handle both simultaneously! Aside from that, it's a decent character arc for him.

Similarly, Tessa wrestles with her duties as captain versus her feelings for Sousuke. This isn't resolved either since Sousuke cops out with a "you're my captain, but you're more than a captain to me" type answer.

Chidori's development is centered around her vulnerability when Sousuke is absent. It's meant to illustrate how dependent she became on Sousuke (in more ways than one). She deals with it though because Chidori is a badass.

TSR is also the start of villains who will never be as good as Gauron. Fortunately, it's also the start of Al as a serious character and deadpanner.


I wonder if they'll change the art again for the new series.


Man I read the LN's so long ago its a blur, is the new series going to go past TSR ? Actually it wouldnt be a bad idea to go back and start reading form COMO

I believe the new series is supposed to go to the end. I'm pretty stoked.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 27 2015 11:51 GMT
#107964
On November 27 2015 20:47 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 20:39 Kipsate wrote:
read the manga if you need your opm fix, its great.


And if you catch up to that you will end up waiting for an unknown amount of time for each chapter, that might even turn out to be a random side story.


Man its only a month on average. That honestly is fine with me. If you've waited weekly and monthly's for so long now you can pretty easily manage the "gotta have more feeling"
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 27 2015 11:58 GMT
#107965
On November 27 2015 10:39 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 02:09 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:54 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:24 Numy wrote:
Wow this girls volleyball team in Haikyuu is so hot. Why can't we get a burning sports anime with them!


Doesn't cater to fujoshis.

Regarding Haikyuu: Could you make a post once you finished it with your genuine thoughts about it? I'm curious.


I mean I'm half way and can give you my thoughts now, they won't change by the end. It's just your standard shounen sports anime. Cast is reasonable as always. Got the weird oddly close special first year pair, the older serious but nice captain who puts in his all to still be relevant, the old ace who gets powered up by the new special oddly close pair and the cute manager who surprises the team every now and then with inspiration. Oh also the rival school from a different prefecture that they practice with at the start and use as their "dream" to beat each other at nationals.

If you like this kind of thing than Haikyuu is for you. Characters are all decent enough and animation/sound is good. Story is pretty run of the mill as always. Manager is hotter than Kuroko's but not as big a character so don't know if that's a plus. It doesn't quite have the burning passion that Symphogear has or the slightly lesser heat of Kuroko though. I'd label it under "trashy pandering show that's fun" if that helps. There are worse ways to spend your time but it won't be something you remember years later.

Now Cross Game on the other hand is far more special. If you want a sports anime that isn't your usual shounen cut and paste then check that out. I'm not much of a sports anime man so there may be other older ones that are just as good.

Miragee if you want more indepth I can do it after I'm done I guess. It's not something that warrants that level of effort or thought though lol


Nah, this is already more than I expected, thanks!^^ It was just general curiosity because people hype that show, especially s2, through the roof. S2 is ranked 15 on MAL (I know, you might want to take this as an indicator that it's a mediocre show but once in a while there are exceptions). Since you recommended me some of my (now) favourite shows I thought I would just ask you what you think about it it, when you mentioned it.

I think I'll give it a pass then. On the other hand, I will keep an eye on Cross Game though. I'm not really into sports anime. I watched a bit of Hajime no Ippo and it was ok but I put it on hold for other things I wanted to watch. The only other anime is Chihayafuru I think which I really enjoyed because of the characters and mood, especially the mood of the game.


Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Dammit my joke fails if you all back me up So mean

You guys that watched Arslan how do you rate it? Worth watching or should I just avoid it.


I only watched the first 10 episodes, so take this with a grain of salt:

I gave it a 5/10 because it was really just about average in any aspect. It didn't do anything particularly bad but it also didn't do anything particularly well. It was also pretty plain and boring. Imagine LotGH pacing and story-telling techniques in a medieval setting without any decent characters, let alone great ones like in LotGH, that can handle any interesting conversations and without two parties on the same level. Arslan is pretty much a one-way ownage by Narsus.


A show that hits high on a ranking site like MAL doesn't mean it's good, it means it fits the view of what the base of that site views as good. That's a pretty important distinction to make and carries over to almost all forms of aggregated ranking.

So what does this all mean for Haikyuu? It's a model sports anime for the average anime viewer. If I were to make a template of "how to make a successful sports anime" shows like Haikyuu and Kuroko would fit that template exactly, never deviating from it. It's a perfectly safe show that never tries to do anything outside of the template. Turns out that's all you need to get hyped really. If you want that kind of safe show then Haikyuu is perfect for that.

I completely forgot about Chihayafuru when talking about good non-normal sports anime . If you liked that you'll like Cross game I think. Cross game is hardly even a sports anime in the traditional sense. It deals with sports yes but it's primary focus is on the characters. There's 50 episodes that take place across ~4 years so that's already atypical. Normally sports anime focus really hard on that one national run.

As a side note I kind of get annoyed at how formulaic the LN/Manga industry is which leads to anime industry being the same. I understand from a business POV it's risky to go for original content but at least try push the boundaries of what is safe a little.

ps: Saber rant and just general women in anime rant, mainly my hatred for Yamato Nadeshiko
+ Show Spoiler +
So saber as a concept I enjoy immensely, a female legendary king Arthur is just super cool. Even her design I love, it's cute yet has potential seriousness depending on the situation. All this make the execution of the character anger me greatly.

SHE IS KING FUCKING ARTHUR FOR FUCKSAKES. WHY IS SHE SUCH A WEAK CHARACTER

So let's just ignore what Saber is and look solely at who she is meant to be and what themes that should bring about. King Arthur, A mythical King of Camelot and Knights. Fights magical battles and leads. A mythical king should have presence,authority and charisma. This is a person that is the the ideal Knights are meant to aspire to be.

