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IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
December 13 2014 02:57 GMT
#89121
On December 13 2014 11:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do they do that, air first 13 episodes one season, skip the next and then do the rest the season after that.


It's cheaper to do it that way.

Broadcast slots cost a lot, even the late night ones that no one really cares about.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44235 Posts
December 13 2014 02:58 GMT
#89122
On December 13 2014 11:37 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do they do that, air first 13 episodes one season, skip the next and then do the rest the season after that.

it's probably cause first 12-13 ep(season 1) is some sort of test to determine if they should continue or not depending on how much did they earn and/or popularity.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 13 2014 03:40 GMT
#89123
Hopefully it sells record amounts so ufotable does an even better job on the next season.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 13 2014 03:57 GMT
#89124
It will probably sell well based on the Type-Moon brand alone
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 13 2014 05:55 GMT
#89125
Terraformars: + Show Spoiler +
so, one of the countries was betraying them huh? Pretty big reveal in that case. These roaches though, my God, it's amazing what they've done over the past several hundred years. Their tactics, preparation etc... beyond belief. Wonder how they will close this off. Guess they'll just take the samples back home after this latest battle is finished or something.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
December 13 2014 07:32 GMT
#89126
I was always under the impression that split cour is done to get more production time.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 09:57:46
December 13 2014 09:42 GMT
#89127
On December 13 2014 07:34 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 19:11 ZenithM wrote:
On December 12 2014 14:44 blahz0r wrote:
Psycho Pass 2 such a mess. + Show Spoiler +
How can she to revoke her rights and not all those dead enforcers' dominators... like really? On the verge of being exposed lets bring up revoking the rights of the person who is less of a threat to your system, that is a brilliant choice! And misinformation isn't as great with all the advances in technology huh
Dang it was getting to an interesting part and have to wait a week.

+ Show Spoiler +
Huh, Akane specifically said that she would help Kamui (to get to Sybil and find out "what color" it is) if he released the hostages. She IS acting in a threatening way to Sybil, and plus, she's one of the only individuals who knows the truth, I don't see what's so unlikely about Sybil wanting to limit Akane's movements...
And by "rights", I understood "being an Inspector", not specifically firing a Dominator, which is the least of Akane's powers and responsabilities. It essentially means being fired.


I get that you're all trying to be edgy and elite and stuff, but at least try to do it fairly.

One thing that I do agree with though:
+ Show Spoiler +
I seem to remember that Sybil could actually purposely change the firing triggers for Dominators. I think it switched Akane's gun to Lethal Eliminator mode although she was pointing at someone with a crime coefficient valid for only Paralyser (that was in Season 1). I found it somewhat weird indeed you don't have any means to disable rogue dominators :D
I guess in this case, if Sybil was forced to disable its own dominators (which are instruments that only measure and are always "right" to fire if the PP is high enough: what I mean is that it's never a mistake if someone is killed by a dominator, it's just Sybil passing its judgment, no matter who actually held the gun, the carrier is not responsible), it would be denying itself. Whereas in the first season, I think it was part of the ploy to win Makishima over.

+ Show Spoiler +
Wouldn't be a problem if the guns were disabled in the first place after being compromised. For a system that has multiple minds at work, surely one could have come up with such a solution instead of being forced into a worse one later on. You even pointed it out yourself that the dominator can be modified on the fly by the system yet they wouldn't work out an exception for this case. Here's a hint, dominators = disabled, leads to rebel group not being able to try to overload the system to find a backway in.


You should look into what being edgy and elite actually means. All I am doing is pointing out a lack of consistency and logic.

edit: Adding one more thing + Show Spoiler +
The system passing judgement through the gun is fine but here's the other thing... Random user picks up the gun that they weren't allowed access to in the first place and using said object to judge others. Remember that the guns needed authorization to use, this means others aren't allowed to help pass judgement on their targets yet in this case it was allowed through surgery/implants. Would you say it's problematic if said gun were shut down for whatever reason because it did not belong in its original user's possession?

You pretty much picked the only thing that I agreed on and made an argument out of it again, so yeah, I can't really argue back ;D
The edgy/elite comment was more general than directed at you really. People like to criticize shows because it's cool to criticize them. It just happened that in this case I just had too much to argue against. Psycho-pass season 2 is not "such a mess" because + Show Spoiler +
Sybil for some reason doesn't interfere with rogue Dominators. I can actually find some decent reasons for that. For one, Sybil didn't believe Kamui existed until late in the unfolding of Kamui's plans. Plus, as I said, it would be acknowledging Kamui's point if Sybil were forced to disable their Dominators. Also, afaik it's not official at all that Sybil has a great control on Inspectors, Enforcers, Kasei is officially a regular human, not a body for Sybil, so it may be that the MWPSB just didn't think it would need to disable their gun because of super advanced surgery so they can't do it. If their guns started to be disabled, it would raise the question of "by whom", hence it would become public that Sybil directly controls the MWPSB, and doesn't just serve for the Psycho-pass measure. I also can find good reasons to disable them, mind you, which are probably the same as yours, but which obviously ruin the show so I'm willing to let that slide because, well, I like the show, and if they need the Dominators, I'm ready to let them have them. But I know I can suspend my disbelief very easily compared to my peers (this makes watching anything with my friends complicated because they can't get over plot holes and scientific inacuracies and stuff like that) so I can even understand why you can't accept this "flaw" :D.

