|
If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.ggFor currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net |
Oh I thought he was talking about the audience. Yea anime was very different 10 years ago. If you watch shows from 1995 onwards to like 2009 you see a few distinct shifts in the medium. The funniest to me is the shift from 24 ep shows to 13 ep shows that happens around 2008/2009. It's the most pronounced I found at least.
On July 28 2015 06:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Call me a moron, but I didn't manage to watch GitS SAC completely yet. It is high quality and each episode is somewhat interesting, but I prefer animes with more plot between the episodes and GitS seems rather episodical from what I saw until like EP 13. So while PP isn't exactly my favorite anime, I had no problems watching it because I wanted to know what happens next. I didn't have that feeling in GitS yet, maybe it would have come later but idk.
The shift from largely episodic also happened. Although shows now are just as episodic they just disguise it a lot better and have a shorter length so it isn't as noticeable. Even PP had a few eps that didn't really tie into the main storyline. It's kind of funny since a lot of those singular episodes feel like they tell a more complete story than most of these 13 ep anime. A resolution had to occur within the timeframe as it was merely an ep within a show instead of a show that doesn't require any real resolution so it just aimlessly wanders about for a bit until getting a climax towards the end that will hopefully make up sales.
Man I hate this 1 cor bullshit so much. All it seems to have done is given us shitty rushed stories. I mean fuck they only have 13 eps yet still throw in random garbage fillers half the time. Then you get shows like that Imou battle who have no fucking clue what they want to do so just do enough random garbage in the hopes of tagging you along. I think i'm going to bed. Fuck this I'm so pissed now because of this dude. Only OnC with Shinjou's soft gentle loving can comfort me now. I wonder if her butt is tighter when she's a guy
|
What the fuck at episode 14 of Big O.
I mean it wasn't a bad episode but what the fuck was that.
|
Do you even bother rewatching stuff though to justify this?
I used to have an external HD with anime shows... but at this point, every season, I am watching a few shows and don't want to spend money upgrading my Hard Drives...
Also, so far, I've only rewatched a handful of shows (1 hand would probably be enough...)
|
so I just finished watching Nisekoi and Oregairu and I need more of those, could any recommend any anime similar to one of these? I'm struggling to find anything myself
|
On July 28 2015 06:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Call me a moron, but I didn't manage to watch GitS SAC completely yet. It is high quality and each episode is somewhat interesting, but I prefer animes with more plot between the episodes and GitS seems rather episodical from what I saw until like EP 13. So while PP isn't exactly my favorite anime, I had no problems watching it because I wanted to know what happens next. I didn't have that feeling in GitS yet, maybe it would have come later but idk.
The thing with SAC for me was: I didn't want to watch the next episode because I wanted to know what would happen. I wanted to watch the next episode because I knew it was going to be good. If you think about it, that's a great achievement. Shitty shows manage to "force" your mind into the "I want to know what will happen"-state pretty easily by throwing cliff-hangers and stuff. Hell, I even finished up Highschool of the Dead because I wanted to know how it ends.
As for SAC: Around ep20 the plot will become continuous and you will feel the urge to watch nonstop, I promise. :>
On July 28 2015 06:36 Numy wrote:
Oh I thought he was talking about the audience. Yea anime was very different 10 years ago. If you watch shows from 1995 onwards to like 2009 you see a few distinct shifts in the medium. The funniest to me is the shift from 24 ep shows to 13 ep shows that happens around 2008/2009. It's the most pronounced I found at least.
I was talking about both, audience and the medium.
