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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 16 2013 02:47 GMT
#65481
Complains about Suzuka.

Watches KNIM.

I can't hold back my laughter.
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
November 16 2013 02:49 GMT
#65482
Now you're enticing me to watch Suzuka...damn. Is it as awfully hilarious as M.D.Geist?
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 03:05:27
November 16 2013 02:50 GMT
#65483
Nothing happens in Suzuka, it was all just made up drama that never leads to anything. Not much really happens between episodes 1 and 26 :|. At least KNIM had interesting characters. No, it's not so hilariously bad it's good, it's just awful. The characters are empty husks with no personality what so ever, so it's hard to give a crap about anyone and makes the story pointless.

Also I forgot to mention this, FUCK MAL, that's where I got the recommendation from. Never watching anything the users of that crap recommend.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 16 2013 03:07 GMT
#65484
Frankly I think every complaint you have about Suzuka applies perfectly to KNIM so I am still busy laughing.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 16 2013 03:15 GMT
#65485
Oh well different tastes , I actually liked KNIM. I just want my hours back , Suzuka was not worth it. I rather watch that new gundam or destiny again lol.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 16 2013 03:15 GMT
#65486
On November 16 2013 11:03 Slaughter wrote:
It probably has to do with the fact that it was a movie, but Shirou gained power and skill very suddenly and fast. Like, no effort at all he was able to start creating weapons AND managing to spar with Archer and later Gilgamesh. In the series he got his teeth kicked in basically every time he tried to fight and sucked at swordplay while he was training with Saber. Gaining his epic hero powers *snap* like that was just poorly done and this is coming from the anime genre where sudden power ups are common place.

Yes Gilgamesh was arrogant but that only goes so far. He only pulled out his trump card at the last second only to get his arm chopped off.


Actually, I'm pretty sure Gilgamesh's arrogance goes all the way. It's apparently even on his stat card. Plus he's from old-school mythology, which consists entirely of people arrogant enough to do stupid shit and lose their lives (or worse) because they lacked a lot of common sense.



About Suzuka...at least it had a good sound track. Which is about the only mention that series deserves.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 16 2013 03:22 GMT
#65487
People don't know the meaning of bad until they watch Giniro no Olynnsis.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
November 16 2013 03:37 GMT
#65488
On November 16 2013 09:57 Nagisama wrote:
[19:24] <nagisama> it's next day morning for kaze
[19:24] <nagisama> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:24] * KazeHydra (cgiirc@Rizon-2AEB2B6A.ap.yournet.ne.jp) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[19:24] <nagisama> orz
[19:24] <nagisama> wow
[19:24] <nagisama> that rejection

09:18 KazeHydra anyway gotta go to lab meetings
09:18 nagisama the flash will buy you time
09:19 nagisama lol

also Suzuka and KNIM are basically the same thing written by the same guy, so lol.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 03:57:36
November 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#65489
Well one got me interested into reading the manga to see what didn't make it to the anime and what happens after, the other made me so furious I had to take a long walk because of how pointless it all felt . So obviously I perceived the quality of both as different as night and day.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
November 16 2013 04:06 GMT
#65490
Happy birthday, Kaze! <3
Writer
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 16 2013 04:08 GMT
#65491
On November 16 2013 12:57 TanKLoveR wrote:
Well one got me interested into reading the manga to see what didn't make it to the anime and what happens after, the other made me so furious I had to take a long walk because of how pointless it all felt . So obviously I perceived the quality of both as different as night and day.

Suzuka was meh, but at least ended on a decent note, while KNIM started off decent, but slowly descended into Haruto being pathetic and rage-inducing and adding more and more people into the harem. I'm talking about the manga, and not the anime as I never bothered to watch the anime after reading the manga.. KMNIM probably one of the most rage-inducing manga I've ever read especially with how it was dragged out.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 16 2013 04:19 GMT
#65492
On November 16 2013 13:08 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 12:57 TanKLoveR wrote:
Well one got me interested into reading the manga to see what didn't make it to the anime and what happens after, the other made me so furious I had to take a long walk because of how pointless it all felt . So obviously I perceived the quality of both as different as night and day.