Your comment that I most strongly disagreed on was about how silly it was for Kasei to fire Akane ("revoke her rights as Inspector"). First, it makes sense to fire her, she was bargaining with Kamui. Second, it's really not linked at all to whether Sibyl can disable dominators. Kasei is still in charge of the MWPSB, not Sybil. Officially they're not the same, this is a front Sybil intends to preserve.
Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
December 13 2014 10:02 GMT
#89128
On December 13 2014 16:32 Spazer wrote:
I was always under the impression that split cour is done to get more production time.


If there was anything that we learned from Shirabako is that it takes time to do all that fancy shit ufotable does.
"You sons of a silly person"
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8602 Posts
December 13 2014 11:19 GMT
#89129
Shigatsu ep10

+ Show Spoiler +
Was it a bit boring to me. Too long-winded. Still, the three stages he went through were nice. That Kaori could give him strength to seemingly come clear with his mother was nice as well.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 13 2014 11:21 GMT
#89130
Typ-Moon going to cash in more of that Saber money.
WriterXiao8~~
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 11:27:07
December 13 2014 11:26 GMT
#89131
On December 13 2014 19:02 Sterlymobile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 16:32 Spazer wrote:
I was always under the impression that split cour is done to get more production time.


If there was anything that we learned from Shirabako is that it takes time to do all that fancy shit ufotable does.

and if you don't take your time/have the time you end up like Twintails in the most recent 2 episodes

Though no idea if that drop in production is money related or time related.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 13 2014 11:30 GMT
#89132
On December 13 2014 20:21 Kipsate wrote:
Typ-Moon going to cash in more of that Saber money.


I'll never get why Saber is so popular when you have Rin and Illya
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 13 2014 11:43 GMT
#89133
On December 13 2014 18:42 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 07:34 blahz0r wrote:
On December 12 2014 19:11 ZenithM wrote:
On December 12 2014 14:44 blahz0r wrote:
Psycho Pass 2 such a mess. + Show Spoiler +
How can she to revoke her rights and not all those dead enforcers' dominators... like really? On the verge of being exposed lets bring up revoking the rights of the person who is less of a threat to your system, that is a brilliant choice! And misinformation isn't as great with all the advances in technology huh
Dang it was getting to an interesting part and have to wait a week.

+ Show Spoiler +
Huh, Akane specifically said that she would help Kamui (to get to Sybil and find out "what color" it is) if he released the hostages. She IS acting in a threatening way to Sybil, and plus, she's one of the only individuals who knows the truth, I don't see what's so unlikely about Sybil wanting to limit Akane's movements...
And by "rights", I understood "being an Inspector", not specifically firing a Dominator, which is the least of Akane's powers and responsabilities. It essentially means being fired.


I get that you're all trying to be edgy and elite and stuff, but at least try to do it fairly.

One thing that I do agree with though:
+ Show Spoiler +
I seem to remember that Sybil could actually purposely change the firing triggers for Dominators. I think it switched Akane's gun to Lethal Eliminator mode although she was pointing at someone with a crime coefficient valid for only Paralyser (that was in Season 1). I found it somewhat weird indeed you don't have any means to disable rogue dominators :D
I guess in this case, if Sybil was forced to disable its own dominators (which are instruments that only measure and are always "right" to fire if the PP is high enough: what I mean is that it's never a mistake if someone is killed by a dominator, it's just Sybil passing its judgment, no matter who actually held the gun, the carrier is not responsible), it would be denying itself. Whereas in the first season, I think it was part of the ploy to win Makishima over.

+ Show Spoiler +
Wouldn't be a problem if the guns were disabled in the first place after being compromised. For a system that has multiple minds at work, surely one could have come up with such a solution instead of being forced into a worse one later on. You even pointed it out yourself that the dominator can be modified on the fly by the system yet they wouldn't work out an exception for this case. Here's a hint, dominators = disabled, leads to rebel group not being able to try to overload the system to find a backway in.


