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elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 09:40:05
November 16 2013 09:38 GMT
#65521
On November 16 2013 18:23 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 17:31 TanKLoveR wrote:
I just read it, lol I got hmmm caught up watching Beck, forgot how addictive that show is for me. I WANT A GIRL LIKE MAHO, RIGHT NAO!.

+ Show Spoiler [Infinite Stratos 2] +
Not sure if anyone noticed this but Broom confessed to Ichika when he was taking her back to the academy. He just brushed it off with something, "oh Houki" lol.



+ Show Spoiler [IS 2] +
Pretty sure that was Houki sleep talking and Ichika being hard of hearing to maintain the status quo
(Under Construction)
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
November 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#65522
Ichika suffers temporary deafness whenever a girl tries to confess to him.
Skol
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 16 2013 10:33 GMT
#65523
On November 16 2013 17:31 TanKLoveR wrote:
I just read it, lol I got hmmm caught up watching Beck, forgot how addictive that show is for me. I WANT A GIRL LIKE MAHO, RIGHT NAO!.


Ah, Beck. Back when a music show could be about the music instead of moe fanservice. And about the only time when Much Music actually aired a show about music.

And one of the few times you will ever hear Greg Ayres and Brina Palencia sing (in the Dub), if you remotely care about western voice actors.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
November 16 2013 10:43 GMT
#65524
On November 16 2013 18:53 Emnjay808 wrote:
Ichika suffers temporary deafness whenever a girl tries to confess to him.


The gods intervention to keep every other ship sailing.
(Under Construction)
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
November 16 2013 10:56 GMT
#65525
On November 16 2013 19:43 elt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 18:53 Emnjay808 wrote:
Ichika suffers temporary deafness whenever a girl tries to confess to him.


The gods intervention to keep every other ship sailing.


Harem god (of conquest) katsuragi. (speaking of which best TWGOK chapter in a super long time :3 )
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 16 2013 14:34 GMT
#65526
On November 16 2013 18:23 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 17:31 TanKLoveR wrote:
I just read it, lol I got hmmm caught up watching Beck, forgot how addictive that show is for me. I WANT A GIRL LIKE MAHO, RIGHT NAO!.

Was a lot shorter than I expected hahaha, you're too distracted trying to understand Clannad, fail. I would have helped but I watched that show centuries ago, I only remember there was a girl called Nagisa . When I rewatch it so I can enjoy After Story I'll nag you for discussion . I'll respond later haha, I'll try to make it before the new episode airs. One thing, glad you finally admit defeat about the whole date thing hahaha. And yeah sure, I just wrote it in 2 because they were kind of separate.

hmm all I see are excuses good for reading it though XD I wanted to make sure you got the underlined part but seems like you picked up on it when you rewatched the episode so it's all good then lol. lot shorter? There's about 10 paragraphs in there I can write more but then there's no point in repeating what you wrote if I agree XD Clannad had 46 episodes and was very captivating to watch. I thoroughly enjoyed watching Clannad and had no problems/confusion about it. I thought the pace was appropriate, characters were realistic enough and it had some unexpected twists which were believable to a decent degree. After Story though, while I also enjoyed it as well and honestly, I think Toradora needed an after story like Clannad(we both mentioned this in our discussion), it left me quite confused by the end. Watching an anime then having doubts about how it ended the way it did or why is not fun lol. Glad to know TLADT knows their animes well in that regard ^^

ya, I wanted to respond before the new episode aired otherwise the response isn't as good anymore. I only admitted defeat before I was too lazy to recheck the dates in the episodes you mentioned so it wasn't me admitting defeat as much as me being too lazy and giving you a victory, one that you did not earn ya, it's ok, I get what you mean. Thought it'll be easier for us if we plan to keep discussing WA2

+ Show Spoiler [Infinite Stratos 2] +
Not sure if anyone noticed this but Broom confessed to Ichika when he was taking her back to the academy. He just brushed it off with something, "oh Houki" lol.


Lol yeah I read the underlined part first actually, I was like O.o did he not read it when I mentioned that? lol. Then I saw it was in the 2nd wall of text and your reply to that lol. I picked up quite a few details after rewatching it, I would eat dinner and rewatch the episodes to try to pick up stuff I might have ignored. Your rants are becoming weak that's the real problem here, pfft only a few paragraphs YOU DISAPPOINT ME YOUNG PADAWAN LOL. Yeah Clannad + the After story is pretty long, I remember liking it but I don't really remember much about it haha, I also remember a lot of people whining about the art style lol I didn't mind it. Yeah Clannad is way more realistic and rational than anything Suzuka ever did, I would be careful about wasting my time with that turd. While yeah I agree Tora ended suddenly, I don't think it would benefit from something as long, at most 1-2 ovas that aren't complete garbage. There wasn't much story development left after it ended since everyone was moving on to their own goals and I don't think it would be entertaining with everyone separated. WHAT WOULD I DO WITHOUT MY BEAUTIFUL AMI D: ? Tora can't exist without Ami <3 lol. Where do you think we are? we're in the den of the anime addicts, addicts far worse than us , it's only natural they watch EVERYTHING .

