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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 12 2015 11:32 GMT
#98221
On May 12 2015 14:14 Just_a_Moth wrote:
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On May 12 2015 11:08 tonight wrote:
I just watched the first EP of texhnolyze. ZNF, what am I watching TT

Keep on going. It just gets more "what am I watching," at least I think so. Been a while since I watched it.

No, I think it gets more "oh wow." >__>

Texhnolyze is far from a mindfuck.

On May 12 2015 11:53 KazeHydra wrote:
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On May 12 2015 11:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On May 12 2015 11:08 tonight wrote:
I just watched the first EP of texhnolyze. ZNF, what am I watching TT

LMAO

dat progress :3

On May 12 2015 11:15 tonight wrote:
2nd ep remains in a Wtf state

okay...I don't think it's honestly that confusing -3-

Of course it's not that confusing. Nothing happens for like 9 episodes.

pls sooo many things happen
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 12 2015 12:11 GMT
#98222
ZNF is too hipster for your opinions.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
May 12 2015 12:49 GMT
#98223
The best anime out is clearly Fate Stay Night from ufotable.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 12 2015 13:21 GMT
#98224
On May 12 2015 19:28 Numy wrote:
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On May 12 2015 14:15 BigFan wrote:
meh I feel you guys are too harsh on Mahouka, Valrave and some other series. It's been hinted that Mahouka's MC was OP from the start (pretty much during that first fight if I remember correctly) so I don't think it's a good reason to "put down" the anime for it. I enjoyed seeing just how OP he got though the ability that he used towards the end was a bit much imo. As for Valvrave, it could've done things better and explained some things further but overall, it was not that bad. Biggest problem for me was that it got boring at times and the story could've been more fleshed out.


The issue with Mahouka's MC is that all the girls and other characters are generally pretty interesting but his OPness overshadows them. If you just removed him the whole story would be better. Neo likes Miyuki gushing after him so he wouldn't enjoy it as much but apart from that it'll give the other characters more opportunities to shine. Well I also think the author is completely inconsistent in how he treats the emotions of the MC but I'll prob get shouted at if I start this again :<

I actually liked the LN for the most part except the last 2/3 which I found unbearably idiotic. Erika/Mari/Lina are really dam good and so is Miyuki when Tatsuya isn't around.

It's true, his OPness does overshadow some of the other characters but it's also the vision of the author that you are seeing (he wants someone whose's crazy OP lol) so it's one of those things you just gotta bear with if you are that interested in Mahouka. Personally, I really enjoyed the anime despite his OPness because it always made me wonder just what his real abilities are. I dunno though, it doesn't bother me much that other character don't get as much spotlight as a result. I just don't see why the anime gets lots of flak especially if someone already knew how it'll develop going into the anime. It's like people being mad over Tokyo Ghoul's second season despite knowing that they took a totally different direction from the start -_-
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
May 12 2015 14:46 GMT
#98225
Mushishi wow. Seems like they had a fairly low budget. All the blank faces. Also a lot of the side characters really look alike. But it's pretty much my only concern with the show so far and a pretty minor one at that. I just hope that there will be more in depth information in the future but so far I'm fine that I only get to see different forms of Mushi. The stories themselves have been very enjoyable so far.

On May 12 2015 21:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The best anime out is clearly Fate Stay Night from ufotable.


You mean airing? Not hard then because there is no anime this season that stands out in the least charackter-, story- or theme-wise so ubw just passes all of them because of the insane animation.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 15:47:04
May 12 2015 15:08 GMT
#98226
On May 12 2015 22:21 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 19:28 Numy wrote:
On May 12 2015 14:15 BigFan wrote:
meh I feel you guys are too harsh on Mahouka, Valrave and some other series. It's been hinted that Mahouka's MC was OP from the start (pretty much during that first fight if I remember correctly) so I don't think it's a good reason to "put down" the anime for it. I enjoyed seeing just how OP he got though the ability that he used towards the end was a bit much imo. As for Valvrave, it could've done things better and explained some things further but overall, it was not that bad. Biggest problem for me was that it got boring at times and the story could've been more fleshed out.


The issue with Mahouka's MC is that all the girls and other characters are generally pretty interesting but his OPness overshadows them. If you just removed him the whole story would be better. Neo likes Miyuki gushing after him so he wouldn't enjoy it as much but apart from that it'll give the other characters more opportunities to shine. Well I also think the author is completely inconsistent in how he treats the emotions of the MC but I'll prob get shouted at if I start this again :<

I actually liked the LN for the most part except the last 2/3 which I found unbearably idiotic. Erika/Mari/Lina are really dam good and so is Miyuki when Tatsuya isn't around.