Saber shows almost none of the qualities I just mentioned. Alexander has presence from his sheer size and a natural authority in the way he speaks. Gilgamesh oozes charisma and authority with everything he does. Saber this mythical King has none of this. She's essentially a girl that can fight. That's it. It's fucking disgusting. Where is this immensely powerful authority that draws in all the aspiring knights from around the country? It just pisses me off so dam much that TM took this concept and instead of bring forth this powerful woman we get this cutesy character instead. You don't need to undermine the character in order to humanize them either. Urobutcher did a perfectly good job of writing Alexander to be both relatable and yet keep his immense presence. I know Nasu isn't as good a writer as Urobutcher and the VN style doesn't lend itself well to good writing but it's not like Saber in FZ was any different. That's how they want the Character to be and it makes me rage. Why can't I have this strong powerful women with presence and authority without undermining all that to make her cute? Just arg. Congratulations Type-Moon, you managed to take a mythical character and turn them into a joke

This leads onto the Yamato Nadeshiko rant. This concept disgusts me. I get it's a cultural difference but that doesn't mean I just accept it as is. Hell this isn't even that big a cultural difference as traditional christian views are basically the same. The women is a servant to the household and must obey the man. This arg. JUST ARG. Characters like Onodera piss me off so much because they play into this whole trope which I hate so dam much. I must be doing something wrong since the majority of anime viewer base seems to love this trope. My concept of an ideal women or relationship is one that she doesn't need. We both don't need the relationship to be who we are but we want to be with each other. She's smart,strong and capable without me but being together is just what we want. The whole "she's not really submissive" is just such a bullshit excuse. Part of the reason I dropped Bakuman at the start was because of the family dynamic. The son asks the mother to do something and she says no, he begs her to ask the father which she does and he says yes. That's it. No discussion between parents or anything. Father says yes so that's end of story. It's sick. These people are meant to be partners, how can you have a partnership when one is above the other. Yanger and Neo told me that's just how asian households work but fk it I don't want it in my anime.

Rant concluded. It just was something that I needed to vent on.

Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
November 27 2015 12:03 GMT
#107966
On November 27 2015 20:51 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 20:47 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 20:39 Kipsate wrote:
read the manga if you need your opm fix, its great.


And if you catch up to that you will end up waiting for an unknown amount of time for each chapter, that might even turn out to be a random side story.


Man its only a month on average. That honestly is fine with me. If you've waited weekly and monthly's for so long now you can pretty easily manage the "gotta have more feeling"


Don't get me wrong, I think the manga is great, but I don't like waiting for new chapters at all. I don't read a lot of manga and OPM is the only one I'm following that is still being published. And while I think the manga is great I'm definitely not that invested anymore because of all the wait. It's not really about the wait since the anime started airing. Waiting times that range from one week to one month are already more than I find enjoyable.

I just imagined how it would have been if some of my favourite novels had been released in weekly chapters. That would have been atrocious.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 12:13:18
November 27 2015 12:06 GMT
#107967
On November 27 2015 20:47 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 20:39 Kipsate wrote:
read the manga if you need your opm fix, its great.


And if you catch up to that you will end up waiting for an unknown amount of time for each chapter, that might even turn out to be a random side story.

that's when you begin binge-reading the webcomic

I personally don't mind the waiting, or the new side-stories that ONE is writing for the redraw
I'd like to have it faster, sure, but overall it doesn't bother me.

Regarding the side-stories:
+ Show Spoiler +
For example the current metal bat side-story is redraw original but is also pretty fucking awesome, especially because metalbat is one of my favourite characters in the series. So i don't mind it at all
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
November 27 2015 16:03 GMT
#107968
Searching google for a way to remove static from Headphone. So far, no luck.
Any tips?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 27 2015 17:24 GMT
#107969
On November 27 2015 20:58 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 10:39 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 02:09 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:54 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:24 Numy wrote:
Wow this girls volleyball team in Haikyuu is so hot. Why can't we get a burning sports anime with them!


Doesn't cater to fujoshis.

Regarding Haikyuu: Could you make a post once you finished it with your genuine thoughts about it? I'm curious.


I mean I'm half way and can give you my thoughts now, they won't change by the end. It's just your standard shounen sports anime. Cast is reasonable as always. Got the weird oddly close special first year pair, the older serious but nice captain who puts in his all to still be relevant, the old ace who gets powered up by the new special oddly close pair and the cute manager who surprises the team every now and then with inspiration. Oh also the rival school from a different prefecture that they practice with at the start and use as their "dream" to beat each other at nationals.

If you like this kind of thing than Haikyuu is for you. Characters are all decent enough and animation/sound is good. Story is pretty run of the mill as always. Manager is hotter than Kuroko's but not as big a character so don't know if that's a plus. It doesn't quite have the burning passion that Symphogear has or the slightly lesser heat of Kuroko though. I'd label it under "trashy pandering show that's fun" if that helps. There are worse ways to spend your time but it won't be something you remember years later.

Now Cross Game on the other hand is far more special. If you want a sports anime that isn't your usual shounen cut and paste then check that out. I'm not much of a sports anime man so there may be other older ones that are just as good.

Miragee if you want more indepth I can do it after I'm done I guess. It's not something that warrants that level of effort or thought though lol


Nah, this is already more than I expected, thanks!^^ It was just general curiosity because people hype that show, especially s2, through the roof. S2 is ranked 15 on MAL (I know, you might want to take this as an indicator that it's a mediocre show but once in a while there are exceptions). Since you recommended me some of my (now) favourite shows I thought I would just ask you what you think about it it, when you mentioned it.

I think I'll give it a pass then. On the other hand, I will keep an eye on Cross Game though. I'm not really into sports anime. I watched a bit of Hajime no Ippo and it was ok but I put it on hold for other things I wanted to watch. The only other anime is Chihayafuru I think which I really enjoyed because of the characters and mood, especially the mood of the game.


On November 27 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Dammit my joke fails if you all back me up So mean

You guys that watched Arslan how do you rate it? Worth watching or should I just avoid it.


I only watched the first 10 episodes, so take this with a grain of salt:

I gave it a 5/10 because it was really just about average in any aspect. It didn't do anything particularly bad but it also didn't do anything particularly well. It was also pretty plain and boring. Imagine LotGH pacing and story-telling techniques in a medieval setting without any decent characters, let alone great ones like in LotGH, that can handle any interesting conversations and without two parties on the same level. Arslan is pretty much a one-way ownage by Narsus.