Suzuka was meh, but at least ended on a decent note, while KNIM started off decent, but slowly descended into Haruto being pathetic and rage-inducing and adding more and more people into the harem. I'm talking about the manga, and not the anime as I never bothered to watch the anime after reading the manga.. KMNIM probably one of the most rage-inducing manga I've ever read especially with how it was dragged out.

There was nothing decent about Suzuka, though idk if you're referring to the manga or anime. Either way the whole thing was pointless since the characters had no personality or really any reason to do anything other than the 1 thing the writer decided they should do. Specially the idiot lead character. At least Haruto seemed to have a life outside of trying to be with Eba and he liked Asuka for a while, also Eba was a believable character unlike Suzuka. You make KNIM sound like white album lol, I did hear the whole thing isn't great and it did outstay its welcome but it seems to be good to a point so I'll read it until that point.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 16 2013 04:34 GMT
#65493
On November 16 2013 13:19 TanKLoveR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:08 Nemesis wrote:
On November 16 2013 12:57 TanKLoveR wrote:
Well one got me interested into reading the manga to see what didn't make it to the anime and what happens after, the other made me so furious I had to take a long walk because of how pointless it all felt . So obviously I perceived the quality of both as different as night and day.

Suzuka was meh, but at least ended on a decent note, while KNIM started off decent, but slowly descended into Haruto being pathetic and rage-inducing and adding more and more people into the harem. I'm talking about the manga, and not the anime as I never bothered to watch the anime after reading the manga.. KMNIM probably one of the most rage-inducing manga I've ever read especially with how it was dragged out.

There was nothing decent about Suzuka, though idk if you're referring to the manga or anime. Either way the whole thing was pointless since the characters had no personality or really any reason to do anything other than the 1 thing the writer decided they should do. Specially the idiot lead character. At least Haruto seemed to have a life outside of trying to be with Eba and he liked Asuka for a while, also Eba was a believable character unlike Suzuka. You make KNIM sound like white album lol, I did hear the whole thing isn't great and it did outstay its welcome but it seems to be good to a point so I'll read it until that point.

First arc in KMNIM was decent, probably why I didn't stop reading it until 100+ chapter in. Then, it really starts dragging out starting in Tokyo. Never read or watched white album so can't comment on that
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 16 2013 04:35 GMT
#65494
Frankly, I'm shocked any of that guys work could ever be talked about in a positive light. It seems like everything he makes is just Harem/Romance distilled down to its most irritating parts.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 04:43:25
November 16 2013 04:35 GMT
#65495
man, I'm so confused by Clannad After Story. Finished watching it:
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Nagisa died and he ended up raising Ushio after 5 years but eventually, like Nagisa, she has the same sickness and passes away from it when she is still young. At that point, I'm completely lost. Supposdly, there's another ending that can happen if he collects all the orbs in the other dream world he's in so does that mean he gets the other ending? :S While I was pretty sad that Nagisa died, seeing Ushio and him get along and his problems with his father get fixed was great. Seeing Ushio die leaving him alone again was not something I enjoyed at all

Can someone please explain to me + Show Spoiler +
which is the correct ending or rather if there is even one?


edit:
seems like + Show Spoiler +
they all died. Nagisa from the sickness after she gave birth. Ushio from the sickness as well when they went outside and Tomoya dies from succumbing to his grief. Sad story I guess this is the true ending. I knew there was something peculiar about the girl in the dream world. The way she looks like Nagisa, turns out it was Ushio.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 04:46:50
November 16 2013 04:41 GMT
#65496
On November 16 2013 13:35 BigFan wrote:
man, I'm so confused by Clannad After Story. Finished watching it:
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Nagisa died and he ended up raising Ushio after 5 years but eventually, like Nagisa, she has the same sickness and passes away from it when she is still young. At that point, I'm completely lost. Supposdly, there's another ending that can happen if he collects all the orbs in the other dream world he's in so does that mean he gets the other ending? :S While I was pretty sad that Nagisa died, seeing Ushio and him get along and his problems with his father get fixed was great. Seeing Ushio die leaving him alone again was not something I enjoyed at all

Can someone please explain to me + Show Spoiler +
which is the correct ending or rather if there is even one?