It's true, his OPness does overshadow some of the other characters but it's also the vision of the author that you are seeing (he wants someone whose's crazy OP lol) so it's one of those things you just gotta bear with if you are that interested in Mahouka. Personally, I really enjoyed the anime despite his OPness because it always made me wonder just what his real abilities are. I dunno though, it doesn't bother me much that other character don't get as much spotlight as a result. I just don't see why the anime gets lots of flak especially if someone already knew how it'll develop going into the anime. It's like people being mad over Tokyo Ghoul's second season despite knowing that they took a totally different direction from the start -_-

Knowing that the MC of an anime is a magical ninja jesus batman going into it doesn't magically mean you can no longer say that you dislike that aspect of it.
I thought mahouka had a fairly interesting setting with some good characters but overall i felt that Tatsuya being not just OP but overall a very boring character kind of ruined it. I wasn't wondering how anything would end or be solved, because in the end the answer would always be SASUGA ONII-SAMA, which frankly got boring after the 20th time.

I didn't hate mahouka though, i thought it was passable/enjoyable and i felt like a lot got lost in the transition from text to animation because frankly i couldn't imagine anyone creating such a boring main character, i'm sure if i read the LN i wouldn't dislike him quite as much.
Disliking and complaining about one aspect of an story doesn't mean that you hate all of it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 15:12:47
May 12 2015 15:10 GMT
#98227
Afaik Mushishi is pretty much just episodical with no coherent plot? I watched a few episodes and while it was pretty, I couldn't keep watching it because I don't really like such shows.

As for Mahouka, Tatsuya was pretty cool and I REALLY liked the show except for the relationship between him and his "sister", it was pretty disturbing at times. :D
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 15:18:46
May 12 2015 15:18 GMT
#98228
Tatsuya isn't any less boring in the LN. The other characters are just even more interesting so he makes it worse
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 12 2015 15:20 GMT
#98229
The other characters are just ignored in the Anime. In the LN they actually have interesting aspects to them and do stuff. Anime has no time for that so it's just even more SASUGA ONII-SAMA while skipping all the scenes with friends doing shit.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
May 12 2015 15:38 GMT
#98230
On May 12 2015 23:46 Miragee wrote:
Mushishi wow. Seems like they had a fairly low budget. All the blank faces. Also a lot of the side characters really look alike. But it's pretty much my only concern with the show so far and a pretty minor one at that. I just hope that there will be more in depth information in the future but so far I'm fine that I only get to see different forms of Mushi. The stories themselves have been very enjoyable so far.


That has to be first time I hear people complain about Mushishi budget.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 15:48:09
May 12 2015 15:46 GMT
#98231
On May 13 2015 00:10 HolydaKing wrote:
Afaik Mushishi is pretty much just episodical with no coherent plot? I watched a few episodes and while it was pretty, I couldn't keep watching it because I don't really like such shows.

As for Mahouka, Tatsuya was pretty cool and I REALLY liked the show except for the relationship between him and his "sister", it was pretty disturbing at times. :D


Well yea, his sister is a sociopath. That is part of the point.
Which is why I'm worried what will happen now that they are engaged.

Also, the thing I don't like about mushishi is that the stories are so simple and so calm. No tension.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:07:00
May 12 2015 15:53 GMT
#98232
I love a good show with no tension every now and then. Sometimes i just need a good healing show.

I think the japanese word for that kind of shows is Iyashikei iirc, literally means healing afaik.

Edit: Regarding the whole fucking your sister thing, personally i don't care about incest. I don't dislike it but i definitely don't like it either, i'm just incredibly apathetic towards it.
It's fairly whatever-tier for me unless we're talking about generations of inbreeding, in which case it's definitely fairly wrong.
It probably wont be the reason i drop an anime but it definitely wont ever be the reason i pick one up.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 12 2015 15:55 GMT
#98233
Half the point is that there isn't any tension. It's just melancholy.

In a post apocalyptic world fucking your sister wouldn't be too frowned upon I guess so that may be where the author is going.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:20:27
May 12 2015 16:18 GMT
#98234
On May 13 2015 00:55 Numy wrote:
Half the point is that there isn't any tension. It's just melancholy.

In a post apocalyptic world fucking your sister wouldn't be too frowned upon I guess so that may be where the author is going.

Except that the author makes a point about it being really important for the magicians to marry/make kids early and properly because that supposedly makes the children so much better at magic, which is (supposed to be) the reason 16 year old highschool kids defeat military from other countries without breaking a sweat.

So in a society where such a big emphasis is put on marrying the guy or girl that will give your family the best possible children the whole fucking your sister thing becomes a bit weird again. I mean there's the Kudou kid as well and all.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 12 2015 16:22 GMT
#98235
I don't know, when I want to see healing stories. I usually just read or watch urobuchi stuff like madoka. I always had the image that healing stories are ones that take the characters through hell and then give them a happy ending.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:26:20
May 12 2015 16:24 GMT
#98236
On May 13 2015 01:18 Toadesstern wrote:
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On May 13 2015 00:55 Numy wrote:
Half the point is that there isn't any tension. It's just melancholy.

