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Slaughter
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Zergneedsfood
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On November 04 2013 04:28 da_head wrote: You think gundam wing is stupid? Jesus you guys really are a bunch of elitist otakus.. Noooooo please don't. | ||
BigFan
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On November 04 2013 03:41 Sentenal wrote: Of course its my opinion, lol. I have my doubts that you rewatch it ever, considering you apparently don't even remember what it was about. I remember the general stuff that happened, not all the small details, as in I know the gundam pilots were tricked. Oz took over, Zechs defects eventually. Colony want gundam to go away and want to make peace so they eventually leave to earth and start to question who they are fighting for. White fang is new organization, zechs joins them, so do Dorthy then you get an all out war etc... there are obviously other things like Relena being forced to be the head, lady Une saving Treize from getting killed by barrage I believe and such. I rewatch it every couple of years since I enjoy it but don't necessary remember every small thing that happened. On November 04 2013 02:23 TanKLoveR wrote: Well while it didn't have rants, it's just all the text you were replying to + your replies, if anything the rants are better to "look at" for other people since they are inside spoiler tags. Just didn't feel right quoting that one since it was kinda long. Yeah I never knew about Titan until the show was about to come out and a friend kept talking about it telling me to watch it, he still likes it, then again I started to hate Blizz before he did and he finally came around to that as well  . I really don't think they will stay in high school, seems like their school year is about to end, Haruki already got into college, Setsuna was talking to her parents how next year she'll go away to college as well etc etc, I'll say 10 episodes tops and we're in college with them. Yeah I knew what you meant by dream, but I mean remember at first he had totally given up on the band when everyone quit in episode 1 and he doesn't seem to be the bands #1 fan so idk if his dream is related to the band. Maybe music related yes but the band? idk I really have no idea. + Show Spoiler + Also it was something Haruki's friend had not him.. he didn't seem to recognize it when Touma was waving it around with the teacher, I think if it was his or idk something of his he would have been like O.o when did Lizuka gave her that ? wtf. I thought that might happen but it didn't. I'm glad you watched the whole thing in one sitting lol, hardcore :O! that /whip is totally working . Yes I agree about Touma, that crap with her at the end was like NOOOOOOOO TOUMA WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU D:!. Probably didn't sleep for several days before the concert and passed out when her system felt she stopped pumping adrenaline once she was "done". I don't know about that in the hospital, I think you're getting REALLY ahead of yourself. While yes there's been some moments in the show that show they like each other, I don't think we're in the realm of people like kissing/being overly affectionate towards each other yet. She'll probably go to the hospital but both Setsuna and Haruki will be there, just like they did after her freak out with the teacher in the music room, Haruki wants everyone to feel part of the group and that they're a "unit" not him and Touma and Setsuna on the outside that's what caused toothbrush-gate lol. While yes it is very obvious that Setsuna likes Haruki (Also Touma I mean she worked so hard for his "dream", no one would do that unless they liked someone A LOT), Setsuna worked so hard to recruit Touma for the band because Haruki wanted her there not because she had any particular attachment to the piano playing person she didn't know lol. She got jealous I'll say 90% because of her past history with her friends and what happened there, she didn't want to feel left out of the new group she found, I think if she was perceiving that Touma was stealing Haruki romantically she would have pulled out the claws not just be all emo about it. It's obvious they both like Haruki and Haruki likes Touma because she's so cool and talented (not that Touma thinks she is lol), that part by the train when Touma pulls him off the train was like :O! TOUMA WHAT ARE YOU DOING!? Haruki was like O_O WUT!?. Either way I think the "dream" is probably some sort of song or something and that's why Lizuka gave it to Touma who is very musically talented and all that, she was probably writing some music/working on some arrangements for the event? that's my best guess since like you I don't have much to go by. If I had to "guess" which at this point is pretty difficult, I'll say Touma but I can't say that sure by much since he promised Setsuna that whole I'll never let you go and stop talking to you blah blah thing, I guess we'll find out, this show is going to be long and lots of shit will happen. ya, no worries. Oh, I see about titan. Well, I'm hoping they don't say in high school lol and you make a good point. + Show Spoiler + ya, I was surprised he didn't recognize it as well. It's from a while back(2007). Nah, it's only 5 episodes, not that hardcore Pull back da whip or else >.> Yes, that scene was sad. She obviously overworked herself at the worst time. Wonder how they will react. yes, I probably am but how are they going to build up their relationship? cmon, she has no family or rather one that hasn't seen her in a long time compared to Setsuna. I think Haruki knows that and that will make him make an effort to get closer to comfort her. It's just a guess though and possibly a bit out there. Toothbrush incident was funny. I remember reading the words toothbrush from your post a while back so I noticed lol. It was needed I think, to generate some drama.yes, her history is pretty important and I agree. well, maybe not romantically but everything is heading in that direction so far. ya true true and that part was wtf to me as well. That promise might be a nail in the coffin for Touma although he said it as friends and not lovers. Who knows? I'm really interested to see what directions the show takes  On November 04 2013 04:28 da_head wrote: You think gundam wing is stupid? Jesus you guys really are a bunch of elitist otakus.. this is not gonna end up well for either side XD | ||