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you not see the one episode that ends with Ushio sleeping under a tree? The "true" ending (if you collect all the orbs in the game) was that Nagisa and Ushio live and its all good. Basically the girl in the other world is Ushio who created the world because she didn't want her dad to suffer and the robot was her dad. In the anime the dad syncs up briefly with his robot self then he still chooses to call out of Nagisa and begin their life together as opposed to his earlier wish of never meeting her so none of the bad happens. In that moment he goes back to the time when Ushio was born and Nagisa does not die and no one but possibly the MC has any inkling of the "alternate" world where all the bad things happen.

So basically the true ending is supposed to be they live happily ever after. The orbs created from happiness that can cause miracles that are hinted at throughout the series basically act to allow the MC to relive his life starting from the time of Ushios birth but without Nagisa or Ushio dying

Never Knows Best.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 16 2013 04:45 GMT
#65497
On November 16 2013 13:35 BigFan wrote:
man, I'm so confused by Clannad After Story. Finished watching it:
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Nagisa died and he ended up raising Ushio after 5 years but eventually, like Nagisa, she has the same sickness and passes away from it when she is still young. At that point, I'm completely lost. Supposdly, there's another ending that can happen if he collects all the orbs in the other dream world he's in so does that mean he gets the other ending? :S While I was pretty sad that Nagisa died, seeing Ushio and him get along and his problems with his father get fixed was great. Seeing Ushio die leaving him alone again was not something I enjoyed at all

Can someone please explain to me + Show Spoiler +
which is the correct ending or rather if there is even one?

If I remember right:
+ Show Spoiler +
It was key magic. Because you collect all the lights that can cause miracle. In the other world where no one exist but the girl that is Ushio, she made a miracle happen, and Okazaki was sent back in time or something like that and Nagisa doesn't die.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 16 2013 04:47 GMT
#65498
On November 16 2013 13:41 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:35 BigFan wrote:
man, I'm so confused by Clannad After Story. Finished watching it:
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Nagisa died and he ended up raising Ushio after 5 years but eventually, like Nagisa, she has the same sickness and passes away from it when she is still young. At that point, I'm completely lost. Supposdly, there's another ending that can happen if he collects all the orbs in the other dream world he's in so does that mean he gets the other ending? :S While I was pretty sad that Nagisa died, seeing Ushio and him get along and his problems with his father get fixed was great. Seeing Ushio die leaving him alone again was not something I enjoyed at all

Can someone please explain to me + Show Spoiler +
which is the correct ending or rather if there is even one?


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you not see the one episode that ends with Ushio sleeping under a tree? The "true" ending (if you collect all the orbs in the game) was that Nagisa and Ushio live and its all good. Basically the girl in the other world is Ushio who created the world because she didn't want her dad to suffer and the robot was her dad. In the anime the dad syncs up briefly with his robot self then he still chooses to call out of Nagisa and begin their life together as opposed to his earlier wish of never meeting her so none of the bad happens. In that moment he goes back to the time when Ushio was born and Nagisa does not die and no one but possibly the MC has any inkling of the "alternate" world where all the bad things happen.

So basically the true ending is supposed to be they live happily ever after.

+ Show Spoiler +
ya I watched that episode. Her being there didn't make sense or rather, being there on her own didn't make sense to me. I guess it's one of those things to take as is. Ya, I read up and heard her saying the dad is the robot and the world is her creation or w/e her phrase was. Ya, I saw him calling her after hesitating and her saying that she was hoping that he didn't think meeting her was a mistake. I get that part but the transition seemed so odd. I mean, I figured that maybe, when he saw her die and such, it was all about thinking it or seeing into some future but then that was reversed or didn't happen so they were a family. So, you're saying that had he stuck with the idea that meeting her was the right thing from the start, that she wouldn't have died?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 04:50:19
November 16 2013 04:49 GMT
#65499
On November 16 2013 13:47 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:41 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:35 BigFan wrote:
man, I'm so confused by Clannad After Story. Finished watching it:
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Nagisa died and he ended up raising Ushio after 5 years but eventually, like Nagisa, she has the same sickness and passes away from it when she is still young. At that point, I'm completely lost. Supposdly, there's another ending that can happen if he collects all the orbs in the other dream world he's in so does that mean he gets the other ending? :S While I was pretty sad that Nagisa died, seeing Ushio and him get along and his problems with his father get fixed was great. Seeing Ushio die leaving him alone again was not something I enjoyed at all

Can someone please explain to me + Show Spoiler +
which is the correct ending or rather if there is even one?


