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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44279 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 20:58:39
March 29 2015 20:55 GMT
#94401
On March 30 2015 05:21 Nagisama wrote:
Plans to watch for spring.

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/amasigan&status=6&order=0

Why type it out when I can just link it. -____-

forgot mal existed lol

On March 30 2015 05:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 04:50 Slaughter wrote:
Dunno why people are obsessed with the relationships progressing in Nisekoi. If he chooses at all it will be within the final 10 chapters of the manga. Standard harem story practices so I dunno why people seem to give Nisekoi more shit for it then every other one when its one of the best harem romcoms out there.

Although I say I try not to, it's hard to go into a long-standing series (in manga terms, anything with like 75+ chapters) and come out with zero expectations as you continue to follow weekly releases. When you follow something for that long, I think it's rather natural to develop certain expectations from the characters. Not all of them (expectations) are warranted but still.

In regards to Nisekoi in particular, it's hard for me to pinpoint what it is about the series that 'irks' me but I guess what it really comes down to is the sensibility (or lack thereof) of certain characters. + Show Spoiler [Onodera] +
It's the very reason why a lot of people take Haru over Kosaki, they're literally drawn the same with slight difference in hair style. Haru is just more "normal" while we have Kosaki running around for triple digit chapters as fearful as she was in chapter 1.
In that very same vein, it makes a lot of sense to me why Ruri has so many fans despite having a pretty mundane design.

Lastly, I think Nisekoi falls to its own popularity. A lot of jp series have bumbling-type charas but somehow Nisekoi is the king at drawing aggro for its lack of "progress". But like I previously stated, it's not so much that there's no progress with Raku's love life but rather all the idiocy that surrounds Raku to prolong his situation of not choosing a girl.


Yeah at least + Show Spoiler [Haru] +
actually somewhat made a move towards Raku or not scared of doing so. She doesn't even like go scardy-cat when she went on a date with Raku
while + Show Spoiler [Kosaki] +
She did drop hints on Raku but whenever there was a chance to clarify that she has feelings for Raku she backs down.



On March 30 2015 04:50 Slaughter wrote:
Dunno why people are obsessed with the relationships progressing in Nisekoi. If he chooses at all it will be within the final 10 chapters of the manga. Standard harem story practices so I dunno why people seem to give Nisekoi more shit for it then every other one when its one of the best harem romcoms out there.

Yep .. probably the best i think

On March 30 2015 05:43 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 05:09 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 30 2015 04:50 Slaughter wrote:
Dunno why people are obsessed with the relationships progressing in Nisekoi. If he chooses at all it will be within the final 10 chapters of the manga. Standard harem story practices so I dunno why people seem to give Nisekoi more shit for it then every other one when its one of the best harem romcoms out there.

Although I say I try not to, it's hard to go into a long-standing series (in manga terms, anything with like 75+ chapters) and come out with zero expectations as you continue to follow weekly releases. When you follow something for that long, I think it's rather natural to develop certain expectations from the characters. Not all of them (expectations) are warranted but still.

In regards to Nisekoi in particular, it's hard for me to pinpoint what it is about the series that 'irks' me but I guess what it really comes down to is the sensibility (or lack thereof) of certain characters. + Show Spoiler [Onodera] +
It's the very reason why a lot of people take Haru over Kosaki, they're literally drawn the same with slight difference in hair style. Haru is just more "normal" while we have Kosaki running around for triple digit chapters as fearful as she was in chapter 1.
In that very same vein, it makes a lot of sense to me why Ruri has so many fans despite having a pretty mundane design.

Lastly, I think Nisekoi falls to its own popularity. A lot of jp series have bumbling-type charas but somehow Nisekoi is the king at drawing aggro for its lack of "progress". But like I previously stated, it's not so much that there's no progress with Raku's love life but rather all the idiocy that surrounds Raku to prolong his situation of not choosing a girl.


I agree that a weak point is the rather comical extreme that the author goes to keep Raku in the dark. He is a true dumb harem MC. He also is like the male version of Onodera the way he freaks out at every little thing~ Onodera is the frightened rabbit despite having 2 strong characters propping her up and helping her.+ Show Spoiler +
Despite Haru being regulated as side character she has shown that she actually has a lot in common with Raku and that they get along pretty well. Haru also is 100x more decisive and not a coward. She would have already confessed and been dating Raku by now if she wasn't loyal to her sister. Yui-nee already made her feelings known but knows how to read the mood of Raku and company (as well as having knowledge of what went down when they were kids). So she is just bidding her time waiting for the kids to get their shit together before she makes her move. Which is why Yui-nee is the best girl.

Yeah pretty much this except for Yui is the best girl.
this is a quote
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 21:01:48
March 29 2015 21:01 GMT
#94402
Kosaki has to back away because she's a doormat and Japs fucking love doormat girls. Hell even West loves doormats as she ranks top 2/3 in popularity pools on stuff like reddit/MAL. It's perplexing.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 21:04:31
March 29 2015 21:02 GMT
#94403
Nisekoi deserves all the aggro it gets. Before I bitch about it, I do like it and read it and will likely watch S2.

Well, the reason I say Hayate > Nisekoi is because I think the comedy aspect is written far better even though it focuses less on art/cutesiness of girls. Whereas Nisekoi constantly makes wild situation -> attempts touching or a tense moment -> situation is completely undone, often times by something stupid. Which is kind of the point, to be stupid and enjoyable.

