Anime Discussion Thread - Page 4914

So let me get this straight, yamada was blackmailed, backstabbed and in general treated like shit and then people get mad when he doesn't want to help the people that did that shit to him?
I mean hell, she was planning to abuse her power to manipulate him. Like what the fuck, that's like grade-A scumbaggery.

Same with Ushio "hurr i don't regret backstabbing you because it turned out to be a good idea anyway!!"
No you're still a backstabbing piece of shit.

You talking about why Urara is telling Yamada to go find the other witches? Basically she views him as his savior, for all intents and purposes. She had no life outside of being a bookworm before Yamada showed up and he helped make her life better. While she probably does believe she is better off after him coming into her life, Urara also has the ulterior motive of if they do this witch expedition, it's a cover to spend more time with him. + Show Spoiler [witch 1 and 2] +

Ushio on the other hand, he's a douche and continues to be one in future arcs.

edit: oh you mean why Urara made Yamada help fix Nene. Uh, she has a strong moral compass? idek.

No i'm talking about her getting mad enough to slap him for not wanting to remove the charm effect from Nene. I mean sure, he'd be just as petty as her for doing it but it would be fully understandeable if he didn't want to help them out imho. I understand that urara thinks better of him and that's why she ended up slapping him but he should be in his good right to not want to listen to Ushio and Nene's requests if he wanted after they treated him like actual human garbage.

You don't get to drag people through the mud and treat them like shit and then expect them to happily help you when you need it.

Trying to recall the episode more, wasn't he gloating at Ushio though? Granted if this was rl, I (maybe you too?) would def rub it in that asshat's face before coming around to do what's right. I guess the gloating part was too unbecoming of Yamada, thus the slap. She does really view him in high regard, fwiw. Urara doesn't even see the delinquent facade everyone else see, just all heart of gold.

Yeah he was definitely gloating, which i could understand. His life was made fairly miserable for not really doing anything wrong. Then Ushio goes all "Hurf in the end it all worked out" as though the ends justify the means, he and Nene both treated Yamada absolutely awfully.
I should probably add the scumbag comment in my first post was directed at Nene and Ushio, not Urara. Re-reading my own post that might not have been clear.

Ushio is more or less a part of the antagonist faction when it comes to this series. sasuga~
As for Nene, your (the reader) very first impression of her is that she's very manipulative but I don't recall holding it against her tbh. She obv has many better moments in upcoming chapters that eventually won me over so it was easy to overlook the initial impression of her, I suppose.

Ushio is def a douche but leaving Nene as is would have been a magnitude higher on the dick scale then her little blackmail to make Shirashi not take an exam (that actually has 0 effect on Shirashi's future and is a minor jab at Miyamura's chances to become pres). Ushio of course was a huge prick for what he did to Yamada but Nene wasn't part of that which is why Shirashi straight up told him that he was fucking over Nene in a really bad way just to spite Ushio and that wasn't good. Though in the manga things become a lot more murky with that but that is far beyond what the anime will cover.

rip budget, they really did run out after episode 3

But yay, finally purple hair ozawa ari is here.

i wonder what is next

'Little blackmail' it was more than implied that she'd keep using the image for even more blackmailing if not for the events that unfolded. Ontop of this i don't know if the manga is any different but the anime was definitely implying that it was because of her charm that Ushio decided to backstab Yamada and blame him for all of it and Nene clearly happily went with that and also accused yamada of starting the fight.
She clearly had no problems with making yamada miserable. She also had no problems with having Yamada fall under her charm so she could manipulate him and use him for her own gains, even if that did backfire on her.

She's gonna needs some kind of miraculous character development/redemption that turns her into a literal angel in terms of behavior for me to like her character ever after that.

Might just be me but blackmailing and backstabbing ontop of seemingly carelessly turning someone elses life miserable is pretty high up on the douchebag scale. I'm not even sure why but watching episode 5 made me hate her and ushio's characters a lot.

If Nene was actually against being awful towards Yamada then the anime definitely did an awful job of portraying that.

Nene didn't charm Ushio to fuck Yamada over in that fight, it was something he did on his own. Manga spoilers + Show Spoiler + Besides Ushio is legit in love with Nene and doesn't need to be charmed to do anything for her. Yes making her be in love with him for the rest of her life IS much worse then school yard politics which is pretty petty shit. Nene really didn't do anything to make his life miserable except for him running around trying to fix things for a day, but in the end he is pretty much the bitch char for everyone so not exactly a big change keke. You won't see it in the anime but the story and characters will develop way past the point where the anime will end and for many Nene is #1 (see Neo lol). I would place her at slightly edging out Shirashi for the #2 spot atm.

"Nene really didn't do anything to make his life miserable"
Then why did she willingly lie about what happened regarding that fight? She clearly testified against yamada even though she knew she was lying lie and that he'd get wrongly accused of it.
Anime stated that both a boy and a girl from their school said that they saw yamada start the fight. If she was a good and decent person she wouldn't have lied to accuse someone else of something they didn't do.

And i really don't feel you can just ignore the blackmailing because she clearly WAS planning to keep using the image to blackmail him, it wasn't going to be just a one-time thing.
Idk man, the anime either did a shitty job at portraying it or she's a fairly shitty person so far in the anime

I can't explain that without spoiling the manga since the anime won't cover it. Short answer: She didn't. She wasn't meant to be a nice character at first but she wasn't meant to be a character who is spoiled as a bad person for the entire series. Hence why her deeds aren't meant to seem to be bad enough that she is irredeemable in the eyes of the reader.