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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 16:23:13
March 30 2015 16:22 GMT
#94441
On March 31 2015 01:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On March 31 2015 01:10 IceHism wrote:
On March 31 2015 01:05 Numy wrote:
On March 31 2015 00:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:28 goody153 wrote:
i am rewatching Yahari s1 .. holy shit MC is more toxic than Kyon

at least Kyon sometimes know how to woo the laadies

I have a feeling that you don't quite understand 8man tbh.


Pls 8man is fucking toxic. He could just pick Yukinon and stop his whorish ways but no he has to lead them all on and let her suffer.


Suffering is moe

Not sure how this is a thing but it seems to be the popular sentiment.

That said, how is Yukinon's suffering 8man's fault? If anything, I'm pretty sure Yukinon's suffering is largely Yukinon's fault. zz
o/


are you saying you can't empathize with someone who is suffering
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 30 2015 17:17 GMT
#94442
On March 31 2015 01:22 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 01:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 31 2015 01:10 IceHism wrote:
On March 31 2015 01:05 Numy wrote:
On March 31 2015 00:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 30 2015 21:28 goody153 wrote:
i am rewatching Yahari s1 .. holy shit MC is more toxic than Kyon

at least Kyon sometimes know how to woo the laadies

I have a feeling that you don't quite understand 8man tbh.


Pls 8man is fucking toxic. He could just pick Yukinon and stop his whorish ways but no he has to lead them all on and let her suffer.


Suffering is moe

Not sure how this is a thing but it seems to be the popular sentiment.

That said, how is Yukinon's suffering 8man's fault? If anything, I'm pretty sure Yukinon's suffering is largely Yukinon's fault. zz
o/


are you saying you can't empathize with someone who is suffering

ofc I can, esp so in VNs but I guess "suffering is moe" is not an apt description of my feels, I suppose, haha.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
March 30 2015 17:25 GMT
#94443
Empathy /= Moe. Saying suffering is moe is the opposite of empathy because it implies that you find the suffering of others to be cute and pleasing.
Never Knows Best.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 30 2015 18:16 GMT
#94444
On March 31 2015 02:25 Slaughter wrote:
Empathy /= Moe. Saying suffering is moe is the opposite of empathy because it implies that you find the suffering of others to be cute and pleasing.

isn't the suffering supposed to be the enjoyable part, generally speaking?
higruashi, saya etc
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
March 30 2015 18:19 GMT
#94445
On March 31 2015 02:25 Slaughter wrote:
Empathy /= Moe. Saying suffering is moe is the opposite of empathy because it implies that you find the suffering of others to be cute and pleasing.

But moe is a feeling of wanting to protect something.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 18:26:42
March 30 2015 18:26 GMT
#94446
Moe is just cute or adorable. Some dude writing a "paper" saying it's feeling of protection doesn't make it so lol. Dam is that what a paper goes for in his circle. A tiny 3 line abstract, no glossary or nomenclature and then just a wall of text without breaks or sub-headings. Too used to engineering/science papers I guess.

edit: Oh this was even undergrad not postgrad work.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 30 2015 18:27 GMT
#94447
On March 31 2015 03:26 Numy wrote:
Moe is just cute or adorable. Some dude writing a "paper" saying it's feeling of protection doesn't make it so lol. Dam is that what a paper goes for in his circle. A tiny 3 line abstract, no glossary or nomenclature and then just a wall of text without breaks or sub-headings. Too used to engineering/science papers I guess.

edit: Oh this was even undergrad not postgrad work.

whatever happened to the notion of moe is when your heart gets a boner?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 18:31:39
March 30 2015 18:31 GMT
#94448
Moe is love Moe is life

Yeah moe is pretty much seeing and appreciating something cute/adorable.
this is a quote
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 18:32:18
March 30 2015 18:31 GMT
#94449
On March 31 2015 03:26 Numy wrote:
Moe is just cute or adorable. Some dude writing a "paper" saying it's feeling of protection doesn't make it so lol. Dam is that what a paper goes for in his circle. A tiny 3 line abstract, no glossary or nomenclature and then just a wall of text without breaks or sub-headings. Too used to engineering/science papers I guess.

edit: Oh this was even undergrad not postgrad work.