A show that hits high on a ranking site like MAL doesn't mean it's good, it means it fits the view of what the base of that site views as good. That's a pretty important distinction to make and carries over to almost all forms of aggregated ranking.

So what does this all mean for Haikyuu? It's a model sports anime for the average anime viewer. If I were to make a template of "how to make a successful sports anime" shows like Haikyuu and Kuroko would fit that template exactly, never deviating from it. It's a perfectly safe show that never tries to do anything outside of the template. Turns out that's all you need to get hyped really. If you want that kind of safe show then Haikyuu is perfect for that.

I completely forgot about Chihayafuru when talking about good non-normal sports anime . If you liked that you'll like Cross game I think. Cross game is hardly even a sports anime in the traditional sense. It deals with sports yes but it's primary focus is on the characters. There's 50 episodes that take place across ~4 years so that's already atypical. Normally sports anime focus really hard on that one national run.

As a side note I kind of get annoyed at how formulaic the LN/Manga industry is which leads to anime industry being the same. I understand from a business POV it's risky to go for original content but at least try push the boundaries of what is safe a little.

ps: Saber rant and just general women in anime rant, mainly my hatred for Yamato Nadeshiko
+ Show Spoiler +
So saber as a concept I enjoy immensely, a female legendary king Arthur is just super cool. Even her design I love, it's cute yet has potential seriousness depending on the situation. All this make the execution of the character anger me greatly.

SHE IS KING FUCKING ARTHUR FOR FUCKSAKES. WHY IS SHE SUCH A WEAK CHARACTER

So let's just ignore what Saber is and look solely at who she is meant to be and what themes that should bring about. King Arthur, A mythical King of Camelot and Knights. Fights magical battles and leads. A mythical king should have presence,authority and charisma. This is a person that is the the ideal Knights are meant to aspire to be.

Saber shows almost none of the qualities I just mentioned. Alexander has presence from his sheer size and a natural authority in the way he speaks. Gilgamesh oozes charisma and authority with everything he does. Saber this mythical King has none of this. She's essentially a girl that can fight. That's it. It's fucking disgusting. Where is this immensely powerful authority that draws in all the aspiring knights from around the country? It just pisses me off so dam much that TM took this concept and instead of bring forth this powerful woman we get this cutesy character instead. You don't need to undermine the character in order to humanize them either. Urobutcher did a perfectly good job of writing Alexander to be both relatable and yet keep his immense presence. I know Nasu isn't as good a writer as Urobutcher and the VN style doesn't lend itself well to good writing but it's not like Saber in FZ was any different. That's how they want the Character to be and it makes me rage. Why can't I have this strong powerful women with presence and authority without undermining all that to make her cute? Just arg. Congratulations Type-Moon, you managed to take a mythical character and turn them into a joke

This leads onto the Yamato Nadeshiko rant. This concept disgusts me. I get it's a cultural difference but that doesn't mean I just accept it as is. Hell this isn't even that big a cultural difference as traditional christian views are basically the same. The women is a servant to the household and must obey the man. This arg. JUST ARG. Characters like Onodera piss me off so much because they play into this whole trope which I hate so dam much. I must be doing something wrong since the majority of anime viewer base seems to love this trope. My concept of an ideal women or relationship is one that she doesn't need. We both don't need the relationship to be who we are but we want to be with each other. She's smart,strong and capable without me but being together is just what we want. The whole "she's not really submissive" is just such a bullshit excuse. Part of the reason I dropped Bakuman at the start was because of the family dynamic. The son asks the mother to do something and she says no, he begs her to ask the father which she does and he says yes. That's it. No discussion between parents or anything. Father says yes so that's end of story. It's sick. These people are meant to be partners, how can you have a partnership when one is above the other. Yanger and Neo told me that's just how asian households work but fk it I don't want it in my anime.

Rant concluded. It just was something that I needed to vent on.


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welcome to asian culture(?)
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
November 27 2015 17:38 GMT
#107970
+ Show Spoiler [Shokugeki] +
Man, Souma's gotten way too far. Eizan was just realized to be better than at least a few other Elite Ten members, and Souma's about to win
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 18:23:58
November 27 2015 18:14 GMT
#107971
On November 27 2015 20:58 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 10:39 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 02:09 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:54 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:24 Numy wrote:
Wow this girls volleyball team in Haikyuu is so hot. Why can't we get a burning sports anime with them!


Doesn't cater to fujoshis.

Regarding Haikyuu: Could you make a post once you finished it with your genuine thoughts about it? I'm curious.


I mean I'm half way and can give you my thoughts now, they won't change by the end. It's just your standard shounen sports anime. Cast is reasonable as always. Got the weird oddly close special first year pair, the older serious but nice captain who puts in his all to still be relevant, the old ace who gets powered up by the new special oddly close pair and the cute manager who surprises the team every now and then with inspiration. Oh also the rival school from a different prefecture that they practice with at the start and use as their "dream" to beat each other at nationals.

If you like this kind of thing than Haikyuu is for you. Characters are all decent enough and animation/sound is good. Story is pretty run of the mill as always. Manager is hotter than Kuroko's but not as big a character so don't know if that's a plus. It doesn't quite have the burning passion that Symphogear has or the slightly lesser heat of Kuroko though. I'd label it under "trashy pandering show that's fun" if that helps. There are worse ways to spend your time but it won't be something you remember years later.

Now Cross Game on the other hand is far more special. If you want a sports anime that isn't your usual shounen cut and paste then check that out. I'm not much of a sports anime man so there may be other older ones that are just as good.

Miragee if you want more indepth I can do it after I'm done I guess. It's not something that warrants that level of effort or thought though lol


Nah, this is already more than I expected, thanks!^^ It was just general curiosity because people hype that show, especially s2, through the roof. S2 is ranked 15 on MAL (I know, you might want to take this as an indicator that it's a mediocre show but once in a while there are exceptions). Since you recommended me some of my (now) favourite shows I thought I would just ask you what you think about it it, when you mentioned it.

I think I'll give it a pass then. On the other hand, I will keep an eye on Cross Game though. I'm not really into sports anime. I watched a bit of Hajime no Ippo and it was ok but I put it on hold for other things I wanted to watch. The only other anime is Chihayafuru I think which I really enjoyed because of the characters and mood, especially the mood of the game.


