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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 23:47:03
November 11 2010 23:46 GMT
#8981
On November 12 2010 08:43 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 08:27 Ferrose wrote:
On November 12 2010 08:19 LunarC wrote:
On November 12 2010 08:16 Ferrose wrote:
On November 12 2010 08:02 LunarC wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:38 PH wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:17 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:15 EchOne wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:11 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 11 2010 05:48 Shiragaku wrote:
[quote]
Dude...this is something out of a sci-fi novel. And that is not a good thing.


You guys cheer for grown men playing video games, and this comes across as a shock?

Well since we are posters on a forum dedicated to the discussion of a video game franchise whose players consist mainly of men, it's likely that many of us are often grown men playing video games. Other grown men playing video games are far less removed from us than holographic idols or fans of such.


Yes, and I'm pointing out that it is hypocritical for people who pursue a hobby that the mainstream would consider strange to ridicule others for pursuing other non-mainstream activities.

It may be hypocritical, but I still think that concert was fucking weird and disturbing.

I'm more amazed by the technical feat of creating a virtual idol and projecting it onto the stage. That's some cool engineering right there.

As a side note, we Starcraft fans are still firmly grounded in the reality of the players and their performances and interactions. We do not subscribe to the virtual world of Starcraft and consider its characters as real people.

However, a lot of the fans of Miku are people that are constantly trying to replace needs and relationships that are usually filled by humans with virtual things. Japanese media has a postmodern theme of blending machine with humanity. Certain individuals take it a bit further than that and actively try to replace real interactions with simulated ones.

Are on the cutting edge of a social phenomenon, or are they simply sick? I guess only time will tell.


This kind of reminds me of why I keep it a secret that I watch anime, in RL at least. Most people are like "omg you're a grown person and you still watch cartoons"

People will never understand. That goes for any hobby, I suppose.

Anime is related to cartoons, which have the stigma of being "for children" and being "family-friendly" in the West. Not that the content and appearance of a majority of trash shows help that perception, but...


Well, that's just the thing. If people weren't so narrow-minded about animated films and TV shows maybe I'd feel a little safer about watching it.

Edit: Even my own family makes thinks that all animated shows and movies are for kids. Every time a new Pixar film comes out and I want to see it, they make fun of me.

On a slightly more hilarious note, this is how some kids get exposed to Evangelion. Because, y'know, it's a kids' cartoon...

How much western media do you guys still watch? I've found that my tv watching time tapered off a lot when I started watching anime. I no longer keep up with any regularly airing shows, and pretty much just watch the occasional sports broadcast.

You think that's bad, some people end up getting their kids hentai. >.>

Don't watch television and never really did, because we never had very many channels. I watch the occasional anime or manga, and if I think it's good I finish it. If I think it's REALLY good, I archive it so I can watch it again sometime. I do the same with movies.
REEBUH!!!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 11 2010 23:51 GMT
#8982
On November 12 2010 08:43 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 08:27 Ferrose wrote:
On November 12 2010 08:19 LunarC wrote:
On November 12 2010 08:16 Ferrose wrote:
On November 12 2010 08:02 LunarC wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:38 PH wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:17 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:15 EchOne wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:11 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 11 2010 05:48 Shiragaku wrote:
[quote]
Dude...this is something out of a sci-fi novel. And that is not a good thing.


You guys cheer for grown men playing video games, and this comes across as a shock?

Well since we are posters on a forum dedicated to the discussion of a video game franchise whose players consist mainly of men, it's likely that many of us are often grown men playing video games. Other grown men playing video games are far less removed from us than holographic idols or fans of such.


Yes, and I'm pointing out that it is hypocritical for people who pursue a hobby that the mainstream would consider strange to ridicule others for pursuing other non-mainstream activities.

It may be hypocritical, but I still think that concert was fucking weird and disturbing.

I'm more amazed by the technical feat of creating a virtual idol and projecting it onto the stage. That's some cool engineering right there.

As a side note, we Starcraft fans are still firmly grounded in the reality of the players and their performances and interactions. We do not subscribe to the virtual world of Starcraft and consider its characters as real people.

