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On November 04 2013 05:56 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 05:51 Slaughter wrote:On November 04 2013 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:Yeah..... + Show Spoiler [f/z] +Honestly Kiritsugu is a decent presentation of a tragic hero. He's an over idealistic guy with some grand vision for the future, headstrong with lots of confidence with a hint of stubbornness, but his fatal flaw is his philosophy that the ends justify the means and it ends up just screwing him over by the end.
I mean you can call Kiritsugu "stupid" or you can not agree with his ideologies, but that's kind of the point of his character. I think the sympathetic aspects of his story is there not for us to go "boo-hoo" but more or less explain a little bit about his thought process. Also, everyone in F/Z is like an imperfect human being and does pretty terrible things for great power. I thought that was supposed to be part of its appeal, that it was a pretty good portrayal of what happened when people with set ideologies, hopes, dreams, aspirations, some terrible others good, clashed. You just get some of the worst out of people. + Show Spoiler +Her smile as the plane was blowing up made it seem to me that she was expecting it, and that all that talk was just a veil for what "had to be done" Yea I am aware of what they are trying to do. It very well could be that all this is coming from not liking this particular type of story where everyone has their hands dirty. Though I guess you could say that Saber represents that? She is opposite to Kiritsugu ideologically. Well, that's basically the root of Saber hate. You can like Kiritsugu, you can like Kotomine, you can even like...um, idk, Caster. But in the end Saber is the only one who proceed to preach her ideologies while never doing a thing. Show nested quote +Does he ever do anything to be part of the "hero" portion of the tragic hero besides vague references to what he wants to do. Well it is Urobuchi, who has a fairly narrow take on the type, so I'll leave you to watch it and decide yourself on the matter.
I think Saber doesn't do anything because her whole worldview was challenged and she ended up questioning herself. Rider's words seemed to have gotten to her quite a bit. Its hard to do anything when your in the midst of searching for answers about yourself.
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On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like.
Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno.
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On November 04 2013 06:02 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 05:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 05:51 Slaughter wrote:On November 04 2013 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:Yeah..... + Show Spoiler [f/z] +Honestly Kiritsugu is a decent presentation of a tragic hero. He's an over idealistic guy with some grand vision for the future, headstrong with lots of confidence with a hint of stubbornness, but his fatal flaw is his philosophy that the ends justify the means and it ends up just screwing him over by the end.
I mean you can call Kiritsugu "stupid" or you can not agree with his ideologies, but that's kind of the point of his character. I think the sympathetic aspects of his story is there not for us to go "boo-hoo" but more or less explain a little bit about his thought process. Also, everyone in F/Z is like an imperfect human being and does pretty terrible things for great power. I thought that was supposed to be part of its appeal, that it was a pretty good portrayal of what happened when people with set ideologies, hopes, dreams, aspirations, some terrible others good, clashed. You just get some of the worst out of people. + Show Spoiler +Her smile as the plane was blowing up made it seem to me that she was expecting it, and that all that talk was just a veil for what "had to be done" Yea I am aware of what they are trying to do. It very well could be that all this is coming from not liking this particular type of story where everyone has their hands dirty. Though I guess you could say that Saber represents that? She is opposite to Kiritsugu ideologically. + Show Spoiler +I think her smile is more or less recognizing what Kiritsugu is doing. There's not that much else to it. I guess if you don't like people getting their hands dirty in a story.....yeah I guess f/z might not necessarily appeal lol. Lots of people in this anime are just straight up dicks. Does he ever do anything to be part of the "hero" portion of the tragic hero besides vague references to what he wants to do. I feel like that's kind of what's interesting about it. It's this paradox with he's trying to be a hero but you're witnessing all these morally questionable choices he makes. People can get their hands dirty but still in the end come clean. Its fine when characters are like that but when everyone is like him or just straight up dicks then its kinda eh for me. I still enjoy it but I guess I am like the only person who likes Saber? Saber + Rider only characters I like currently.
