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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 14:23:47
May 10 2015 14:23 GMT
#98061
I missed the talk about best Onodera by a page. So sad.

And yes, I mean Haru

EDIT: eh, since this is page top, that means I missed it by 2 pages.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 10 2015 14:45 GMT
#98062
It's ok, Onodera and best Onodera were never going to win in the first place. It's up to Chitoge now to take it home (with some light comedy from Marika) lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
May 10 2015 14:55 GMT
#98063
best girl is demon principle....wait wrong series.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
May 10 2015 14:57 GMT
#98064
Oh, I actually think Chitoge will win even though she's not best girl.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
May 10 2015 15:38 GMT
#98065
On May 10 2015 15:08 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 10 2015 14:46 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On May 10 2015 13:46 goody153 wrote:go NTR
lol

you're surprised?

no =p

i finished GTO. it was pretty good. I kind of want to watch the anime because GTO was, at times, very hard to read because there was so much text inside super small text bubbles....on top of me reading it on my phone. T_T;;

list of long manga to tackle next are:

nausicaa
pluto
20th century boys

among others

eca handed me a bunch of diabetes manga, which I will start taking cracks at soon too

FYI the GTO anime doesn't cover everything. It does do a pretty good job of depicting the iconic moments though (eg. sledgehammer)

Also, if you're done GTO, there's still Shonan 14 days~
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 10 2015 15:39 GMT
#98066
On May 10 2015 20:32 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 19:39 ZenithM wrote:
On May 10 2015 13:28 motbob wrote:
On May 10 2015 09:40 ZenithM wrote:
I like how I always watch Oregairu 3 times: the raw, the fast bad fansub, the good slow sub. Anybody doing that too?

Bad fansub? The CR script is so bad compared to Commie's.

Not only does Commie's version flow a lot better, but there are blatant mistranslations in Crunchyroll's release. In 06, when Iroha and 8man are having their conversation outside the club office, Iroha says something about Hayama to the effect of "I don't want to burden him." Crunchyroll completely mistranslated the thing Iroha said after that and ruined a great piece of dialogue.

"Completely mistranslated"?
Commie's: "It's really hard work, so I didn't want to bother him with it."
CR's: "This is a tough job, so I didn't want to bother him with it."

So blatantly ruined, obviously evil CR

Edit: Wait, I didn't add much of "blatant" and "obviously" to add weight to my argument. That's fixed.
Edit2: No but seriously, I didn't like Commie's "Puhleez" and antics like that. I can perfectly hear how Iroha talks, no need to use made-up english words.

Just watch a little bit further... her stated reasons for not wanting to bother him (aka the things that make 8man want to take back his praise) are completely different.

EDIT: To be more explicit, in the Commie script, Iroha talks about how, when she asks for help on menial tasks, it's cute, but if she were to ask Hayama for help on something this hard, it'd be burdensome and annoying. Crunchyroll has Iroha saying that Hayama can't handle simple tasks (?), and that it's his mistakes that she likes about him (??), which is a complete mistranslation.


Must ... resist... or Slaughter will get angry again when I get angry about them

But to keep it on on the positive side of things Yeah, I brought that talk about commie vs CR up when episode 4 aired as well. Long story short, commie likes to have fun with their subs when they can get away with it because it's a funny scene anyways and as long as you don't have an issue with that they're perfectly fine as they tend to be a thousand times better than anything else when it comes to actually important details/scenes in wording for people who don't understand the raw.

You can feel about the joking around however you want but it at least shows that they understand the scene in the first place or they wouldn't be able to make those jokes.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 10 2015 15:45 GMT
#98067
On May 11 2015 00:38 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 15:08 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On May 10 2015 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 10 2015 14:46 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On May 10 2015 13:46 goody153 wrote:go NTR
lol

you're surprised?

no =p

i finished GTO. it was pretty good. I kind of want to watch the anime because GTO was, at times, very hard to read because there was so much text inside super small text bubbles....on top of me reading it on my phone. T_T;;

list of long manga to tackle next are:

nausicaa
pluto
20th century boys

among others

eca handed me a bunch of diabetes manga, which I will start taking cracks at soon too

FYI the GTO anime doesn't cover everything. It does do a pretty good job of depicting the iconic moments though (eg. sledgehammer)

Also, if you're done GTO, there's still Shonan 14 days~

Cool, I'll check it out!
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 15:49:09
May 10 2015 15:45 GMT
#98068
Caught up with not K-ON. Really liking it so far. MC is cute and Black hair girl is adorable. The teacher is prob related to her somehow, I'm guessing older brother she adores. This and Mikagura seem like AOTS. Etotama and Arslan prob also in the running.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 10 2015 15:48 GMT
#98069
On May 11 2015 00:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 20:32 motbob wrote:
On May 10 2015 19:39 ZenithM wrote:
On May 10 2015 13:28 motbob wrote:
On May 10 2015 09:40 ZenithM wrote:
I like how I always watch Oregairu 3 times: the raw, the fast bad fansub, the good slow sub. Anybody doing that too?