You took too freaking long, gosh, made me wait a week for your reply /ends friendship ¬¬. I was watching the last episode AGAIN only watching at that scene when they tell Setsuna about the song but I kept looping that part so I didn't noticed, DURING THAT PART THERE WAS ANOTHER CLOCK XD, I almost edited my post to add that other clock but fuck it I had made my point already . I'm the least lazy of the both of us, so I'll always win then . I'm going through your rant atm so I'll post it in a few.

On November 16 2013 19:33 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 17:31 TanKLoveR wrote:
I just read it, lol I got hmmm caught up watching Beck, forgot how addictive that show is for me. I WANT A GIRL LIKE MAHO, RIGHT NAO!.


Ah, Beck. Back when a music show could be about the music instead of moe fanservice. And about the only time when Much Music actually aired a show about music.

And one of the few times you will ever hear Greg Ayres and Brina Palencia sing (in the Dub), if you remotely care about western voice actors.


You sound annoyed about K-ON! lol. I really liked that show, I didn't even know what moe was when I watched that lol, I just found it really funny, maybe I only did because I never watch that type of shows but yeah lacking in music but oh well it was fun to watch at least.

+ Show Spoiler [Log Horizon] +
:O Holy crap Shiro is hustling pretty hard lol, he's gonna start buying real state apparently, should be fun to watch how the economy of that world develops. They should just get more guild members and franchise those burgers, would make the money to buy every building in town in no time . Also poor Marie D:, they are overworking the poor girl. I love how deceitfully evil people with glasses are in that world
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
November 16 2013 15:43 GMT
#65527
Log Horizon keeps getting better with each episode.

+ Show Spoiler +
They can't really franchise those burgers out at this point because eventually the cooking method is going to get out and then they can't charge exorbitant prices anymore. Monopoly power yo', fear dem accountants and glasses.
(Under Construction)
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 16 2013 16:14 GMT
#65528
On November 17 2013 00:43 elt wrote:
Log Horizon keeps getting better with each episode.

+ Show Spoiler +
They can't really franchise those burgers out at this point because eventually the cooking method is going to get out and then they can't charge exorbitant prices anymore. Monopoly power yo', fear dem accountants and glasses.

+ Show Spoiler +
If that were the case then we wouldn't have mcdonalds, burger king, starbucks etc etc etc, they are first, they are the originals so they have an advantage . To say they can't franchise the burger joint because someone else can make burgers is silly, specially if Shiro is taking a more capitalist approach which seems to be what they are doing. They can easily do it as long as they are better than the competition, but it seems they just want to raise enough from the 1 burger place to buy a big building that will give them more returns. Can they charge rent? lol I can't think what else they could do besides that with the buildings.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#65529
On November 16 2013 18:53 Emnjay808 wrote:
Ichika suffers temporary deafness whenever a girl tries to confess to him.


The infamous selective male hearing strikes again. Broom certainly gained some brownie points this episode.
Never Knows Best.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 16 2013 16:41 GMT
#65530
The concept is so simple that it is impossible to maintain a monopoly. There is no first mover advantage to something like this except maybe brand power, and that's a weak one at best. So yes, it is impossible to franchise it beyond a certain extent because there is no way to protect trade secrets. There is no way for a small guild to be better than the competition because everyone can use the method should the trade secret be known, no time lag between learning of method and mass producing with it. Sure, at some point when the market becomes saturated enough smaller differences will pop out, but at this point? Also, it should be obvious that they have no way of keeping up with just supplying themselves. There is no branding power to be had when large guilds can easily pop up dozens of stores while you can barely keep two to three running.

Whatever the case though, the method pissed me off. The monopoly using method pissed me off. But I can't complain because I didn't guess method before they revealed in vol 2. Sigh.

Zone thing pisses me off too, but that's because it was introduced at the very beginning of the books and anime just randomly slips this in now when it is obvious how important the concept is.
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
November 16 2013 16:50 GMT
#65531
What Eca said.

Just watched the first movie of LoGH. Um. Wow. I started watching the OVA yet but I'm a little worried about how I'll react to the inconsistent drawing, because the original is beautiful. But whatever, the hand drawn art is only one part of it.

It does make me think a little of The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay though, if anyone here has read that book. I look forward to see how their relationship is developed.
(Under Construction)
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 16 2013 16:56 GMT
#65532
Yes there are bigger guilds, yes they can do more in less time than they can do since they are a small guild which can't keep up with demand with just one store as it is. But that's why I said, start recruiting and get to it, I don't see why they couldn't franchise even with competition around, also Coke says hello (trade secrets and what not). For now they have the advantage that A) No one knows how to cook properly, B) They still have to LEARN to do it well and C) Their food will be lackluster for a while. So yeah they have an advantage for being first for even KNOW how to cook this shit and being good on top of it, they can open several stores while everyone else catches up. I don't think they are monopolizing anything, they are simply first, I'm sure more guilds will start to do the same because obviously making tons of money is a good thing for them. I want to see how this whole thing shakes up and what they plan to do with all the real estate they want to buy.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:07:50
November 16 2013 17:06 GMT
#65533
None of what you said is true.