On July 28 2015 06:36 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 06:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Call me a moron, but I didn't manage to watch GitS SAC completely yet. It is high quality and each episode is somewhat interesting, but I prefer animes with more plot between the episodes and GitS seems rather episodical from what I saw until like EP 13. So while PP isn't exactly my favorite anime, I had no problems watching it because I wanted to know what happens next. I didn't have that feeling in GitS yet, maybe it would have come later but idk. The shift from largely episodic also happened. Although shows now are just as episodic they just disguise it a lot better and have a shorter length so it isn't as noticeable. Even PP had a few eps that didn't really tie into the main storyline. It's kind of funny since a lot of those singular episodes feel like they tell a more complete story than most of these 13 ep anime. A resolution had to occur within the timeframe as it was merely an ep within a show instead of a show that doesn't require any real resolution so it just aimlessly wanders about for a bit until getting a climax towards the end that will hopefully make up sales. Man I hate this 1 cor bullshit so much. All it seems to have done is given us shitty rushed stories. I mean fuck they only have 13 eps yet still throw in random garbage fillers half the time. Then you get shows like that Imou battle who have no fucking clue what they want to do so just do enough random garbage in the hopes of tagging you along. I think i'm going to bed. Fuck this I'm so pissed now because of this dude. Only OnC with Shinjou's soft gentle loving can comfort me now. I wonder if her butt is tighter when she's a guy
I already heared that anime stopped being mostly episodic somewhere in the 90's. Someone mentioned it when I rambled about LotGH. This whole change is pretty interesting and I would like to know what would have happened if it had stayed in a certain state of development until now.
Ahm, and by whom are you pissed of?
|
On July 28 2015 06:55 Alchemik wrote:
so I just finished watching Nisekoi and Oregairu and I need more of those, could any recommend any anime similar to one of these? I'm struggling to find anything myself
both have a season2 that aired just last season. If you havn't watched that go try that for sure. OreGairu 2 had a pretty lackluster ending due to some questionable decisions about how they planned the season but you'll like it if you liked season1.
Other than that, depends on what you liked about Nisekoi and Oregairu. Oregairu is heavily monologue driven as most of the entertainment just stems from listening to hachiman talking to himself and sometimes the dialogues for me. In that sense it might even be compareable to Bakemonogatari or monogatari in general.
Nisekoi is a bit hard to find something similar, most harems tend to be worse. If you liked the harem/romance/comedy aspects, you could perhaps try out Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru. Not as good as Nisekoi but pretty similar. It's also very unique/different in animation-style so if the SHAFT is what you liked you'll like that part about it as well I'd assume. Other than that, Nisekoi has 1 (? only 1?) OVA to it's name, check that out if you liked it.
Mikakunin de Shinkoukei would be another thing I'd recommend. Not really a harem like Nisekoi but if you liked the comedy in Nisekoi that should be decent as well.
Another recent comedy/harem I liked would be Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata (starts with the 1 episode special Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata: Ai to Seishun no Service Kai !!!!). Not really all that similar... but like I said, the amount of good harem/comedy is pretty limited if you don't want to go lewd. Very refreshing main-girl.
If you don't mind the lewd and just want plain harem/comedy Amagi Brilliant Park and No Game No Life could be something for you. It's not porn along the lines of TLR/Highschool DxD but it's certainly more lewd than Nisekoi.
If you can go a bit more into detail what exactly it is you liked about the shows it'd be a bit easier to pin it down.
|
If you didn't watch 80s TV anime, you didn't see anime. Period.
There is no debating about this.
|
On July 28 2015 07:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
If you didn't watch 80s TV anime, you didn't see anime. Period.
There is no debating about this.
Too young fort hat -_-
That said, just discovered a manga called Gamble Fish.
Already read 60 chapters! Pretty crazy/fun. I'd say my biggest pleasure is to learn how the MC wins the game with crazy strat
|
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 28 2015 03:33 Maxie wrote:
I only have a few shows permanently on my computer, things I tend to rewatch. The rest just gets deleted when I need more space.
And I just finished S2 of Aria. I'm really, really enjoying it now. Some episodes were simply relaxing or even a bit boring, but there's a lot of them that ended up being flat out great.
pretty much this. Don't have much room so I have ones that I figure I'll rewatch parts of, otherwise, everything is deleted by season's end.
On July 28 2015 07:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
If you didn't watch 80s TV anime, you didn't see anime. Period.