On November 27 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Dammit my joke fails if you all back me up So mean

You guys that watched Arslan how do you rate it? Worth watching or should I just avoid it.


I only watched the first 10 episodes, so take this with a grain of salt:

I gave it a 5/10 because it was really just about average in any aspect. It didn't do anything particularly bad but it also didn't do anything particularly well. It was also pretty plain and boring. Imagine LotGH pacing and story-telling techniques in a medieval setting without any decent characters, let alone great ones like in LotGH, that can handle any interesting conversations and without two parties on the same level. Arslan is pretty much a one-way ownage by Narsus.


A show that hits high on a ranking site like MAL doesn't mean it's good, it means it fits the view of what the base of that site views as good. That's a pretty important distinction to make and carries over to almost all forms of aggregated ranking.

So what does this all mean for Haikyuu? It's a model sports anime for the average anime viewer. If I were to make a template of "how to make a successful sports anime" shows like Haikyuu and Kuroko would fit that template exactly, never deviating from it. It's a perfectly safe show that never tries to do anything outside of the template. Turns out that's all you need to get hyped really. If you want that kind of safe show then Haikyuu is perfect for that.

I completely forgot about Chihayafuru when talking about good non-normal sports anime . If you liked that you'll like Cross game I think. Cross game is hardly even a sports anime in the traditional sense. It deals with sports yes but it's primary focus is on the characters. There's 50 episodes that take place across ~4 years so that's already atypical. Normally sports anime focus really hard on that one national run.

As a side note I kind of get annoyed at how formulaic the LN/Manga industry is which leads to anime industry being the same. I understand from a business POV it's risky to go for original content but at least try push the boundaries of what is safe a little.

ps: Saber rant and just general women in anime rant, mainly my hatred for Yamato Nadeshiko
+ Show Spoiler +
So saber as a concept I enjoy immensely, a female legendary king Arthur is just super cool. Even her design I love, it's cute yet has potential seriousness depending on the situation. All this make the execution of the character anger me greatly.

SHE IS KING FUCKING ARTHUR FOR FUCKSAKES. WHY IS SHE SUCH A WEAK CHARACTER

So let's just ignore what Saber is and look solely at who she is meant to be and what themes that should bring about. King Arthur, A mythical King of Camelot and Knights. Fights magical battles and leads. A mythical king should have presence,authority and charisma. This is a person that is the the ideal Knights are meant to aspire to be.

Saber shows almost none of the qualities I just mentioned. Alexander has presence from his sheer size and a natural authority in the way he speaks. Gilgamesh oozes charisma and authority with everything he does. Saber this mythical King has none of this. She's essentially a girl that can fight. That's it. It's fucking disgusting. Where is this immensely powerful authority that draws in all the aspiring knights from around the country? It just pisses me off so dam much that TM took this concept and instead of bring forth this powerful woman we get this cutesy character instead. You don't need to undermine the character in order to humanize them either. Urobutcher did a perfectly good job of writing Alexander to be both relatable and yet keep his immense presence. I know Nasu isn't as good a writer as Urobutcher and the VN style doesn't lend itself well to good writing but it's not like Saber in FZ was any different. That's how they want the Character to be and it makes me rage. Why can't I have this strong powerful women with presence and authority without undermining all that to make her cute? Just arg. Congratulations Type-Moon, you managed to take a mythical character and turn them into a joke

This leads onto the Yamato Nadeshiko rant. This concept disgusts me. I get it's a cultural difference but that doesn't mean I just accept it as is. Hell this isn't even that big a cultural difference as traditional christian views are basically the same. The women is a servant to the household and must obey the man. This arg. JUST ARG. Characters like Onodera piss me off so much because they play into this whole trope which I hate so dam much. I must be doing something wrong since the majority of anime viewer base seems to love this trope. My concept of an ideal women or relationship is one that she doesn't need. We both don't need the relationship to be who we are but we want to be with each other. She's smart,strong and capable without me but being together is just what we want. The whole "she's not really submissive" is just such a bullshit excuse. Part of the reason I dropped Bakuman at the start was because of the family dynamic. The son asks the mother to do something and she says no, he begs her to ask the father which she does and he says yes. That's it. No discussion between parents or anything. Father says yes so that's end of story. It's sick. These people are meant to be partners, how can you have a partnership when one is above the other. Yanger and Neo told me that's just how asian households work but fk it I don't want it in my anime.

Rant concluded. It just was something that I needed to vent on.



This is pre ww2/reconstruction Yamato nadeshiko. Modern one is pretty different. And saber isn't Yamato nadeshiko. Generally, kuuderes and Yamato nadeshiko are combined into one trope from what I

And vn style doesn't lend itself well to good writing? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 27 2015 19:34 GMT
#107972
Just watched this week's noragami... my jimmies are rustled as hell
:)
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 20:04:32
November 27 2015 19:41 GMT
#107973
Lool, Heavy Object is so ridiculous. The penguin scene in episode 9, omg.

That episode was really good because it was so silly and thus funny.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 21:17:03
November 27 2015 20:45 GMT
#107974
On November 27 2015 12:43 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 06:48 FFGenerations wrote:
https://otakumode.com/shop/530439829582829957000e7c/Nyaruko

https://otakumode.com/shop/54eed3ffe39fe55532d4b150/Perfect-Posing-Products-Saber-Bride-Fate-Extra-CCC

nice headphones (i just ordered some £75 headphones tho)
https://jlist.com/pre6519



scene from madoka 3rd apparently but not a "spoiler" spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +



its fuckin fantastic


Interesting that you chose that Nero bride over the new GSC one I got.