No, seriously, none of what you said is true.
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:13:56
November 16 2013 17:09 GMT
#65534
This is getting off-topic, but Coke maintain its dominance through superior marketing and branding. They pour billions into marketing, and they're pretty damn good at it because they're essentially selling fizzy sugared brown water.

There's no trademark, patent or copyright protection for them if they start to disseminate the knowledge. This primitive level of economy is reminiscent of the guild-dominated economy of Europe. But they don't have recourse if a guild member turns tail and joins another guild for money/position/etc. If Shiro wants to milk the most out of this it's by pushing those glasses further up his nose and keeping an iron fist over production. Yes, copy cats might be lackluster, but they can undercut, and at some point the benefit from tastier food will be outweighed by the cost.
(Under Construction)
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:13:15
November 16 2013 17:12 GMT
#65535
There is no point even assuming that copies will be lackluster because they won't be. They won't need to learn to do it well. And no, they will all be able to cook properly to begin with. That's ignoring how quality differences is hard to discern when the average quality is that things taste like nothing vs tasting like food. The impact of the smaller differences will only be a factor over time, and they don't even have an advantage on that particular matter really.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:20:51
November 16 2013 17:18 GMT
#65536
On November 17 2013 01:50 elt wrote:
What Eca said.

Just watched the first movie of LoGH. Um. Wow. I started watching the OVA yet but I'm a little worried about how I'll react to the inconsistent drawing, because the original is beautiful. But whatever, the hand drawn art is only one part of it.

It does make me think a little of The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay though, if anyone here has read that book. I look forward to see how their relationship is developed.

Like I said, the OVA only had small parts of it redrawn, and the original parts that were redrawn are FAR from beautiful. I posted screenshot comparisons yesterday, in case you missed them.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 16 2013 17:37 GMT
#65537
Instead of telling me that I'm wrong, please enlighten me and tell me WHY none of what I said is true.

Unless I'm wrong, the cat guy said that you just need to cook the way you would cook in the outside world and not using the "crafting" system to cook the ingredients, which is why the food taste so bad people rely on the crafting system. When the way the game works is more akin to real life now. He was teaching those other guys to cook, and you can see the food wasn't as good as he could be so why would everyone else just be best chef in the world from the get go when the cat guy and these other cooks had to learn from scratch?. If it works like in the real world then we would all be world class chefs without ever really "practicing".

While Coke may not have a trademark on selling sugared water, they do are the only ones with that particular taste/fomula and they've kept that a secret for many years. You bring another point, advertising and marketing, why couldn't they advertise Shiro's burger joint? that could be easily done to win over the customers, sure they don't have twitter or tv but I doubt advertisement started with either. Just think of it as going to mcdonalds over going to a ridiculously expensive restaurant or not even that expensive just better quality food, they can easily compete with mcdonalds with their own burger king or they can just offer a different/better more expensive product, no reason why a more premium product wouldn't sell. Sure those guys can make a burger too but they don't use the best ingredients so ours is more expensive.

The market will obviously get flooded with proper tasting food so there won't be a tasting like nothing vs tasting like food from this point forward, once everyone starts cooking which you say they will be rockstars at from the get go then it will be about who makes the best food at that point.
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:47:47
November 16 2013 17:42 GMT
#65538
Because I don't want to waste my time explaining something that will be one, elaborated in the anime. Two, be obvious if you actually think about it.

He wasn't teaching people how to cook, though that will be a thing at some point. He was teaching them what their limitations are in terms of cooking. Rather than turning out better food, their goal was to turn out things that wasn't junk. In case it wasn't obvious enough, cooking levels determines how much you can do to food before it turns into junk. Notice how the anime had done basically nothing thus far on how to improve the tastes of the said cooking as opposed to not failing.

Incidentally the capturing shit alive part wasn't in the source, just wanted to throw that out while I remember.
TanKLoveR
Profile Joined August 2008
Venezuela838 Posts
November 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#65539
If the game is supposed to work now like the real world just in a fantasy setting, then why would it be so different from the actual real world?
Moroshima Haruka, forever best girl. My dream is to die thinking "Wow, that was fun. I'm tired."
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:50:36
November 16 2013 17:49 GMT
#65540
On November 17 2013 02:48 TanKLoveR wrote:
If the game is supposed to work now like the real world just in a fantasy setting, then why would it be so different from the actual real world?

Why don't you stop to actually think about the bloody situation instead of assuming that to be true?

You realize Shiroe's actions for the entirety of the anime up to this week was to show how that isn't the case.
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