There is no debating about this.
what? This reeks of those 9gag kind of posts where people put up pictures from 90s cartoons and then claim that 90s kids rule and other crap. It's elitism at its fine and it really comes down to preference. I've watched 80s TV anime before and current ones and aside from nostalgia, I'd say they are pretty comparable story-wise. So, help me understand, why is it that if you haven't watched 80s anime, you haven't seen anime?
|
I don't really like episodic shows. That's my main problem with a certain shows airing this season like Charlotte and Game of Laplace. All the story is wrapped up so dully in 1 episode and there is no tension. I can't invest into the characters either.
Not really talking about the old shows though. I watched them so long ago that I don't really trust my memory.
If there is something I'm nostalgic about back then, it would probably be when the country was still booming and everything was growing. Shows had more than 1 cours and writers tackled more ambitious themes due to greater freedom at experimentation on average. Now the lost generation just makes me sad 
|
On July 28 2015 08:19 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 03:33 Maxie wrote:
I only have a few shows permanently on my computer, things I tend to rewatch. The rest just gets deleted when I need more space.
And I just finished S2 of Aria. I'm really, really enjoying it now. Some episodes were simply relaxing or even a bit boring, but there's a lot of them that ended up being flat out great. pretty much this. Don't have much room so I have ones that I figure I'll rewatch parts of, otherwise, everything is deleted by season's end. Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 07:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
If you didn't watch 80s TV anime, you didn't see anime. Period.
There is no debating about this. what? This reeks of those 9gag kind of posts where people put up pictures from 90s cartoons and then claim that 90s kids rule and other crap. It's elitism at its fine and it really comes down to preference. I've watched 80s TV anime before and current ones and aside from nostalgia, I'd say they are pretty comparable story-wise. So, help me understand, why is it that if you haven't watched 80s anime, you haven't seen anime?
While this might be funny coming from me, hes just being really elitist.
But all elitism aside, I do believe the 80s was the Golden Age of anime, and there are many more timeless classics from that decade than there are from any other decade since (or before, lol 70s)
+ Show Spoiler +Btw Gundam Wing aka "the Original Gundam" doesn't count as an 80s anime
|
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 28 2015 09:28 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 08:19 BigFan wrote:On July 28 2015 03:33 Maxie wrote:
I only have a few shows permanently on my computer, things I tend to rewatch. The rest just gets deleted when I need more space.
And I just finished S2 of Aria. I'm really, really enjoying it now. Some episodes were simply relaxing or even a bit boring, but there's a lot of them that ended up being flat out great. pretty much this. Don't have much room so I have ones that I figure I'll rewatch parts of, otherwise, everything is deleted by season's end. On July 28 2015 07:43 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
If you didn't watch 80s TV anime, you didn't see anime. Period.
There is no debating about this. what? This reeks of those 9gag kind of posts where people put up pictures from 90s cartoons and then claim that 90s kids rule and other crap. It's elitism at its fine and it really comes down to preference. I've watched 80s TV anime before and current ones and aside from nostalgia, I'd say they are pretty comparable story-wise. So, help me understand, why is it that if you haven't watched 80s anime, you haven't seen anime? While this might be funny coming from me, hes just being really elitist. But all elitism aside, I do believe the 80s was the Golden Age of anime, and there are many more timeless classics from that decade than there are from any other decade since (or before, lol 70s) + Show Spoiler +Btw Gundam Wing aka "the Original Gundam" doesn't count as an 80s anime
I see your point lol.
hmm it's possible. I can't claim to have a ton of old anime experience, but, I remember enjoying anime like Taiyou no Ko Esteban and others around its time when I was younger. Mind listing some of those timeless classics? I know I watched a lot more than the several in my MAL list so would be nice to see if I've watched any of the classics. Also, what's wrong with the 70s? Andes Shounen Pepero no Bouken and Mirai Shounen Conan are two 70s anime that I loved when I was younger. I watched Mirai Shounen Conan about 6-7 years back and it's still as good as I remember lol.
+ Show Spoiler +lol, you aren't going to let that go, are you?  Either way, I say continue! It doesn't really bother me XD
|
The 70s had like 3 anime in it that have actually stood the test of time (Space Battleship Yamato, Gundam, and Zambot 3). The rest, while influential and important, suck. Most likely.