nah i was just posting those coz coincidentlly i browsed them right after their agohe convo

i got a cheesecake, 3 energy drinks, a giant toblerone and 2 coca colas

gonna marathon some animes

maybe bakemonotagori if i can stand it and a madoka movie

i need some serious perks, im pretty depressed as shit right now, i literally almost cried earlier on the way to work when i played this song *will update with song later*

just got paid but need to give back £800 to my mom and then have like £700 spare to fix the car, £325 for rent, £150 for yet another week rental car potential, 400 for food and shit, 100 for whatever, then that leaves £475 for saving
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 21:12:55
November 27 2015 21:11 GMT
#107975
as the hugest dbz fan db super makes me depressed, this might end up worse than gt wow
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 23:11:52
November 27 2015 21:27 GMT
#107976
wow that took far fucking longer than it should have



play this and think about someone you loved
zomg


you listen to a song like that and at first think its pretty predictable and simple but after u listen more closely its actually pretty clever. i love that about many song that i love. like the other one i posted earlier (welcome to the mindfuck) it sounds like the same thing over and over but if you put on your headphones and listen you can hear its actually very cleverly done, stuff like loli miku entering later on and all sorts of stuff happening

ill totally post my progress with miku - melt on guitar this weekend


btw post some black friday anime stuff £££

all tshrits £10 at hot topic (only girls have good tshirts tho o/c fml)
http://www.hottopic.com/tees/?cm_sp=Homepage-_-Hero1-_-10DollarTees

http://www.hottopic.com/product/marvel-black-panther-sublimation-costume-t-shirt/10495815.html
why do men only get fucktard tshirts

look i dont know why i'm shopping for tshirts its not like i ever leave the house without a hoody on
im literally the guy from Mr Robot
except fat


testie you were into this werent you
https://otakumode.com/shop/pickup/na-aniplexplus
edit: o wait dats totally the wrong anime


idk if i showed you guys my asuka, she is a bit shy but here

[image loading]

she is this one
(edit) http://myfigurecollection.net/picture/1245145&ref=item:1298
she looks a bit gritty in some of those pictures but shes actually very clean and fine


edit look at the detail on this for a £30 figure holy shit
https://figuya.com/en/products/awoken-minerva-kakusei-minerva
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 27 2015 23:07 GMT
#107977
On November 28 2015 03:14 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 20:58 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 10:39 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 02:09 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:54 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:24 Numy wrote:
Wow this girls volleyball team in Haikyuu is so hot. Why can't we get a burning sports anime with them!


Doesn't cater to fujoshis.

Regarding Haikyuu: Could you make a post once you finished it with your genuine thoughts about it? I'm curious.


I mean I'm half way and can give you my thoughts now, they won't change by the end. It's just your standard shounen sports anime. Cast is reasonable as always. Got the weird oddly close special first year pair, the older serious but nice captain who puts in his all to still be relevant, the old ace who gets powered up by the new special oddly close pair and the cute manager who surprises the team every now and then with inspiration. Oh also the rival school from a different prefecture that they practice with at the start and use as their "dream" to beat each other at nationals.

If you like this kind of thing than Haikyuu is for you. Characters are all decent enough and animation/sound is good. Story is pretty run of the mill as always. Manager is hotter than Kuroko's but not as big a character so don't know if that's a plus. It doesn't quite have the burning passion that Symphogear has or the slightly lesser heat of Kuroko though. I'd label it under "trashy pandering show that's fun" if that helps. There are worse ways to spend your time but it won't be something you remember years later.

Now Cross Game on the other hand is far more special. If you want a sports anime that isn't your usual shounen cut and paste then check that out. I'm not much of a sports anime man so there may be other older ones that are just as good.

Miragee if you want more indepth I can do it after I'm done I guess. It's not something that warrants that level of effort or thought though lol


Nah, this is already more than I expected, thanks!^^ It was just general curiosity because people hype that show, especially s2, through the roof. S2 is ranked 15 on MAL (I know, you might want to take this as an indicator that it's a mediocre show but once in a while there are exceptions). Since you recommended me some of my (now) favourite shows I thought I would just ask you what you think about it it, when you mentioned it.

I think I'll give it a pass then. On the other hand, I will keep an eye on Cross Game though. I'm not really into sports anime. I watched a bit of Hajime no Ippo and it was ok but I put it on hold for other things I wanted to watch. The only other anime is Chihayafuru I think which I really enjoyed because of the characters and mood, especially the mood of the game.


On November 27 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Dammit my joke fails if you all back me up So mean

You guys that watched Arslan how do you rate it? Worth watching or should I just avoid it.


I only watched the first 10 episodes, so take this with a grain of salt:

I gave it a 5/10 because it was really just about average in any aspect. It didn't do anything particularly bad but it also didn't do anything particularly well. It was also pretty plain and boring. Imagine LotGH pacing and story-telling techniques in a medieval setting without any decent characters, let alone great ones like in LotGH, that can handle any interesting conversations and without two parties on the same level. Arslan is pretty much a one-way ownage by Narsus.


A show that hits high on a ranking site like MAL doesn't mean it's good, it means it fits the view of what the base of that site views as good. That's a pretty important distinction to make and carries over to almost all forms of aggregated ranking.

So what does this all mean for Haikyuu? It's a model sports anime for the average anime viewer. If I were to make a template of "how to make a successful sports anime" shows like Haikyuu and Kuroko would fit that template exactly, never deviating from it. It's a perfectly safe show that never tries to do anything outside of the template. Turns out that's all you need to get hyped really. If you want that kind of safe show then Haikyuu is perfect for that.

I completely forgot about Chihayafuru when talking about good non-normal sports anime . If you liked that you'll like Cross game I think. Cross game is hardly even a sports anime in the traditional sense. It deals with sports yes but it's primary focus is on the characters. There's 50 episodes that take place across ~4 years so that's already atypical. Normally sports anime focus really hard on that one national run.

As a side note I kind of get annoyed at how formulaic the LN/Manga industry is which leads to anime industry being the same. I understand from a business POV it's risky to go for original content but at least try push the boundaries of what is safe a little.

ps: Saber rant and just general women in anime rant, mainly my hatred for Yamato Nadeshiko
+ Show Spoiler +
So saber as a concept I enjoy immensely, a female legendary king Arthur is just super cool. Even her design I love, it's cute yet has potential seriousness depending on the situation. All this make the execution of the character anger me greatly.