However, a lot of the fans of Miku are people that are constantly trying to replace needs and relationships that are usually filled by humans with virtual things. Japanese media has a postmodern theme of blending machine with humanity. Certain individuals take it a bit further than that and actively try to replace real interactions with simulated ones.

Are on the cutting edge of a social phenomenon, or are they simply sick? I guess only time will tell.


This kind of reminds me of why I keep it a secret that I watch anime, in RL at least. Most people are like "omg you're a grown person and you still watch cartoons"

People will never understand. That goes for any hobby, I suppose.

Anime is related to cartoons, which have the stigma of being "for children" and being "family-friendly" in the West. Not that the content and appearance of a majority of trash shows help that perception, but...


Well, that's just the thing. If people weren't so narrow-minded about animated films and TV shows maybe I'd feel a little safer about watching it.

Edit: Even my own family makes thinks that all animated shows and movies are for kids. Every time a new Pixar film comes out and I want to see it, they make fun of me.

On a slightly more hilarious note, this is how some kids get exposed to Evangelion. Because, y'know, it's a kids' cartoon...

How much western media do you guys still watch? I've found that my tv watching time tapered off a lot when I started watching anime. I no longer keep up with any regularly airing shows, and pretty much just watch the occasional sports broadcast.


All I watch are various sports (American football, basketball, hockey, etc.) and the Daily Show.

Western shows just don't have the same appeal to me that anime does.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
November 12 2010 00:34 GMT
#8983
On November 12 2010 08:02 LunarC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 06:38 PH wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:17 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:15 EchOne wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:11 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 11 2010 05:48 Shiragaku wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:35 fusionsdf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtzNv7pqfA

OMG

Dude...this is something out of a sci-fi novel. And that is not a good thing.


You guys cheer for grown men playing video games, and this comes across as a shock?

Well since we are posters on a forum dedicated to the discussion of a video game franchise whose players consist mainly of men, it's likely that many of us are often grown men playing video games. Other grown men playing video games are far less removed from us than holographic idols or fans of such.


Yes, and I'm pointing out that it is hypocritical for people who pursue a hobby that the mainstream would consider strange to ridicule others for pursuing other non-mainstream activities.

It may be hypocritical, but I still think that concert was fucking weird and disturbing.

I'm more amazed by the technical feat of creating a virtual idol and projecting it onto the stage. That's some cool engineering right there.

As a side note, we Starcraft fans are still firmly grounded in the reality of the players and their performances and interactions. We do not subscribe to the virtual world of Starcraft and consider its characters as real people.

However, a lot of the fans of Miku are people that are constantly trying to replace needs and relationships that are usually filled by humans with virtual things. Japanese media has a postmodern theme of blending machine with humanity. Certain individuals take it a bit further than that and actively try to replace real interactions with simulated ones.

Are on the cutting edge of a social phenomenon, or are they simply sick? I guess only time will tell.


Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really follow the virtual idol scene, but I have always assumed that the people who attends such concerts are very aware that it is a digital character and follow her because she is a digital character, similar to how some people may like the characters of say, Daft Punk or Gorillaz . I highly doubt that any fans really see her as a substitute for human relationships.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 12 2010 00:40 GMT
#8984
On November 12 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 08:02 LunarC wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:38 PH wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:17 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:15 EchOne wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:11 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 11 2010 05:48 Shiragaku wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:35 fusionsdf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtzNv7pqfA

OMG

Dude...this is something out of a sci-fi novel. And that is not a good thing.


You guys cheer for grown men playing video games, and this comes across as a shock?

Well since we are posters on a forum dedicated to the discussion of a video game franchise whose players consist mainly of men, it's likely that many of us are often grown men playing video games. Other grown men playing video games are far less removed from us than holographic idols or fans of such.


Yes, and I'm pointing out that it is hypocritical for people who pursue a hobby that the mainstream would consider strange to ridicule others for pursuing other non-mainstream activities.

It may be hypocritical, but I still think that concert was fucking weird and disturbing.

I'm more amazed by the technical feat of creating a virtual idol and projecting it onto the stage. That's some cool engineering right there.

As a side note, we Starcraft fans are still firmly grounded in the reality of the players and their performances and interactions. We do not subscribe to the virtual world of Starcraft and consider its characters as real people.