I liked Saber, Rider, and Kotomine. Not a fan of Kiritsugu, although hes okay if I just think of him as a vessel to drive the story.
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On November 04 2013 06:12 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 05:56 Ecael wrote:On November 04 2013 05:51 Slaughter wrote:On November 04 2013 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:Yeah..... + Show Spoiler [f/z] +Honestly Kiritsugu is a decent presentation of a tragic hero. He's an over idealistic guy with some grand vision for the future, headstrong with lots of confidence with a hint of stubbornness, but his fatal flaw is his philosophy that the ends justify the means and it ends up just screwing him over by the end.
I mean you can call Kiritsugu "stupid" or you can not agree with his ideologies, but that's kind of the point of his character. I think the sympathetic aspects of his story is there not for us to go "boo-hoo" but more or less explain a little bit about his thought process. Also, everyone in F/Z is like an imperfect human being and does pretty terrible things for great power. I thought that was supposed to be part of its appeal, that it was a pretty good portrayal of what happened when people with set ideologies, hopes, dreams, aspirations, some terrible others good, clashed. You just get some of the worst out of people. + Show Spoiler +Her smile as the plane was blowing up made it seem to me that she was expecting it, and that all that talk was just a veil for what "had to be done" Yea I am aware of what they are trying to do. It very well could be that all this is coming from not liking this particular type of story where everyone has their hands dirty. Though I guess you could say that Saber represents that? She is opposite to Kiritsugu ideologically. Well, that's basically the root of Saber hate. You can like Kiritsugu, you can like Kotomine, you can even like...um, idk, Caster. But in the end Saber is the only one who proceed to preach her ideologies while never doing a thing. Does he ever do anything to be part of the "hero" portion of the tragic hero besides vague references to what he wants to do. Well it is Urobuchi, who has a fairly narrow take on the type, so I'll leave you to watch it and decide yourself on the matter. I think Saber doesn't do anything because her whole worldview was challenged and she ended up questioning herself. Rider's words seemed to have gotten to her quite a bit. Its hard to do anything when your in the midst of searching for answers about yourself.
Perhaps, I don't think it is an issue for her to waver. But not having the conviction to stand for something while trying to sound morally superior and make a fuss of everything...eh.
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On November 04 2013 06:23 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like. Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno.
I don't even remember why you had such an awful standard like this. I just know it constantly bothers me every time you say something. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the "I want shit to jack off to Tier."
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On November 04 2013 05:24 da_head wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 05:22 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Elitist is just what people with bad taste call people with good taste lol. Irony at its finest.
Just sayin I was joking, that's why I added the 'lol'.Probably should have been more explicit though cause it's the internet.
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On November 04 2013 06:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 06:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like. Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno. I don't even remember why you had such an awful standard like this. I just know it constantly bothers me every time you say something. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the "I want shit to jack off to Tier."
Is there a standard to having a standard for watching anime?
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
I marathoned Angel Beats last night.
It was a'ight.
Kitaeri's character was fun, Kanade was cute, everyone else was incredibly mediocre. Ending sucked, per usual.
Music was good though.
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On November 04 2013 06:53 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 06:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like. Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno. I don't even remember why you had such an awful standard like this. I just know it constantly bothers me every time you say something. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the "I want shit to jack off to Tier." Is there a standard to having a standard for watching anime?
No, but I can think of some standards that are really weird, restrictive, and straight up nonsensical. From my perspective when I see the anime you gush about, perhaps it makes no difference whether you watch something before 2008 or not, but as someone who loves a lot of pre-2008 anime (and soon you will no longer be allowed to watch 2008 anime based on your standard) it just doesn't register why you would arbitrarily state that any "old" anime (mfw 5 years is old) is not worth your time.