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Ecael
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On November 04 2013 04:49 da_head wrote: I just want to clarify that I'm aware that wing is retitled with plot holes and incohesive thematic structures, but you need to view it in the context it's set in and enjoy it for what it is. Don't criticize things just for the sake of it (*cough* most of the people in this thread). You'll live a bitter life otherwise. What's wrong with living a bitter life? And what stops people from enjoying things that they know to be shit? | ||
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Sterlymobile
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Nagisama
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On November 04 2013 04:52 Sterlymobile wrote: So each *name*-monogatari is technically the book/arc of one character in the show? Each monogatari is a story. :D Bakemonogatari | ||
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da_head
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On November 04 2013 04:52 Ecael wrote: What's wrong with living a bitter life? And what stops people from enjoying things that they know to be shit? If you're seriously asking me what's wrong with living a bitter life, I doubt a suitable response exists for you. | ||
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Ecael
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On November 04 2013 04:52 Sterlymobile wrote: So each *name*-monogatari is technically the book/arc of one character in the show? Kinda, after Bake the series started to take that format. While other characters tend to be involved in some way, the story's focus will be on one specific character. Not that it stops Nishio from trolling and for other characters to get the attention of reader/viewers more than the main character. Oh right, also with Second Season the narrators also change to the said character more often than not (4/6 books). On November 04 2013 04:56 Nagisama wrote: Each monogatari is a story. :D Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari had more than one chapter regarding a certain character, ie Hitagi Crab, Nadeko Snake, Tsukihi Phoenix, etc. The others are just one slightly longer story (that may be) about one of the characters. No nise was already completely about the said character far as plot goes. Just that the banter to plot ratio is like 1:1. Bake had one story per char and it was divided into multiple chapters. Post bake each vol is basically devoted to the character. On November 04 2013 04:56 da_head wrote: If you're seriously asking me what's wrong with living a bitter life, I doubt a suitable response exists for you. It was a rhetorical question, since it isn't like you know shit about what actually makes other people bitter to begin with. Even if I dine regularly at Michelin 3 star places, it doesn't stop me from enjoying McD. Knowing that there is a difference between the two doesn't stop people from enjoying a less refined work. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
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Just because people say "If I hate it must be bad" doesn't justify you saying "If I like it it must be good." To put things in your own words, don't criticize an entire thread just for the sake of it. You'll live a bitter life because of it. =/ | ||
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da_head
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On November 04 2013 04:56 Ecael wrote: It was a rhetorical question, since it isn't like you know shit about what actually makes other people bitter to begin with. Even if I dine regularly at Michelin 3 star places, it doesn't stop me from enjoying McD. Knowing that there is a difference between the two doesn't stop people from enjoying a less refined work. Never did i claim that I know what makes other people bitter, and I don't get how your example is even relevant. I didn't say people can't enjoy less refined work, I just said to stop being overly critical. In fact your example supports what I'm saying. On November 04 2013 05:06 Zergneedsfood wrote: da_head, while I understand where you're coming from, calling the entire thread a bunch of "elitist okatus" because one person has stated that they really dislike what you like is just a way of making yourself look really dumb. Just because people say "If I hate it must be bad" doesn't justify you saying "If I like it it must be good." To put things in your own words, don't criticize an entire thread just for the sake of it. You'll live a bitter life because of it. =/ I wasn't calling the entire thread of elitist otakus because of this single post, but rather a year or so of lurking here and just making an observation. I know the truth hurts but it is what it is. | ||
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Slaughter