Bad fansub? The CR script is so bad compared to Commie's.

Not only does Commie's version flow a lot better, but there are blatant mistranslations in Crunchyroll's release. In 06, when Iroha and 8man are having their conversation outside the club office, Iroha says something about Hayama to the effect of "I don't want to burden him." Crunchyroll completely mistranslated the thing Iroha said after that and ruined a great piece of dialogue.

"Completely mistranslated"?
Commie's: "It's really hard work, so I didn't want to bother him with it."
CR's: "This is a tough job, so I didn't want to bother him with it."

So blatantly ruined, obviously evil CR

Edit: Wait, I didn't add much of "blatant" and "obviously" to add weight to my argument. That's fixed.
Edit2: No but seriously, I didn't like Commie's "Puhleez" and antics like that. I can perfectly hear how Iroha talks, no need to use made-up english words.

Just watch a little bit further... her stated reasons for not wanting to bother him (aka the things that make 8man want to take back his praise) are completely different.

EDIT: To be more explicit, in the Commie script, Iroha talks about how, when she asks for help on menial tasks, it's cute, but if she were to ask Hayama for help on something this hard, it'd be burdensome and annoying. Crunchyroll has Iroha saying that Hayama can't handle simple tasks (?), and that it's his mistakes that she likes about him (??), which is a complete mistranslation.


Must ... resist... or Slaughter will get angry again when I get angry about them

But to keep it on on the positive side of things Yeah, I brought that talk about commie vs CR up when episode 4 aired as well. Long story short, commie likes to have fun with their subs when they can get away with it because it's a funny scene anyways and as long as you don't have an issue with that they're perfectly fine as they tend to be a thousand times better than anything else when it comes to actually important details/scenes in wording for people who don't understand the raw.

You can feel about the joking around however you want but it at least shows that they understand the scene in the first place or they wouldn't be able to make those jokes.


? why would I care about people getting frustrated with bad translations >_>
Never Knows Best.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 15:51:20
May 10 2015 15:49 GMT
#98070
On May 11 2015 00:39 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 20:32 motbob wrote:
On May 10 2015 19:39 ZenithM wrote:
On May 10 2015 13:28 motbob wrote:
On May 10 2015 09:40 ZenithM wrote:
I like how I always watch Oregairu 3 times: the raw, the fast bad fansub, the good slow sub. Anybody doing that too?

Bad fansub? The CR script is so bad compared to Commie's.

Not only does Commie's version flow a lot better, but there are blatant mistranslations in Crunchyroll's release. In 06, when Iroha and 8man are having their conversation outside the club office, Iroha says something about Hayama to the effect of "I don't want to burden him." Crunchyroll completely mistranslated the thing Iroha said after that and ruined a great piece of dialogue.

"Completely mistranslated"?
Commie's: "It's really hard work, so I didn't want to bother him with it."
CR's: "This is a tough job, so I didn't want to bother him with it."

So blatantly ruined, obviously evil CR

Edit: Wait, I didn't add much of "blatant" and "obviously" to add weight to my argument. That's fixed.
Edit2: No but seriously, I didn't like Commie's "Puhleez" and antics like that. I can perfectly hear how Iroha talks, no need to use made-up english words.

Just watch a little bit further... her stated reasons for not wanting to bother him (aka the things that make 8man want to take back his praise) are completely different.

EDIT: To be more explicit, in the Commie script, Iroha talks about how, when she asks for help on menial tasks, it's cute, but if she were to ask Hayama for help on something this hard, it'd be burdensome and annoying. Crunchyroll has Iroha saying that Hayama can't handle simple tasks (?), and that it's his mistakes that she likes about him (??), which is a complete mistranslation.


Must ... resist... or Slaughter will get angry again when I get angry about them

But to keep it on on the positive side of things Yeah, I brought that talk about commie vs CR up when episode 4 aired as well. Long story short, commie likes to have fun with their subs when they can get away with it because it's a funny scene anyways and as long as you don't have an issue with that they're perfectly fine as they tend to be a thousand times better than anything else when it comes to actually important details/scenes in wording for people who don't understand the raw.