However, a lot of the fans of Miku are people that are constantly trying to replace needs and relationships that are usually filled by humans with virtual things. Japanese media has a postmodern theme of blending machine with humanity. Certain individuals take it a bit further than that and actively try to replace real interactions with simulated ones.

Are on the cutting edge of a social phenomenon, or are they simply sick? I guess only time will tell.


Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really follow the virtual idol scene, but I have always assumed that the people who attends such concerts are very aware that it is a digital character and follow her because she is a digital character, similar to how some people may like the characters of say, Daft Punk or Gorillaz . I highly doubt that any fans really see her as a substitute for human relationships.

Macross Plus tells me differently about Virtual Idols. Macross Plus also tells me that Virtual Idols will try to destroy civilization.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
meltzu
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 15:09:48
November 12 2010 00:56 GMT
#8985
This post is to everyone who wants to start watching anime or is looking for new anime to watch.

Where to look for animes?
http://myanimelist.net/ <- This site is more starter friendly and it's really easy to use, tho it isn't as accurate as anidb is.

http://anidb.net <- This site is imo to the ones that really know what they're wanting. Also the site has charater search so if you hear / see some name in a pic or post and you want to know which anime / manga the character is from, this site is really good for that.

http://boards.4chan.org/a/ <- Here you can find all kinds of anime discussions and also find new animes / mangas to read / watch. Tho be cautious since it's still 4chan.

When you're searching for new anime: IGNORE THE RATINGS! - reading reviews if far far better, but the best is to give the anime a try. Watch an episode or two.

Where to download anime?:

http://www.bakabt.com/ <- My personal favourite, you don't have to register if you use google to search, like lets say "Toradora torrent bakabt". Search like that and you'll find the anime you're looking for.

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/ <- A good torrent site too, but I rarely use it.

http://tokyotosho.info/ <- Here's another one

Or just google like at the bakabt description, if you don't find it from bakabt, there might be like torrentz link to it.


I'd recommend watching:

- Toradora, a really good romance/comedy anime with tsundere in it, probably one of the best animes I've ever watched.

- GTO, comedy/slice of life/drama anime about a young former gang leader wanting to become the best teacher in the world. Really entertaning. I think everyone should watch it even if the genres didn't quite fit.

- Full Metal Panic!, mecha/action/comedy/(a bit of romance). Really good.

- Clannad, drama/romance, a start it's quite booring, but it gets really good. It has some really sad moments. Recommended to people who're into romance animes.

The list goes on, but there was some "must see" animes.

Hope this post helped you.

//meltzu
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 01:40:26
November 12 2010 01:38 GMT
#8986
On November 12 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 08:02 LunarC wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:38 PH wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:17 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:15 EchOne wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:11 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 11 2010 05:48 Shiragaku wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:35 fusionsdf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtzNv7pqfA

OMG

Dude...this is something out of a sci-fi novel. And that is not a good thing.


You guys cheer for grown men playing video games, and this comes across as a shock?

Well since we are posters on a forum dedicated to the discussion of a video game franchise whose players consist mainly of men, it's likely that many of us are often grown men playing video games. Other grown men playing video games are far less removed from us than holographic idols or fans of such.


Yes, and I'm pointing out that it is hypocritical for people who pursue a hobby that the mainstream would consider strange to ridicule others for pursuing other non-mainstream activities.

It may be hypocritical, but I still think that concert was fucking weird and disturbing.

I'm more amazed by the technical feat of creating a virtual idol and projecting it onto the stage. That's some cool engineering right there.

As a side note, we Starcraft fans are still firmly grounded in the reality of the players and their performances and interactions. We do not subscribe to the virtual world of Starcraft and consider its characters as real people.

However, a lot of the fans of Miku are people that are constantly trying to replace needs and relationships that are usually filled by humans with virtual things. Japanese media has a postmodern theme of blending machine with humanity. Certain individuals take it a bit further than that and actively try to replace real interactions with simulated ones.

Are on the cutting edge of a social phenomenon, or are they simply sick? I guess only time will tell.


Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really follow the virtual idol scene, but I have always assumed that the people who attends such concerts are very aware that it is a digital character and follow her because she is a digital character, similar to how some people may like the characters of say, Daft Punk or Gorillaz . I highly doubt that any fans really see her as a substitute for human relationships.

Unfortunately, you probably aren't familiar with Japan's otaku subculture.

I personally abhor anime that try to capitalize on this subculture. Problem is, it's the easiest way to turn a profit. It's a rather vicious cycle.
REEBUH!!!
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 12 2010 01:53 GMT
#8987
On November 12 2010 10:38 LunarC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 09:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 12 2010 08:02 LunarC wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:38 PH wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:17 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:15 EchOne wrote:
On November 12 2010 06:11 shadesofkarma wrote:
On November 11 2010 05:48 Shiragaku wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:35 fusionsdf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtzNv7pqfA

OMG

Dude...this is something out of a sci-fi novel. And that is not a good thing.


You guys cheer for grown men playing video games, and this comes across as a shock?

Well since we are posters on a forum dedicated to the discussion of a video game franchise whose players consist mainly of men, it's likely that many of us are often grown men playing video games. Other grown men playing video games are far less removed from us than holographic idols or fans of such.


Yes, and I'm pointing out that it is hypocritical for people who pursue a hobby that the mainstream would consider strange to ridicule others for pursuing other non-mainstream activities.

It may be hypocritical, but I still think that concert was fucking weird and disturbing.

I'm more amazed by the technical feat of creating a virtual idol and projecting it onto the stage. That's some cool engineering right there.

As a side note, we Starcraft fans are still firmly grounded in the reality of the players and their performances and interactions. We do not subscribe to the virtual world of Starcraft and consider its characters as real people.

However, a lot of the fans of Miku are people that are constantly trying to replace needs and relationships that are usually filled by humans with virtual things. Japanese media has a postmodern theme of blending machine with humanity. Certain individuals take it a bit further than that and actively try to replace real interactions with simulated ones.

Are on the cutting edge of a social phenomenon, or are they simply sick? I guess only time will tell.


Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't really follow the virtual idol scene, but I have always assumed that the people who attends such concerts are very aware that it is a digital character and follow her because she is a digital character, similar to how some people may like the characters of say, Daft Punk or Gorillaz . I highly doubt that any fans really see her as a substitute for human relationships.

Unfortunately, you probably aren't familiar with Japan's otaku subculture.

I personally abhor anime that try to capitalize on this subculture. Problem is, it's the easiest way to turn a profit. It's a rather vicious cycle.


What genre(s) of anime do you like?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 12 2010 08:42 GMT
#8988
The TWGOK manga is slowly eliminating all of my favorite characters.

On November 12 2010 05:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Elsee is really cute. -_-x

Ayumi > Elsee
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
November 12 2010 09:08 GMT
#8989
Shiki 15

+ Show Spoiler +

Alright, time to speculate again! Everything I said before is wrong because I thought it was 14 episodes...
But this time, Yuuki is back. Ozaki is lost. The monk is useless.

They made us think that Yuuki was cremated, but this was obviously not the case. It's hard to tell what happened with the body, because the Shikis did not acknowledge that they received it or something. So either they lied to Megumi and she gonna go berserk someday or the body was sent somewhere else because Yuuki's father had some doubt. I'm gonna go with the second option. Then Yuuki must have woke up alone, and wasn't brainwashed by the Shikis, and is probably drinking blood with the disgust of doing it. By talking to Ozaki, he shows that he's working against the Shikis, and there's probably gonna be a tense relationship between the two in the future.

I doubt Ozaki is gonna be bitten, but I really don't see how he's gonna get away with it. I would have gone crazy already if I were him. But I think he also did. Fleeing the village sounds like the best option, but it's probably not gonna happen.

I thought the letter of resignation of the nurse would have led to some false accusation of her being a shiki, or bitten, but it didn't happen. Maybe it'll happen later?
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
November 12 2010 09:55 GMT
#8990
On November 12 2010 08:43 Spazer wrote:
How much western media do you guys still watch? I've found that my tv watching time tapered off a lot when I started watching anime. I no longer keep up with any regularly airing shows, and pretty much just watch the occasional sports broadcast.