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Was his back story meant to make him sympathetic? Because I just wanted to punch him in the face by the end of it. Lazy story telling, didn't show any reason why he had to immediately jump to "kill my mentor/mother" while seemingly not exploring any other options when he had plenty of time. Hell he could of did what he ended up doing right after landing and letting her jump out of the cock pit window ffs. Same effect. | ||
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da_head
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On November 04 2013 05:22 Just_a_Moth wrote: Elitist is just what people with bad taste call people with good taste lol. Irony at its finest. | ||
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Ecael
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Also calling people at teamliquid elitists, lol. Please, do you really need to point out the obvious. On November 04 2013 05:17 da_head wrote: Never did i claim that I know what makes other people bitter, and I don't get how your example is even relevant. I didn't say people can't enjoy less refined work, I just said to stop being overly critical. In fact your example supports what I'm saying. No? Being critical and enjoying something can be separate. Being critical is simply being aware of what something is. I can be as critical as I want to be about shit and enjoy it. On November 04 2013 05:22 Slaughter wrote: Annnd Kiritsugu from F/Z continues to be a jackass with stupid justifications. I guess I just can't agree with his philosophy. Was his back story meant to make him sympathetic? Because I just wanted to punch him in the face by the end of it. Lazy story telling, didn't show any reason why he had to immediately jump to "kill my mentor/mother" while seemingly not exploring any other options when he had plenty of time. Hell he could of did what he ended up doing right after landing and letting her jump out of the cock pit window ffs. Same effect. iirc it was assumed that if Natalia were to leave the plane, the infected would be able to get out. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
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Also, I don't know why you get riled up about the thread being elitist when you basically spent the last page talking down on people saying "stop being overly critical because this show is actually like this and if you disagree you'll live a bitter life because you dislike things" which is what I would imagine someone who has a very high opinion of their own tastes might say to someone who dislikes something they like. | ||
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Sentenal
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On November 04 2013 04:49 da_head wrote: I just want to clarify that I'm aware that wing is full of plot holes and incohesive thematic structures, but you need to view it in the context it's set in and enjoy it for what it is. Don't criticize things just for the sake of it. You'll live a bitter life otherwise. Full of plot holes and incohesive thematic structures? So you think Gundam Wing is stupid too? What an elitist. | ||
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On November 04 2013 05:31 Sentenal wrote: Full of plot holes and incohesive thematic structures? So you think Gundam Wing is stupid too? What an elitist. I'd appreciate a little more effort in your trolling attempt. Also, @zergneedsfood: I appreciate your efforts towards having a constructive discussion. I'd be happy to continue this on a later date, as I having things that need attending to at this moment. | ||
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Yorbon
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On November 04 2013 05:17 da_head wrote: Thanks, i rarely post here, but i don't think i ever said something that could be classified as elitist.I wasn't calling the entire thread of elitist otakus because of this single post, but rather a year or so of lurking here and just making an observation. I know the truth hurts but it is what it is. EDIT: hm the quotes are screwing up but w/e I don't think being elitist or not is a useful observation anyway. Opinions come with or without 'explanations'. If an explanation is included, the opinion gains value. An opinion without one is meaningless; it's there to be taken note of, and nothing else, no matter how elitist the opinion. If you were to say the thread is full of meaningless opinions, it would be as untrue as your current statement (because there are some very good posts), but it would be a lot more acceptable, because there is no reference to persons. My posts in this thread are meaningless most of the time. 'XXX is stupid' and 'You are(n't) elitist' are as well. edit: fixed quote edit2: i only read the first comment about gundam wing and the quoted post: this'll probably be seen in my reaction, please be considerate. | ||
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Slaughter
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On November 04 2013 05:25 Ecael wrote: iirc it was assumed that if Natalia were to leave the plane, the infected would be able to get out. + Show Spoiler + Yea I know that supposed to be the assumption but what I was irritated at is that the situation didn't seem to be that dire. Probably because in other media I am sure you could take that exact sequence of events and just change the last 3-4 mins of it and she doesn't have to die. Basically I am saying is that they did a shit job in convincing me that shooting the plane down was the only way. | ||
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