SHE IS KING FUCKING ARTHUR FOR FUCKSAKES. WHY IS SHE SUCH A WEAK CHARACTER

So let's just ignore what Saber is and look solely at who she is meant to be and what themes that should bring about. King Arthur, A mythical King of Camelot and Knights. Fights magical battles and leads. A mythical king should have presence,authority and charisma. This is a person that is the the ideal Knights are meant to aspire to be.

Saber shows almost none of the qualities I just mentioned. Alexander has presence from his sheer size and a natural authority in the way he speaks. Gilgamesh oozes charisma and authority with everything he does. Saber this mythical King has none of this. She's essentially a girl that can fight. That's it. It's fucking disgusting. Where is this immensely powerful authority that draws in all the aspiring knights from around the country? It just pisses me off so dam much that TM took this concept and instead of bring forth this powerful woman we get this cutesy character instead. You don't need to undermine the character in order to humanize them either. Urobutcher did a perfectly good job of writing Alexander to be both relatable and yet keep his immense presence. I know Nasu isn't as good a writer as Urobutcher and the VN style doesn't lend itself well to good writing but it's not like Saber in FZ was any different. That's how they want the Character to be and it makes me rage. Why can't I have this strong powerful women with presence and authority without undermining all that to make her cute? Just arg. Congratulations Type-Moon, you managed to take a mythical character and turn them into a joke

This leads onto the Yamato Nadeshiko rant. This concept disgusts me. I get it's a cultural difference but that doesn't mean I just accept it as is. Hell this isn't even that big a cultural difference as traditional christian views are basically the same. The women is a servant to the household and must obey the man. This arg. JUST ARG. Characters like Onodera piss me off so much because they play into this whole trope which I hate so dam much. I must be doing something wrong since the majority of anime viewer base seems to love this trope. My concept of an ideal women or relationship is one that she doesn't need. We both don't need the relationship to be who we are but we want to be with each other. She's smart,strong and capable without me but being together is just what we want. The whole "she's not really submissive" is just such a bullshit excuse. Part of the reason I dropped Bakuman at the start was because of the family dynamic. The son asks the mother to do something and she says no, he begs her to ask the father which she does and he says yes. That's it. No discussion between parents or anything. Father says yes so that's end of story. It's sick. These people are meant to be partners, how can you have a partnership when one is above the other. Yanger and Neo told me that's just how asian households work but fk it I don't want it in my anime.

Rant concluded. It just was something that I needed to vent on.



This is pre ww2/reconstruction Yamato nadeshiko. Modern one is pretty different. And saber isn't Yamato nadeshiko. Generally, kuuderes and Yamato nadeshiko are combined into one trope from what I

And vn style doesn't lend itself well to good writing? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Not the fate VN no. Essentially FSN should be one continuous series where Shirou undergoes the character progression he's meant to go in one story where as FSN route style means you have 3 weaker stories that are meant to build off each other which doesn't really work well. There's no reason for the story to restart itself to build his character. Even then it's possible for this kind of style to work if the writer actually made use of the recursion to build something. Instead nothing happens.

In general what VNs have "good writing"?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-27 23:13:02
November 27 2015 23:11 GMT
#107978
On November 28 2015 08:07 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 03:14 IceHism wrote:
On November 27 2015 20:58 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 10:39 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 02:09 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:54 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:24 Numy wrote:
Wow this girls volleyball team in Haikyuu is so hot. Why can't we get a burning sports anime with them!


Doesn't cater to fujoshis.

Regarding Haikyuu: Could you make a post once you finished it with your genuine thoughts about it? I'm curious.


I mean I'm half way and can give you my thoughts now, they won't change by the end. It's just your standard shounen sports anime. Cast is reasonable as always. Got the weird oddly close special first year pair, the older serious but nice captain who puts in his all to still be relevant, the old ace who gets powered up by the new special oddly close pair and the cute manager who surprises the team every now and then with inspiration. Oh also the rival school from a different prefecture that they practice with at the start and use as their "dream" to beat each other at nationals.

If you like this kind of thing than Haikyuu is for you. Characters are all decent enough and animation/sound is good. Story is pretty run of the mill as always. Manager is hotter than Kuroko's but not as big a character so don't know if that's a plus. It doesn't quite have the burning passion that Symphogear has or the slightly lesser heat of Kuroko though. I'd label it under "trashy pandering show that's fun" if that helps. There are worse ways to spend your time but it won't be something you remember years later.

Now Cross Game on the other hand is far more special. If you want a sports anime that isn't your usual shounen cut and paste then check that out. I'm not much of a sports anime man so there may be other older ones that are just as good.

Miragee if you want more indepth I can do it after I'm done I guess. It's not something that warrants that level of effort or thought though lol


Nah, this is already more than I expected, thanks!^^ It was just general curiosity because people hype that show, especially s2, through the roof. S2 is ranked 15 on MAL (I know, you might want to take this as an indicator that it's a mediocre show but once in a while there are exceptions). Since you recommended me some of my (now) favourite shows I thought I would just ask you what you think about it it, when you mentioned it.

I think I'll give it a pass then. On the other hand, I will keep an eye on Cross Game though. I'm not really into sports anime. I watched a bit of Hajime no Ippo and it was ok but I put it on hold for other things I wanted to watch. The only other anime is Chihayafuru I think which I really enjoyed because of the characters and mood, especially the mood of the game.


On November 27 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Dammit my joke fails if you all back me up So mean

You guys that watched Arslan how do you rate it? Worth watching or should I just avoid it.


I only watched the first 10 episodes, so take this with a grain of salt:

I gave it a 5/10 because it was really just about average in any aspect. It didn't do anything particularly bad but it also didn't do anything particularly well. It was also pretty plain and boring. Imagine LotGH pacing and story-telling techniques in a medieval setting without any decent characters, let alone great ones like in LotGH, that can handle any interesting conversations and without two parties on the same level. Arslan is pretty much a one-way ownage by Narsus.


A show that hits high on a ranking site like MAL doesn't mean it's good, it means it fits the view of what the base of that site views as good. That's a pretty important distinction to make and carries over to almost all forms of aggregated ranking.

So what does this all mean for Haikyuu? It's a model sports anime for the average anime viewer. If I were to make a template of "how to make a successful sports anime" shows like Haikyuu and Kuroko would fit that template exactly, never deviating from it. It's a perfectly safe show that never tries to do anything outside of the template. Turns out that's all you need to get hyped really. If you want that kind of safe show then Haikyuu is perfect for that.