This is how it is used in 2ch. I would assume jps know their language better than anyone else.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 18:36:36
March 30 2015 18:35 GMT
#94450
On March 31 2015 03:31 IceHism wrote:
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On March 31 2015 03:26 Numy wrote:
Moe is just cute or adorable. Some dude writing a "paper" saying it's feeling of protection doesn't make it so lol. Dam is that what a paper goes for in his circle. A tiny 3 line abstract, no glossary or nomenclature and then just a wall of text without breaks or sub-headings. Too used to engineering/science papers I guess.

edit: Oh this was even undergrad not postgrad work.


This is how it is used in 2ch. I would assume jps know their language better than anyone else.


That means that what we describe as "moe" anime isn't actually moe anime but instead any anime where you have a feeling of wanting to protect a character would make that character moe. Which is completely different to how moe is used by everyone in the west. In your instance when I'm watching FMA and desperately want Hawkeye to not get hurt that means Hawkeye is a moe character does it not? This is different to when I'm say watching Yuru Yuri where there's no danger, no feeling of protection but instead just character being adorable. That anime then wouldn't be a Moe anime at all?

NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 30 2015 18:38 GMT
#94451
Not a fan of the term 'moe'. Or 'waifu' for matter. ;;
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 30 2015 18:44 GMT
#94452
I though moe was when your heart goes waku waku doki doki
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
March 30 2015 18:47 GMT
#94453
On March 31 2015 03:31 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 03:26 Numy wrote:
Moe is just cute or adorable. Some dude writing a "paper" saying it's feeling of protection doesn't make it so lol. Dam is that what a paper goes for in his circle. A tiny 3 line abstract, no glossary or nomenclature and then just a wall of text without breaks or sub-headings. Too used to engineering/science papers I guess.

edit: Oh this was even undergrad not postgrad work.


This is how it is used in 2ch. I would assume jps know their language better than anyone else.

While I don't doubt this, that's the same as assuming all American's (US/CA/UK/whoever else you want to include) know how to use the English language when they type online, and we know that's not true either.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
March 30 2015 19:00 GMT
#94454
I hate Moeshit. "ready for bashing"
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 19:02:18
March 30 2015 19:00 GMT
#94455
Afaik, the original usage of moe from 2ch is pretty much something along the lines of helplessness/cute at the same time, like a turtle that got itself flipped upside down and is trying to get back on its feet.

Nowadays it's pretty much used as another word for cute/adorable specific to the culture sorrounding anime, even by the japanese. I mean hell, watch how it's used in shirobako, whenever the director talked about moe but he definitely wasn't talking about characters that gave the viewer a feeling of them needing protection or something like that, it was pretty much used as a synonym for cute.

Edit: That reminds me that moe was a banned word when they were working on psycho pass, supposedly.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 30 2015 19:04 GMT
#94456
doki doki+1
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 19:09:40
March 30 2015 19:09 GMT
#94457
On March 31 2015 03:44 Sentenal wrote:
I though moe was when your heart goes waku waku doki doki

yeah. I've heard flowery explanations of it being the feeling a girl has when she has her first love and all that kind of stuff but it's really just whatever you want it to be nowadays.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 30 2015 21:18 GMT
#94458
Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm crowning the MVP of G Reco.

MVP of G Reco goes to...! This bird:
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This heroic bird gave zero shits, and saves the day in one of G Reco's many WTF moments.

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Bird is truly one of the greatest, bravest heroes in anime.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8646 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 21:44:08
March 30 2015 21:34 GMT
#94459
lol sent, n1.

I finished up Yurikuma now so this season is now complete. Here's my overview about the shows that finished this season:

Completed

- Death Parade 8/10
- Rolling Girls 7/10
- Yurikuma Arashi 3/10
- Shigatsu 5/10
- Aldnoah.Zero #2 3/10

Dropped

- AssClass 3/10
- KanColle 2/10
- Shirobako 5/10

On Hold/Plan to watch in one go

- Parasyte
- Akatsuki no Yona
- Nanatsu


After I finished up 2 shows with 3/10 this season (and to be honest, Yurikuma was only saved by its last 3 episodes), I think I'm done with forcing myself to watch bad shows for a while now. Next season I will definitely drop everything that doesn't convince me that it might end up being decent overall.
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
March 30 2015 21:39 GMT
#94460
guys i think i might just have shit taste
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
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