Unless it is something exceptional, like a very good movie or more likely an interesting documentation, I don't watch TV or movies anymore. I never cared for sport events, getting news from the mainstream media is a terrible idea, and everything else feels like it has horrible writing and stupid and boring (human) characters. Especially compared to good anime.

It is also easier for me to get emotionally affected by anime compared to TV shows or movies, but I can't really explain why. I've yet to find any TV show that might move me to tears, while I nearly cried during the K-On!! finale with the song written for Azunyan. (*turns in his Man-card at the counter*)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 12 2010 10:19 GMT
#8991
@#%&*%@#%

Stupid crap, the mangaka for FMPSigma decided to do a short story volume, then said the next volume's gonna be short stories again.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9563 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 10:40:31
November 12 2010 10:37 GMT
#8992
I still watch news + Comedy Central everyday along side my favourite shows like House or Stargate SG-1 or Atlantis (or other sci-fi) shows for that matter. I still watch movies if they're any good. More than anything anime put a bigger hold on my gaming rather than tv watching.

TWGOK is great =D. The anime is a bit slow, but the manga is progressing nicely. Ayumi > all girls (except Haqua and Kusonoki.)
It's funny really. I keep a tab on the new anime seasons, but I rarely watch any completely. If I see an anime that interests me, I go look for the manga. If I find the manga I read it and drop the anime, and if I don't find it (like psychic detective yokumo) I keep on watching =|
I just prefer reading that much.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 15:42:03
November 12 2010 15:41 GMT
#8993
On November 12 2010 17:42 Spazer wrote:
The TWGOK manga is slowly eliminating all of my favorite characters.

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 05:25 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Elsee is really cute. -_-x

Ayumi > Elsee

Haqua > others

I need to go find more of the raws -.-

On November 12 2010 19:19 Southlight wrote:
@#%&*%@#%

Stupid crap, the mangaka for FMPSigma decided to do a short story volume, then said the next volume's gonna be short stories again.

Which SS?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 12 2010 15:46 GMT
#8994
He did the pre-Urz mission (the hostage rescue), then Kurtz' teacher unrequited love story, and then the Tessa vs Mao duel.

He says he's gonna do Very Merry Christmas next volume.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 12 2010 15:50 GMT
#8995
wtf? Why Very Merry Christmas after all that stuff in Sigma. Just to pound in the whole thing with + Show Spoiler [FMP novels] +
Tessa's heartbreak
?

At least the short stories chosen are all pretty good ones imo.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 12 2010 15:55 GMT
#8996
lol, check out the cover for 14 :D
http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/comic/bk_detail.php?pcd=201002000004

I was like
Leonard!?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 12 2010 15:56 GMT
#8997
Didn't Sigma get up to the point with Sousuke/Tessa/Kurtz/etc going to that old experimental site in Russia? Funny that they should be doing all these stuff related to them, particularly one of them, after that
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 12 2010 16:03 GMT
#8998
Sigma got to the point where
+ Show Spoiler +
Chidori 覚醒 and Kurtz gets killed/shoots his instructor


Then it shows Mao staring off into space while sitting on her bed and transitions into the hostage rescue SS, like she was thinking back to those times. The next chapter was the Kurtz teacher one, this time being Sagara's "thinking back to the old times" thing - he ponders what'd have happened if Kurtz chose the guitar over the rifle.

Tessa vs Mao was out of the blue and wasn't linked back to the story.

No idea what they'll do for Very Merry Christmas.

But yeah, the first two "serious" SS were tied into story because + Show Spoiler +
of the death that you imply may not have been
.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 16:19:35
November 12 2010 16:11 GMT
#8999
覚醒wwwww

Didn't I bitch about the second to last vol and how heavyhanded the author was in suggesting that?

And yeah from what you said, Tessa vs Mao is quite random, so is A Very Merry Christmas. I guess just basically service. It could count as Sousuke's flashback about him and Chidori.

Also, there has to be people who can appreciate this, even if it is not in English.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 12 2010 16:25 GMT
#9000
Poor Hisui :x

Mecha-Hisui incoming~
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