In a post apocalyptic world fucking your sister wouldn't be too frowned upon I guess so that may be where the author is going.

Except that the author makes a point about it being really important for the magicians to marry/make kids early and properly because that supposedly makes the children so much better at magic, which is (supposed to be) the reason 16 year old highschool kids defeat military from other countries without breaking a sweat.

So in a society where such a big emphasis is put on marrying the guy or girl that will give your family the best possible children the whole fucking your sister thing becomes a bit weird again. I mean there's the Kudou kid as well and all.


Huh that makes fucking your sister even smarter in this case. You got Miyuki, the best magician of her age and Tatsuya the jesus magic batman. I'd want babies of those two. Your point is more in support of the the sister fucking than against man. The only reason to marry outside the family is if you see more potential with another mate but in regards to those two they are the best in the whole of Japan so yea incest is gonna happen.

As for incest it's also meh to me. If it's a father/daughter or mother/son thing then that's totally off putting for me but two siblings I can handle to a degree. It helps that Miyuki is hot :D
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:27:28
May 12 2015 16:25 GMT
#98237
That's not what it means when people refer to healing anime/manga, it's more so stuff like K-on, Non non biyori or Yotsuba&!

Edit: Also there's some scientific ground behind having kids as fast as possible, the first eggs a woman 'readies' up for fertilization are generally speaking the healthiest.
There's a strong link between birth defects and maternal age.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:29:59
May 12 2015 16:28 GMT
#98238
On May 13 2015 01:24 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 01:18 Toadesstern wrote:
On May 13 2015 00:55 Numy wrote:
Half the point is that there isn't any tension. It's just melancholy.

In a post apocalyptic world fucking your sister wouldn't be too frowned upon I guess so that may be where the author is going.

Except that the author makes a point about it being really important for the magicians to marry/make kids early and properly because that supposedly makes the children so much better at magic, which is (supposed to be) the reason 16 year old highschool kids defeat military from other countries without breaking a sweat.

So in a society where such a big emphasis is put on marrying the guy or girl that will give your family the best possible children the whole fucking your sister thing becomes a bit weird again. I mean there's the Kudou kid as well and all.


Huh that makes fucking your sister even smarter in this case. You got Miyuki, the best magician of her age and Tatsuya the jesus magic batman. I'd want babies of those two. Your point is more in support of the the sister fucking than against man. The only reason to marry outside the family is if you see more potential with another mate but in regards to those two they are the best in the whole of Japan so yea incest is gonna happen.

As for incest it's also meh to me. If it's a father/daughter or mother/son thing then that's totally off putting for me but two siblings I can handle to a degree.


That's why I mentioend the kudou kid... You know, the whole part about him being in a wheelchair and not being able to actually do shit despite having magic power that supposedly rivals that of miyuki and having a sister who is also a strategic class magician?

I guess, you could make a point of them making lots of babies, using the ones that turned out decent and throwing the other ones in the trash, literally. But that'd probably be a bit dark.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:35:38
May 12 2015 16:30 GMT
#98239
On May 13 2015 01:25 Unleashing wrote:
That's not what it means when people refer to healing anime/manga, it's more so stuff like K-on, Non non biyori or Yotsuba&!

Edit: Also there's some scientific ground behind having kids as fast as possible, the first eggs a woman 'readies' up for fertilization are generally speaking the healthiest.
There's a strong link between birth defects and maternal age.


Hmm I was reading that autism is more linked to the fathers age than the mothers.

@Toad - Their family still experiments on themselves and other stuff so idk it seems like a risk they'd take. Pop out some babies of from the JesusxIceQueen pairing then see how many are worthwhile. Anyway I think the author is pretty inconsistent with how Maya/Family behave in general and how the society works.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 16:37:55
May 12 2015 16:36 GMT
#98240
On May 13 2015 01:30 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 01:25 Unleashing wrote:
That's not what it means when people refer to healing anime/manga, it's more so stuff like K-on, Non non biyori or Yotsuba&!

Edit: Also there's some scientific ground behind having kids as fast as possible, the first eggs a woman 'readies' up for fertilization are generally speaking the healthiest.
There's a strong link between birth defects and maternal age.


Hmm I was reading that autism is more linked to the fathers age than the mothers.

To give some examples, the risk that a woman has a child with down syndrome in regards to her age:
At age 20, 1 in 1,441
At age 25, 1 in 1,383
At age 30, 1 in 959
At age 35, 1 in 338
At age 40, 1 in 84

Outside of inbreeding over multiple generations a brother and a sister having kids when they're 20 would have far higher chances of a healthier child than a woman who's 35.
Obviously there's still a chance that even without generations of inbreeding that incest results in birth defects, but the effects of it are generally exaggerated imho.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
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