I completely forgot about Chihayafuru when talking about good non-normal sports anime . If you liked that you'll like Cross game I think. Cross game is hardly even a sports anime in the traditional sense. It deals with sports yes but it's primary focus is on the characters. There's 50 episodes that take place across ~4 years so that's already atypical. Normally sports anime focus really hard on that one national run.

As a side note I kind of get annoyed at how formulaic the LN/Manga industry is which leads to anime industry being the same. I understand from a business POV it's risky to go for original content but at least try push the boundaries of what is safe a little.

ps: Saber rant and just general women in anime rant, mainly my hatred for Yamato Nadeshiko
+ Show Spoiler +
So saber as a concept I enjoy immensely, a female legendary king Arthur is just super cool. Even her design I love, it's cute yet has potential seriousness depending on the situation. All this make the execution of the character anger me greatly.

SHE IS KING FUCKING ARTHUR FOR FUCKSAKES. WHY IS SHE SUCH A WEAK CHARACTER

So let's just ignore what Saber is and look solely at who she is meant to be and what themes that should bring about. King Arthur, A mythical King of Camelot and Knights. Fights magical battles and leads. A mythical king should have presence,authority and charisma. This is a person that is the the ideal Knights are meant to aspire to be.

Saber shows almost none of the qualities I just mentioned. Alexander has presence from his sheer size and a natural authority in the way he speaks. Gilgamesh oozes charisma and authority with everything he does. Saber this mythical King has none of this. She's essentially a girl that can fight. That's it. It's fucking disgusting. Where is this immensely powerful authority that draws in all the aspiring knights from around the country? It just pisses me off so dam much that TM took this concept and instead of bring forth this powerful woman we get this cutesy character instead. You don't need to undermine the character in order to humanize them either. Urobutcher did a perfectly good job of writing Alexander to be both relatable and yet keep his immense presence. I know Nasu isn't as good a writer as Urobutcher and the VN style doesn't lend itself well to good writing but it's not like Saber in FZ was any different. That's how they want the Character to be and it makes me rage. Why can't I have this strong powerful women with presence and authority without undermining all that to make her cute? Just arg. Congratulations Type-Moon, you managed to take a mythical character and turn them into a joke

This leads onto the Yamato Nadeshiko rant. This concept disgusts me. I get it's a cultural difference but that doesn't mean I just accept it as is. Hell this isn't even that big a cultural difference as traditional christian views are basically the same. The women is a servant to the household and must obey the man. This arg. JUST ARG. Characters like Onodera piss me off so much because they play into this whole trope which I hate so dam much. I must be doing something wrong since the majority of anime viewer base seems to love this trope. My concept of an ideal women or relationship is one that she doesn't need. We both don't need the relationship to be who we are but we want to be with each other. She's smart,strong and capable without me but being together is just what we want. The whole "she's not really submissive" is just such a bullshit excuse. Part of the reason I dropped Bakuman at the start was because of the family dynamic. The son asks the mother to do something and she says no, he begs her to ask the father which she does and he says yes. That's it. No discussion between parents or anything. Father says yes so that's end of story. It's sick. These people are meant to be partners, how can you have a partnership when one is above the other. Yanger and Neo told me that's just how asian households work but fk it I don't want it in my anime.

Rant concluded. It just was something that I needed to vent on.



This is pre ww2/reconstruction Yamato nadeshiko. Modern one is pretty different. And saber isn't Yamato nadeshiko. Generally, kuuderes and Yamato nadeshiko are combined into one trope from what I

And vn style doesn't lend itself well to good writing? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Not the fate VN no. Essentially FSN should be one continuous series where Shirou undergoes the character progression he's meant to go in one story where as FSN route style means you have 3 weaker stories that are meant to build off each other which doesn't really work well. There's no reason for the story to restart itself to build his character. Even then it's possible for this kind of style to work if the writer actually made use of the recursion to build something. Instead nothing happens.

In general what VNs have "good writing"?

Ever17, Muv-Luv Alternative, Higurashi, Umineko, Sharin no Kuni, parts of Rewrite, to name some of my favorites. Then again, when it comes to "writing" as it applies to anime/manga/VNs, no one actually means the same thing when they use that word.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-28 00:08:01
November 27 2015 23:47 GMT
#107979
nice i just ordered len
This product is expected to ship in July 2016.

K I BORT MOETAN TOO LOL SOMEONE STOP ME
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-28 00:21:17
November 28 2015 00:20 GMT
#107980
On November 28 2015 08:07 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 03:14 IceHism wrote:
On November 27 2015 20:58 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 10:39 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 02:09 Numy wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:54 Miragee wrote:
On November 27 2015 01:24 Numy wrote:
Wow this girls volleyball team in Haikyuu is so hot. Why can't we get a burning sports anime with them!


Doesn't cater to fujoshis.

Regarding Haikyuu: Could you make a post once you finished it with your genuine thoughts about it? I'm curious.


I mean I'm half way and can give you my thoughts now, they won't change by the end. It's just your standard shounen sports anime. Cast is reasonable as always. Got the weird oddly close special first year pair, the older serious but nice captain who puts in his all to still be relevant, the old ace who gets powered up by the new special oddly close pair and the cute manager who surprises the team every now and then with inspiration. Oh also the rival school from a different prefecture that they practice with at the start and use as their "dream" to beat each other at nationals.

If you like this kind of thing than Haikyuu is for you. Characters are all decent enough and animation/sound is good. Story is pretty run of the mill as always. Manager is hotter than Kuroko's but not as big a character so don't know if that's a plus. It doesn't quite have the burning passion that Symphogear has or the slightly lesser heat of Kuroko though. I'd label it under "trashy pandering show that's fun" if that helps. There are worse ways to spend your time but it won't be something you remember years later.

Now Cross Game on the other hand is far more special. If you want a sports anime that isn't your usual shounen cut and paste then check that out. I'm not much of a sports anime man so there may be other older ones that are just as good.