You can feel about the joking around however you want but it at least shows that they understand the scene in the first place or they wouldn't be able to make those jokes.

I like my subs without memes, then again i try to avoid both CR and Commie as much as i can unless i heard that Commie did a good job on a specific sub and didn't add memes to it (JoJo season 1 was really good for example, commie were definitely the best option)

Edit: somewhat relevant i guess, and funny:
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From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 10 2015 15:58 GMT
#98071
Yea Toad is overselling CR so dam hard lol. They aren't "thousand times better than anything else". If I didn't know better I'd assume he was a marketing rep. CR are also so large that their sub quality varies greatly. I tend to just get CR for broadcast then find a good BD version later or just wait for BD.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 10 2015 16:01 GMT
#98072
On May 11 2015 00:58 Numy wrote:
Yea Toad is overselling CR so dam hard lol. They aren't "thousand times better than anything else". If I didn't know better I'd assume he was a marketing rep. CR are also so large that their sub quality varies greatly. I tend to just get CR for broadcast then find a good BD version later or just wait for BD.

they're the only ones that do a lot of shows. Can't be bothered to check out 10 different sub groups for 10 different shows. I'm sure the other subbers are on equal terms with them when it comes to quality, it's just CR that's really low.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 16:10:06
May 10 2015 16:07 GMT
#98073
There are a few shows where commie just takes CR or funi subs and edit them slightly and then release them, commie's quality varies too much for me to consider them a safe pick for a show unless someone i know recommends them strongly for a specific show.
Sometimes you have people from the group who work hard and release super high quality subs, other times you have people that don't really care much and just release memeified CR subs.

Sometimes you also get shit like eotena onslaught where commie is doing it 100% to fuck with people.

They're just too varied a bunch to be a safe pick for when new shows start airing imoimo.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-10 16:27:38
May 10 2015 16:14 GMT
#98074
On May 11 2015 01:07 Unleashing wrote:
There are a few shows where commie just takes CR or funi subs and edit them slightly and then release them, commie's quality varies too much for me to consider them a safe pick for a show unless someone i know recommends them strongly for a specific show.
Sometimes you have people from the group who work hard and release super high quality subs, other times you have people that don't really care much and just release memeified CR subs.

Sometimes you also get shit like eotena onslaught where commie is doing it 100% to fuck with people.

They're just too varied a bunch to be a safe pick for when new shows start airing imoimo.

yeah I don't really go with Commie either unless I get really annoyed over something from CR. It's just that when I see that CR screws up they're the first ones I try out.
Don't get me wrong, I have 9 shows I'm getting from HS becaus I just don't care enough about those shows to get proper translations for them. And then there's Oregairu to make sure I don't get cancer from CR translations because I actually care about that one.

and to the overselling part from Numy: I've told people they're really good when Monogatari s2 aired... and now that Oregairu airs. Both shows they're doing good imo. That's 2 shows in... 6 seasons?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 10 2015 16:27 GMT
#98075
I found da best siscon manga for eca-senpai

http://myanimelist.net/manga/56513/Fudatsuki_no_Kyoko-chan
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 10 2015 16:33 GMT
#98076
On May 10 2015 23:57 rebdomine wrote:
Oh, I actually think Chitoge will win even though she's not best girl.

Best girl never (...rarely) wins.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
May 10 2015 16:43 GMT
#98077
On May 11 2015 01:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I found da best siscon manga for eca-senpai

http://myanimelist.net/manga/56513/Fudatsuki_no_Kyoko-chan


I read that too lol.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
May 10 2015 16:51 GMT
#98078
In silver spoon, the suffering truly never ends.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 10 2015 17:18 GMT
#98079
Question about Etotama to anyone watching. What's up with the sesame oil? Uri-tan's adorable love for it is funny but I don't get if I'm missing some cultural reason for the gag
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
May 10 2015 17:20 GMT
#98080
nice Yamada and Arslan are out !

On May 11 2015 01:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 01:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I found da best siscon manga for eca-senpai

http://myanimelist.net/manga/56513/Fudatsuki_no_Kyoko-chan


I read that too lol.

i'm gonna read that

On May 10 2015 23:57 rebdomine wrote:
Oh, I actually think Chitoge will win even though she's not best girl.


everything has been been geared for her to win so yes she will

On May 10 2015 23:23 rebdomine wrote:
I missed the talk about best Onodera by a page. So sad.

And yes, I mean Haru

EDIT: eh, since this is page top, that means I missed it by 2 pages.


Good thing you which Onodera is the best onodera

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