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On November 04 2013 07:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 06:53 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 06:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like. Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno. I don't even remember why you had such an awful standard like this. I just know it constantly bothers me every time you say something. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the "I want shit to jack off to Tier." Is there a standard to having a standard for watching anime? No, but I can think of some standards that are really weird, restrictive, and straight up nonsensical. From my perspective when I see the anime you gush about, perhaps it makes no difference whether you watch something before 2008 or not, but as someone who loves a lot of pre-2008 anime (and soon you will no longer be allowed to watch 2008 anime based on your standard) it just doesn't register why you would arbitrarily state that any "old" anime (mfw 5 years is old) is not worth your time.
Well, to clear things up. If I can find old anime with the same animation quality that we see today. Then I would have no problem watching them.
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I went to Youmacon saturday. It was packed, I couldn't get into almost any workshops or panels, and everyone was dressed as Survey Corps. So, it mostly sucked. Met some okay people, but decided to just go to the casino by the end of the night. Too old and cranky.
edit: actually, the smash bros tournaments were pretty cool
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On November 04 2013 06:26 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 06:12 Slaughter wrote:On November 04 2013 05:56 Ecael wrote:On November 04 2013 05:51 Slaughter wrote:On November 04 2013 05:45 Zergneedsfood wrote:Yeah..... + Show Spoiler [f/z] +Honestly Kiritsugu is a decent presentation of a tragic hero. He's an over idealistic guy with some grand vision for the future, headstrong with lots of confidence with a hint of stubbornness, but his fatal flaw is his philosophy that the ends justify the means and it ends up just screwing him over by the end.
I mean you can call Kiritsugu "stupid" or you can not agree with his ideologies, but that's kind of the point of his character. I think the sympathetic aspects of his story is there not for us to go "boo-hoo" but more or less explain a little bit about his thought process. Also, everyone in F/Z is like an imperfect human being and does pretty terrible things for great power. I thought that was supposed to be part of its appeal, that it was a pretty good portrayal of what happened when people with set ideologies, hopes, dreams, aspirations, some terrible others good, clashed. You just get some of the worst out of people. + Show Spoiler +Her smile as the plane was blowing up made it seem to me that she was expecting it, and that all that talk was just a veil for what "had to be done" Yea I am aware of what they are trying to do. It very well could be that all this is coming from not liking this particular type of story where everyone has their hands dirty. Though I guess you could say that Saber represents that? She is opposite to Kiritsugu ideologically. Well, that's basically the root of Saber hate. You can like Kiritsugu, you can like Kotomine, you can even like...um, idk, Caster. But in the end Saber is the only one who proceed to preach her ideologies while never doing a thing. Does he ever do anything to be part of the "hero" portion of the tragic hero besides vague references to what he wants to do. Well it is Urobuchi, who has a fairly narrow take on the type, so I'll leave you to watch it and decide yourself on the matter. I think Saber doesn't do anything because her whole worldview was challenged and she ended up questioning herself. Rider's words seemed to have gotten to her quite a bit. Its hard to do anything when your in the midst of searching for answers about yourself. Perhaps, I don't think it is an issue for her to waver. But not having the conviction to stand for something while trying to sound morally superior and make a fuss of everything...eh.
Saber's ideology is a lot like Shiro's from FSN, and both have similar issues of viewer resonance. Their idea of "standing for their beliefs" is to die a martyr...not die for your cause, mind you, but to die a martyr.
As for her conflict with Kiritsugu, it's basically the same as Lancer and Kayneth. They both have their knightly code, and two masters who really don't give a damn about honour, but code basically says your Lord first and foremost. Hence the griping about dishonourable action, even if they both still follow along.
On November 04 2013 07:23 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 07:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:53 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 06:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like. Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno. I don't even remember why you had such an awful standard like this. I just know it constantly bothers me every time you say something. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the "I want shit to jack off to Tier." Is there a standard to having a standard for watching anime? No, but I can think of some standards that are really weird, restrictive, and straight up nonsensical. From my perspective when I see the anime you gush about, perhaps it makes no difference whether you watch something before 2008 or not, but as someone who loves a lot of pre-2008 anime (and soon you will no longer be allowed to watch 2008 anime based on your standard) it just doesn't register why you would arbitrarily state that any "old" anime (mfw 5 years is old) is not worth your time. Well, to clear things up. If I can find old anime with the same animation quality that we see today. Then I would have no problem watching them.