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you not see the one episode that ends with Ushio sleeping under a tree? The "true" ending (if you collect all the orbs in the game) was that Nagisa and Ushio live and its all good. Basically the girl in the other world is Ushio who created the world because she didn't want her dad to suffer and the robot was her dad. In the anime the dad syncs up briefly with his robot self then he still chooses to call out of Nagisa and begin their life together as opposed to his earlier wish of never meeting her so none of the bad happens. In that moment he goes back to the time when Ushio was born and Nagisa does not die and no one but possibly the MC has any inkling of the "alternate" world where all the bad things happen.

So basically the true ending is supposed to be they live happily ever after.

+ Show Spoiler +
ya I watched that episode. Her being there didn't make sense or rather, being there on her own didn't make sense to me. I guess it's one of those things to take as is. Ya, I read up and heard her saying the dad is the robot and the world is her creation or w/e her phrase was. Ya, I saw him calling her after hesitating and her saying that she was hoping that he didn't think meeting her was a mistake. I get that part but the transition seemed so odd. I mean, I figured that maybe, when he saw her die and such, it was all about thinking it or seeing into some future but then that was reversed or didn't happen so they were a family. So, you're saying that had he stuck with the idea that meeting her was the right thing from the start, that she wouldn't have died?


The reply above you (and I added more to my post) explains it better. Basically the mystic forces talked about throughout the series come through for the MC.
Never Knows Best.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 16 2013 04:56 GMT
#65500
On November 16 2013 13:49 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 13:47 BigFan wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:41 Slaughter wrote:
On November 16 2013 13:35 BigFan wrote:
man, I'm so confused by Clannad After Story. Finished watching it:
+ Show Spoiler +
I get that Nagisa died and he ended up raising Ushio after 5 years but eventually, like Nagisa, she has the same sickness and passes away from it when she is still young. At that point, I'm completely lost. Supposdly, there's another ending that can happen if he collects all the orbs in the other dream world he's in so does that mean he gets the other ending? :S While I was pretty sad that Nagisa died, seeing Ushio and him get along and his problems with his father get fixed was great. Seeing Ushio die leaving him alone again was not something I enjoyed at all

Can someone please explain to me + Show Spoiler +
which is the correct ending or rather if there is even one?


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you not see the one episode that ends with Ushio sleeping under a tree? The "true" ending (if you collect all the orbs in the game) was that Nagisa and Ushio live and its all good. Basically the girl in the other world is Ushio who created the world because she didn't want her dad to suffer and the robot was her dad. In the anime the dad syncs up briefly with his robot self then he still chooses to call out of Nagisa and begin their life together as opposed to his earlier wish of never meeting her so none of the bad happens. In that moment he goes back to the time when Ushio was born and Nagisa does not die and no one but possibly the MC has any inkling of the "alternate" world where all the bad things happen.

So basically the true ending is supposed to be they live happily ever after.

+ Show Spoiler +
ya I watched that episode. Her being there didn't make sense or rather, being there on her own didn't make sense to me. I guess it's one of those things to take as is. Ya, I read up and heard her saying the dad is the robot and the world is her creation or w/e her phrase was. Ya, I saw him calling her after hesitating and her saying that she was hoping that he didn't think meeting her was a mistake. I get that part but the transition seemed so odd. I mean, I figured that maybe, when he saw her die and such, it was all about thinking it or seeing into some future but then that was reversed or didn't happen so they were a family. So, you're saying that had he stuck with the idea that meeting her was the right thing from the start, that she wouldn't have died?


The reply above you (and I added more to my post) explains it better. Basically the mystic forces talked about throughout the series come through for the MC.

hmm just to make sure I got it:
+ Show Spoiler +
hmm his good deeds and such throughout the series which is when we usually saw the orbs and then him not regretting meeting her eventually allowed him to go back in time to before she died? The dream was mostly created by his daughter to help him keep his sanity?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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