Classic 80s anime, although this is by no means a complete list:
+ Show Spoiler +Votoms
Gunbuster
Zeta Gundam
Char's Counterattack
Dunbine
Dougram
Bubblegum Crisis
Macross
Dragonball
Fist of the North Star
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Patlabor
Layzner
Wings of Honneamise
Akira
I'm forgetting a lot of films from the era.
One of the things to keep in mind with talking about older anime, is the only old anime anyone ever actually watches now days are the classics. There was probably plenty of absolute garbage back then. But no one is gonna watch 30-year-old shitty anime from the 80s now days, much less sub it. So whats left are the gems of the era. Its like history is being our own personal quality checker.
edit: man, Mysterious Cities of Gold was probably the first thing I remember watching on TV, ever. That used to be my main shit back when I was like 4 years old.
|
My score for 80s anime is by far the highest, but that's just a function of I only watched best series.
3 of my fav are from 80s though: usurei yatsura, maison ikkoku, and miyuki
Also touch, captain tsubasa, but both I prefer manga.
Then there are Saint Seiya and 2 Hojo ones.
|
I feel like I remember a Gigguk video about "the golden age" of anime.
I don't really feel like there is one. There are definitely seasons and years which went up and down, but trying to determine the quality of a whole decade vs another seems insane, because I guarantee even the more hardcore people on this thread only remember the good stuff from 70s, 80s, 90s etc. There was a lot of stuff back then.
If we're talking about the most influential stuff, then that's going to be a debate on what you think led anime in the "right" direction. I know some people here believe that stuff like SAO and SnK is turning anime into something awful, but others (I don't think anybody here) think it's taking anime in a good direction.
Personally I'm a pretty big fan of the 2000s. A lot of the more slapstick/silly humor that is in shows today seemed to have been refined there with stuff like Nichijou and Nichibros. Also, growing up with it, I fucking loved the kids' shows of that time. It's cringy now, but not as bad as some of the kids' anime on these days.
|
Most of the anime from the 80s I only know from small snippets I managed to catch from when the old Sci Fi channel used to broadcast some from time to time. Unfortunately I do not remember which series I saw those bits of. The only anime from the 80s I remember is the Gall Force movie series because back then in my child mind it left some kind of impression and I went and found copies of the movies to rent heh. Pretty sure they don't qualify as being "good" though.
|
Its next to impossible to judge new/recent stuff on how "influential" it is. You can only judge something on that after time has passed. As far as how "influential" SAO or SnK is? Well, how much of them can you see in stuff that came after them? How many times do you watch a show and say, "Huh, this part must have been inspired by SAO or SnK"? I honestly don't know, I don't watch as much currently airing stuff as you people. But it has nothing to do with if it leads anime in the right direction or not. I think Evangelion led anime in a bad direction, but I'd be crazy not to call it one of the most influential animes ever made.
|
Huh JWWW Anime.+ Show Spoiler + I see they are throwing in things in from later in the manga. Not a bad move I suppose, but the original way it was done was better.
Akagami continues to be really cute.
|
On July 28 2015 06:55 Alchemik wrote:
so I just finished watching Nisekoi and Oregairu and I need more of those, could any recommend any anime similar to one of these? I'm struggling to find anything myself
If you already watched both season 2 and read the LN(oregairu) and manga (nisekoi).
Similar~ish to Nisekoi:
Seitokai no Ichizon(Harem-Comedy but unlike Raku this MC is aware of the harem tries to take advantage of it rofl)
Saekano (Harem-Comedy)
Clannad (Harem-Comedy but drama~ish don't worry though this show can get really hilarious)
Similar~ish to Oregairu:
Monogatari Series (i guess cause they have monologues but reminder that monogatari can be lewd and the animation can be weird .. it's also harem-comedy)
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (has some of really weird-ass monolouges)
Clannad (also similar to oregairu cause drama and harem-comedy )
that's the most similar i could remember .. both shows are like romcom and harem so it should not be hard to find similar shows outside that
|
Clannad is pretty light on the harem concept.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ELOiwj5.png)