Read Nisekoi, really liked it (first 40-50 chaps?), disliked it, liked it and hated myself. Then thought it was "meh" but kept reading anyway. It's a little too repetitive because you know every single "development" is going to be completely undone very soon. It's just the author milking his series for all its worth. Which is fine and that's what it has become. But if it's going to do that it had better have better comedic writing rather than watching Raku get flustered. Raku is beyond dense, which is needed for a manga like this but still him stammering and getting flustered is obnoxious a lot of the time when he should just act normally. Especially given all his experience now. However for it to develop would change what it has become. So it will just continue like this until sales drop to X point and then development will finally happen.

Despite that, most or all of the characters are likeable, even Raku. And, I think it may have had some comedic moments ages ago but those got a little further apart. Basically at this point I haven't looked forward to any chapters in a long time.

Read the first chapters of the LN for Spice and Wolf last night. I'd already watched the anime but still enjoyed it.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 29 2015 21:05 GMT
#94404
oh man comedy of the season crossange is also finished.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 29 2015 21:06 GMT
#94405
Ah I read the first 5 LN for S&W and enjoyed it. Think you'll like the rest since we seem to read similar books. Book 4 is quite fun which didn't get adapted for some reason. Should be getting the next 8 in a week or two.

Nisekoi would really benefit from just ending then the author going back to write maybe side stories of certain characters either before the main story or during. That way he wouldn't have to reharsh story elements just to pad out the sales while still riding off the Nisekoi brand name.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 21:22:47
March 29 2015 21:10 GMT
#94406
Yea dunno why they skipped vol 4, it was just as drama/intense as 5 ~ They probably just wanted to show Eve. I have read the 1st 10 LNs of S&W and it maintains its level pretty well. A little lul in the 7-9 range (forget which one was weak) but its still good. Just need to finish it off.
Never Knows Best.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 21:16:14
March 29 2015 21:15 GMT
#94407
Yeah I think I'm going to enjoy the rest even if it's more of the same. Holo godtier and Lawrence is not bad at all and may be pretty great. I actually like the writing a lot so far. I was expecting to get bored since I already knew the story but instantly got hooked and read way more than I expected to.

Your Nisekoi idea sounds a lot more enjoyable than what's currently going on tbh.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 21:23:36
March 29 2015 21:22 GMT
#94408
On March 30 2015 06:10 Slaughter wrote:
Yea dunno why they skipped vol 4, it was just as drama/intense as 5 ~ They probably just wanted to show Eve.


I loved the the contrast in dynamic between the two couples and then Holo getting all flustered after the dinner.

As for Nisekoi yea i think that would work out pretty well. It's a largely character driven story with the story only there to drag the characters along but the issue is it's set up with a finite story so when that isn't moving along it doesn't feel good to the reader. Just finishing the story then going back and revisiting the characters is just a better way to go about it. You never want your audience wishing for a story to end, you want them praying for the end to never come and when it does they love the end too. Ending something shouldn't be scary, it's just a natural progression of the story and should be embraced.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 29 2015 21:30 GMT
#94409
Nanatsu ended perfectly after this arc, such a good production from A1.+ Show Spoiler +
but iirc he didnt want princess to come with them in manga??


next arc (ie currently ongoing in manga) is going so good atm so i cant wait for the next course.

Also from the trailer at the end, legend of Arslan anime is coming out next sunday wow!!!! (from the author of FMA/Silver spoon)
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 29 2015 21:44 GMT
#94410
iirc legend of arslan only has the art done by the author of FMA, she didn't write the story
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8668 Posts
March 29 2015 21:49 GMT
#94411
On March 30 2015 06:44 Unleashing wrote:
iirc legend of arslan only has the art done by the author of FMA, she didn't write the story


According to MAL this is correct. The author of the story for Arslan is the one who wrote LotGH.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 29 2015 21:57 GMT
#94412
On March 30 2015 04:50 Slaughter wrote:
Dunno why people are obsessed with the relationships progressing in Nisekoi. If he chooses at all it will be within the final 10 chapters of the manga. Standard harem story practices so I dunno why people seem to give Nisekoi more shit for it then every other one when its one of the best harem romcoms out there.

Is it just me, or have I read this exact post before? I get the feeling that I see this post every time people start talking about Nisekoi.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
March 29 2015 22:02 GMT
#94413
On March 30 2015 06:44 Unleashing wrote:
iirc legend of arslan only has the art done by the author of FMA, she didn't write the story


she actually made changes to the original story.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 29 2015 22:10 GMT
#94414
I see there's a 1995 OVA of Legend of Arslan as well. Didn't realize it was that old. I'm pretty excited for it myself. Looks like medieval fantasy politics which is always fun.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 29 2015 22:30 GMT
#94415
oh didnt know that, makes sense she only draws it
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
March 30 2015 01:16 GMT
#94416
i think im gonna change all my MAL ratings to 10 just because.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51032 Posts
March 30 2015 01:19 GMT
#94417
On March 30 2015 07:30 BurningSera wrote:
oh didnt know that, makes sense she only draws it


plus her art is pretty good.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
March 30 2015 01:21 GMT
#94418
lol soo.... Guy who wrote script for FMA anime also wrote BnP...also A/Z for a couple episodes. Just thought I'd share.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
March 30 2015 01:36 GMT
#94419
On March 30 2015 05:21 Nagisama wrote:
Plans to watch for spring.

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/amasigan&status=6&order=0

Why type it out when I can just link it. -____-

Oh right, I should pick up Daiya s2 I guess. It's gonna pass scans pretty soon.
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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
March 30 2015 01:47 GMT
#94420
On March 30 2015 10:16 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
i think im gonna change all my MAL ratings to 10 just because.


T.T

Plz. Can't you just rate them normally
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