Well, 5 years is a rather arbitrary line for animation quality. It's not at the cut-off between hand-drawn and digital animation, and it's not even at the point where artists got used to digital animation.
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On November 04 2013 07:23 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 07:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:53 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 06:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like. Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno. I don't even remember why you had such an awful standard like this. I just know it constantly bothers me every time you say something. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the "I want shit to jack off to Tier." Is there a standard to having a standard for watching anime? No, but I can think of some standards that are really weird, restrictive, and straight up nonsensical. From my perspective when I see the anime you gush about, perhaps it makes no difference whether you watch something before 2008 or not, but as someone who loves a lot of pre-2008 anime (and soon you will no longer be allowed to watch 2008 anime based on your standard) it just doesn't register why you would arbitrarily state that any "old" anime (mfw 5 years is old) is not worth your time. Well, to clear things up. If I can find old anime with the same animation quality that we see today. Then I would have no problem watching them.
What wolfinthesheep said. Besides a lot of animation these days can be really lazy and there are quite a few older anime with great animation quality. Its not decided by date created though technology definitely plays a role.
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He doesn't actually care about animation, he cares about things like character design and stuff like that.
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As long as things interest me, i don't care about age. (although there is a correlation, i don't think age alone would justify shooting it down)
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On November 04 2013 07:59 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 07:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 07:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:53 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 06:27 Zergneedsfood wrote:On November 04 2013 06:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On November 04 2013 05:41 Slaughter wrote:
Being an elitist would suggest that the people here would be "above" watching certain shows and refuse to watch them because of their "low quality". I find the opposite here for the most part. People may call things shit but they still have completed at least some of the show in question so they can form an opinion. Hell if you trash on something without having seen it you will get called out for it.
TLADT isn't really elitist, just really blunt about reporting what they like and don't like. Im very elitist about my anime: Anything older than 5 years is no beuno. I don't even remember why you had such an awful standard like this. I just know it constantly bothers me every time you say something. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the "I want shit to jack off to Tier." Is there a standard to having a standard for watching anime? No, but I can think of some standards that are really weird, restrictive, and straight up nonsensical. From my perspective when I see the anime you gush about, perhaps it makes no difference whether you watch something before 2008 or not, but as someone who loves a lot of pre-2008 anime (and soon you will no longer be allowed to watch 2008 anime based on your standard) it just doesn't register why you would arbitrarily state that any "old" anime (mfw 5 years is old) is not worth your time. Well, to clear things up. If I can find old anime with the same animation quality that we see today. Then I would have no problem watching them. What wolfinthesheep said. Besides a lot of animation these days can be really lazy and there are quite a few older anime with great animation quality. Its not decided by date created though technology definitely plays a role.
I think hes mixing up chara design with animation quality.. I'd imagine based on the stuff he gushes about
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Does anyone else use the PS3 Media Server? If so what settings do you run it at/what kind of computer are you using. For some reason I cannot get my shit to stop stuttering now and it's really annoying me.
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On November 04 2013 09:16 tonight wrote:
Does anyone else use the PS3 Media Server? If so what settings do you run it at/what kind of computer are you using. For some reason I cannot get my shit to stop stuttering now and it's really annoying me.
Wireless or wired?
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The end of texhnolyze was quite.. unsettling
+ Show Spoiler +the way onishi (re)met his secretary (?) just before she died really hurt.
Im sad right now.
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On November 04 2013 10:18 Yorbon wrote:
The end of texhnolyze was quite.. unsettling
the way onishi (re)met his secretary (?) just before she died really hurt. The final scene didn't leave me untouched as well.
Im sad right now.
Dude I was like.....are you serious....whyyyyy ;;
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