You should look into what being edgy and elite actually means. All I am doing is pointing out a lack of consistency and logic.

edit: Adding one more thing + Show Spoiler +
The system passing judgement through the gun is fine but here's the other thing... Random user picks up the gun that they weren't allowed access to in the first place and using said object to judge others. Remember that the guns needed authorization to use, this means others aren't allowed to help pass judgement on their targets yet in this case it was allowed through surgery/implants. Would you say it's problematic if said gun were shut down for whatever reason because it did not belong in its original user's possession?

You pretty much picked the only thing that I agreed on and made an argument out of it again, so yeah, I can't really argue back ;D
The edgy/elite comment was more general than directed at you really. People like to criticize shows because it's cool to criticize them. It just happened that in this case I just had too much to argue against. Psycho-pass season 2 is not "such a mess" because + Show Spoiler +
Sybil for some reason doesn't interfere with rogue Dominators. I can actually find some decent reasons for that. For one, Sybil didn't believe Kamui existed until late in the unfolding of Kamui's plans. Plus, as I said, it would be acknowledging Kamui's point if Sybil were forced to disable their Dominators. Also, afaik it's not official at all that Sybil has a great control on Inspectors, Enforcers, Kasei is officially a regular human, not a body for Sybil, so it may be that the MWPSB just didn't think it would need to disable their gun because of super advanced surgery so they can't do it. If their guns started to be disabled, it would raise the question of "by whom", hence it would become public that Sybil directly controls the MWPSB, and doesn't just serve for the Psycho-pass measure. I also can find good reasons to disable them, mind you, which are probably the same as yours, but which obviously ruin the show so I'm willing to let that slide because, well, I like the show, and if they need the Dominators, I'm ready to let them have them. But I know I can suspend my disbelief very easily compared to my peers (this makes watching anything with my friends complicated because they can't get over plot holes and scientific inacuracies and stuff like that) so I can even understand why you can't accept this "flaw" :D.

Your comment that I most strongly disagreed on was about how silly it was for Kasei to fire Akane ("revoke her rights as Inspector"). First, it makes sense to fire her, she was bargaining with Kamui. Second, it's really not linked at all to whether Sibyl can disable dominators. Kasei is still in charge of the MWPSB, not Sybil. Officially they're not the same, this is a front Sybil intends to preserve.


fuck i really wanna talk about this but i am in a hurry so ill make another new post later. the key point is that sybil cannot interfere with the rogue guns (because it would go against themselves), it is an absolute kind of order/system that i didnt realize that until this season. so while i think s1 is so much more superior season but s2 brings something different on the table that is definitely not lazy as some other shitty 2nd cour animes just for the sake of making it
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
December 13 2014 12:11 GMT
#89134
On production issues, just look at Mushishi: split cour and they still were unable to finish the first half on time. Finished product is great and all, but they clearly wouldn't have been able to do that without the season break.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 13 2014 12:14 GMT
#89135
Isn't that mainly because they still working on the show as it's airing instead of finishing it or being almost finished when it starts? I thought that's how TV shows like HBO's stuff works where they film for most of the year then when done they release it. Wonder why anime works differently? Unless I'm mistaken.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#89136
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 13:11:46
December 13 2014 13:11 GMT
#89137
On December 13 2014 21:14 Numy wrote:
Isn't that mainly because they still working on the show as it's airing instead of finishing it or being almost finished when it starts? I thought that's how TV shows like HBO's stuff works where they film for most of the year then when done they release it. Wonder why anime works differently? Unless I'm mistaken.

so that you can pull the emergency break if people don't like it/sells badly and throttle down the budget thus limiting the damage.

But really, it's probably just a "has been done that way, will be done that way" thing
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44235 Posts
December 13 2014 13:34 GMT
#89138
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/12/12/my-wife-is-the-student-council-president-anime-announced

The story begins with Izumi Hayato running to be student body president. But when a beautiful girl swings in promising the liberalization of love while flinging condoms into the audience, he ends up losing to her and becoming the vice president. At the student council meeting, the newly-elected president invites herself over to
Izumi's house, where she promptly announces she is to become Izumi's wife thanks to an agreement – facilitated by alcohol – made between their parents when they were only 3.


-Oku-sama ga Seito Kaichou! summary


rofl whenever this is i'm gonna watch the shit out of this
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44235 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 13:50:20
December 13 2014 13:38 GMT
#89139
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cgfzq



Tsukimonogatari PV2

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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 13:42:02
December 13 2014 13:41 GMT
#89140
On December 13 2014 20:43 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 18:42 ZenithM wrote:
On December 13 2014 07:34 blahz0r wrote:
On December 12 2014 19:11 ZenithM wrote:
On December 12 2014 14:44 blahz0r wrote:
Psycho Pass 2 such a mess. + Show Spoiler +
How can she to revoke her rights and not all those dead enforcers' dominators... like really? On the verge of being exposed lets bring up revoking the rights of the person who is less of a threat to your system, that is a brilliant choice! And misinformation isn't as great with all the advances in technology huh
Dang it was getting to an interesting part and have to wait a week.