Miragee if you want more indepth I can do it after I'm done I guess. It's not something that warrants that level of effort or thought though lol


Nah, this is already more than I expected, thanks!^^ It was just general curiosity because people hype that show, especially s2, through the roof. S2 is ranked 15 on MAL (I know, you might want to take this as an indicator that it's a mediocre show but once in a while there are exceptions). Since you recommended me some of my (now) favourite shows I thought I would just ask you what you think about it it, when you mentioned it.

I think I'll give it a pass then. On the other hand, I will keep an eye on Cross Game though. I'm not really into sports anime. I watched a bit of Hajime no Ippo and it was ok but I put it on hold for other things I wanted to watch. The only other anime is Chihayafuru I think which I really enjoyed because of the characters and mood, especially the mood of the game.


On November 27 2015 04:05 Numy wrote:
Dammit my joke fails if you all back me up So mean

You guys that watched Arslan how do you rate it? Worth watching or should I just avoid it.


I only watched the first 10 episodes, so take this with a grain of salt:

I gave it a 5/10 because it was really just about average in any aspect. It didn't do anything particularly bad but it also didn't do anything particularly well. It was also pretty plain and boring. Imagine LotGH pacing and story-telling techniques in a medieval setting without any decent characters, let alone great ones like in LotGH, that can handle any interesting conversations and without two parties on the same level. Arslan is pretty much a one-way ownage by Narsus.


A show that hits high on a ranking site like MAL doesn't mean it's good, it means it fits the view of what the base of that site views as good. That's a pretty important distinction to make and carries over to almost all forms of aggregated ranking.

So what does this all mean for Haikyuu? It's a model sports anime for the average anime viewer. If I were to make a template of "how to make a successful sports anime" shows like Haikyuu and Kuroko would fit that template exactly, never deviating from it. It's a perfectly safe show that never tries to do anything outside of the template. Turns out that's all you need to get hyped really. If you want that kind of safe show then Haikyuu is perfect for that.

I completely forgot about Chihayafuru when talking about good non-normal sports anime . If you liked that you'll like Cross game I think. Cross game is hardly even a sports anime in the traditional sense. It deals with sports yes but it's primary focus is on the characters. There's 50 episodes that take place across ~4 years so that's already atypical. Normally sports anime focus really hard on that one national run.

As a side note I kind of get annoyed at how formulaic the LN/Manga industry is which leads to anime industry being the same. I understand from a business POV it's risky to go for original content but at least try push the boundaries of what is safe a little.

ps: Saber rant and just general women in anime rant, mainly my hatred for Yamato Nadeshiko
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So saber as a concept I enjoy immensely, a female legendary king Arthur is just super cool. Even her design I love, it's cute yet has potential seriousness depending on the situation. All this make the execution of the character anger me greatly.

SHE IS KING FUCKING ARTHUR FOR FUCKSAKES. WHY IS SHE SUCH A WEAK CHARACTER

So let's just ignore what Saber is and look solely at who she is meant to be and what themes that should bring about. King Arthur, A mythical King of Camelot and Knights. Fights magical battles and leads. A mythical king should have presence,authority and charisma. This is a person that is the the ideal Knights are meant to aspire to be.

Saber shows almost none of the qualities I just mentioned. Alexander has presence from his sheer size and a natural authority in the way he speaks. Gilgamesh oozes charisma and authority with everything he does. Saber this mythical King has none of this. She's essentially a girl that can fight. That's it. It's fucking disgusting. Where is this immensely powerful authority that draws in all the aspiring knights from around the country? It just pisses me off so dam much that TM took this concept and instead of bring forth this powerful woman we get this cutesy character instead. You don't need to undermine the character in order to humanize them either. Urobutcher did a perfectly good job of writing Alexander to be both relatable and yet keep his immense presence. I know Nasu isn't as good a writer as Urobutcher and the VN style doesn't lend itself well to good writing but it's not like Saber in FZ was any different. That's how they want the Character to be and it makes me rage. Why can't I have this strong powerful women with presence and authority without undermining all that to make her cute? Just arg. Congratulations Type-Moon, you managed to take a mythical character and turn them into a joke

This leads onto the Yamato Nadeshiko rant. This concept disgusts me. I get it's a cultural difference but that doesn't mean I just accept it as is. Hell this isn't even that big a cultural difference as traditional christian views are basically the same. The women is a servant to the household and must obey the man. This arg. JUST ARG. Characters like Onodera piss me off so much because they play into this whole trope which I hate so dam much. I must be doing something wrong since the majority of anime viewer base seems to love this trope. My concept of an ideal women or relationship is one that she doesn't need. We both don't need the relationship to be who we are but we want to be with each other. She's smart,strong and capable without me but being together is just what we want. The whole "she's not really submissive" is just such a bullshit excuse. Part of the reason I dropped Bakuman at the start was because of the family dynamic. The son asks the mother to do something and she says no, he begs her to ask the father which she does and he says yes. That's it. No discussion between parents or anything. Father says yes so that's end of story. It's sick. These people are meant to be partners, how can you have a partnership when one is above the other. Yanger and Neo told me that's just how asian households work but fk it I don't want it in my anime.

Rant concluded. It just was something that I needed to vent on.



This is pre ww2/reconstruction Yamato nadeshiko. Modern one is pretty different. And saber isn't Yamato nadeshiko. Generally, kuuderes and Yamato nadeshiko are combined into one trope from what I

And vn style doesn't lend itself well to good writing? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Not the fate VN no. Essentially FSN should be one continuous series where Shirou undergoes the character progression he's meant to go in one story where as FSN route style means you have 3 weaker stories that are meant to build off each other which doesn't really work well. There's no reason for the story to restart itself to build his character. Even then it's possible for this kind of style to work if the writer actually made use of the recursion to build something. Instead nothing happens.

In general what VNs have "good writing"?


well yea, if you take fate vn as representative of the medium, then of course you will be disappointed.

Vns with good writing? besides the ones sent mentioned
Baldr Sky, Muramasa, Dies Irae, Subarashiki hibi, Cross Channel, Steins;Gate, Shiei no sona-nyl, albatross, himawari, mahoyo, white album 2, oretsuba, and more
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