+ Show Spoiler +
Huh, Akane specifically said that she would help Kamui (to get to Sybil and find out "what color" it is) if he released the hostages. She IS acting in a threatening way to Sybil, and plus, she's one of the only individuals who knows the truth, I don't see what's so unlikely about Sybil wanting to limit Akane's movements...
And by "rights", I understood "being an Inspector", not specifically firing a Dominator, which is the least of Akane's powers and responsabilities. It essentially means being fired.


I get that you're all trying to be edgy and elite and stuff, but at least try to do it fairly.

One thing that I do agree with though:
+ Show Spoiler +
I seem to remember that Sybil could actually purposely change the firing triggers for Dominators. I think it switched Akane's gun to Lethal Eliminator mode although she was pointing at someone with a crime coefficient valid for only Paralyser (that was in Season 1). I found it somewhat weird indeed you don't have any means to disable rogue dominators :D
I guess in this case, if Sybil was forced to disable its own dominators (which are instruments that only measure and are always "right" to fire if the PP is high enough: what I mean is that it's never a mistake if someone is killed by a dominator, it's just Sybil passing its judgment, no matter who actually held the gun, the carrier is not responsible), it would be denying itself. Whereas in the first season, I think it was part of the ploy to win Makishima over.

+ Show Spoiler +
Wouldn't be a problem if the guns were disabled in the first place after being compromised. For a system that has multiple minds at work, surely one could have come up with such a solution instead of being forced into a worse one later on. You even pointed it out yourself that the dominator can be modified on the fly by the system yet they wouldn't work out an exception for this case. Here's a hint, dominators = disabled, leads to rebel group not being able to try to overload the system to find a backway in.


You should look into what being edgy and elite actually means. All I am doing is pointing out a lack of consistency and logic.

edit: Adding one more thing + Show Spoiler +
The system passing judgement through the gun is fine but here's the other thing... Random user picks up the gun that they weren't allowed access to in the first place and using said object to judge others. Remember that the guns needed authorization to use, this means others aren't allowed to help pass judgement on their targets yet in this case it was allowed through surgery/implants. Would you say it's problematic if said gun were shut down for whatever reason because it did not belong in its original user's possession?

You pretty much picked the only thing that I agreed on and made an argument out of it again, so yeah, I can't really argue back ;D
The edgy/elite comment was more general than directed at you really. People like to criticize shows because it's cool to criticize them. It just happened that in this case I just had too much to argue against. Psycho-pass season 2 is not "such a mess" because + Show Spoiler +
Sybil for some reason doesn't interfere with rogue Dominators. I can actually find some decent reasons for that. For one, Sybil didn't believe Kamui existed until late in the unfolding of Kamui's plans. Plus, as I said, it would be acknowledging Kamui's point if Sybil were forced to disable their Dominators. Also, afaik it's not official at all that Sybil has a great control on Inspectors, Enforcers, Kasei is officially a regular human, not a body for Sybil, so it may be that the MWPSB just didn't think it would need to disable their gun because of super advanced surgery so they can't do it. If their guns started to be disabled, it would raise the question of "by whom", hence it would become public that Sybil directly controls the MWPSB, and doesn't just serve for the Psycho-pass measure. I also can find good reasons to disable them, mind you, which are probably the same as yours, but which obviously ruin the show so I'm willing to let that slide because, well, I like the show, and if they need the Dominators, I'm ready to let them have them. But I know I can suspend my disbelief very easily compared to my peers (this makes watching anything with my friends complicated because they can't get over plot holes and scientific inacuracies and stuff like that) so I can even understand why you can't accept this "flaw" :D.

Your comment that I most strongly disagreed on was about how silly it was for Kasei to fire Akane ("revoke her rights as Inspector"). First, it makes sense to fire her, she was bargaining with Kamui. Second, it's really not linked at all to whether Sibyl can disable dominators. Kasei is still in charge of the MWPSB, not Sybil. Officially they're not the same, this is a front Sybil intends to preserve.


fuck i really wanna talk about this but i am in a hurry so ill make another new post later. the key point is that sybil cannot interfere with the rogue guns (because it would go against themselves), it is an absolute kind of order/system that i didnt realize that until this season. so while i think s1 is so much more superior season but s2 brings something different on the table that is definitely not lazy as some other shitty 2nd cour animes just for the sake of making it

Yeah, that's what my guess is about Sybil too. Don't forget your post, I'm interested in what you have to say :D

My biggest hope for this season is that + Show Spoiler +
Kogami comes back at some point (like, for real, not just Akane talking to herself), probably to help Akane. But I don't really expect it to happen
. Akane is such a fucking cool character though, I didn't expect her to grow on me like that after the first season.
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