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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Well here's what I watched and my impressions:
B Gata H Kei - Had some good stuff, but the animation was just too lazily done to interest me.
kiss x sis - Lol. No.
Heroman - Bones, I am disappoint.
Kaichou wa Maid-sama! - *Shrug* better than the others. Characters are crap and a bunch of cliches. But the production quality is good so that makes up for it.. kind of...
Waiting on Angel Beats! and Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou. Although I did watch Angel Beats w/o subs, and from what I could pick out... Why was the show both serious and funny within a 5 minute interval?
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I am surprise no one talked about Seikon no Qwaser yet.
My opinion of the anime:
Censored version: okay, a bit cheesy.
Uncensored version: WTF is going on!!!
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Dunno why Myst doesn't like Index. I thought it was a good series. Finished Railgun too, though I'd rate index higher.
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Index sucked even for me, who quite likes the light novels, and I am not even just going to say "The original is better". Honestly, the series is slow early on and doesn't pick up for a while.
Mystlord, pretty much. I am rather interested by the BGM use that Maeda Jun talked about, it does feel somewhat different from other animes would do it. This episode really to me just means "Need more Angel speaking scenes" though 
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Touma pwning people in hilarious ways and Index's antics and other shenanigans were executed well enough to make the pacing in Index pretty good IMO, but maybe that's not what a lot of people wanna see. Most people I've asked, however, liked Railgun better because it's more moe.
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I liked Index, but I think it tried to take itself too seriously (though I did watch Railgun first). I enjoyed seeing Touma, and I could live with the odd pacing of the series. Railgun seemed a bit more enjoyable because it was lighthearted and had an easier pacing with more interesting characters.
Oh, and for those who haven't seen it yet, go see the new Eden of the East movie. It's pretty damn good imo.
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Canada8031 Posts
Mazui's released their Angel Beats sub. Downloading now.
Just finished Hisui's route in Tsukihime. Awesome twist, but god, this is seriously messed up.
Why is it that Akiha never gets a happy end? D:
And then the ending music played.
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On April 03 2010 12:44 reincremate wrote:
Touma pwning people in hilarious ways and Index's antics and other shenanigans were executed well enough to make the pacing in Index pretty good IMO, but maybe that's not what a lot of people wanna see. Most people I've asked, however, liked Railgun better because it's more moe.
Index (the character) was annoying. Go make your own goddamn food. From what I've seen, most people dislike Index (the series) for the pacing and because of Touma's cheesy speeches. I would've liked Railgun better because biribiri is awesome, but then they gave me half a season of filler.
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Touma is alright, honestly I had a lot of issues with his character for the most part till around vol 9 or so, when he did some neat things in the novels. Index's pacing sucked horribly though. You don't quite feel it in like the first...um, 12 or so episodes, but the second 12 was horrible. I didn't start reading the novels till later on into the series and felt that pacing sucked even before I read, especially the last arc with Kazakiri Kyouka. They just condensed a vol's worth of talking into half a vol's worth of actions, the novels tend to have a good balance, the anime turned into Touma lecturing people.
How does he pwn people in hilarious ways anyway, he punches them, invariably, except for the arc with Himegami.
Railgun was more enjoyable because it was an honest moe show that just focuses on Misaka, like the show is supposed to. She also does far less talking and more just plain snapping, something Touma doesn't do nearly often enough. And one more thing, there was no Index, that makes Railgun infinitely better.
On April 03 2010 12:47 Spazer wrote:
Mazui's released their Angel Beats sub. Downloading now.
Just finished Hisui's route in Tsukihime. Awesome twist, but god, this is seriously messed up.
And why is it that Akiha never gets a happy end? D:
Which one? One with Shiki killing chemicals?
Nasu never gave a convincing explanation as to why Ryougi Shiki is closer to [ ] but Tohno Shiki can magically kill chemicals...well she killed disease once too though.
Actually, on that note, Himawari Beam~! (If anyone other than Southlight knows I'd be amazed)
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Canada8031 Posts
On April 03 2010 12:51 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 12:47 Spazer wrote:
Mazui's released their Angel Beats sub. Downloading now.
Just finished Hisui's route in Tsukihime. Awesome twist, but god, this is seriously messed up.
And why is it that Akiha never gets a happy end? D: Which one? One with Shiki killing chemicals? Nasu never gave a convincing explanation as to why Ryougi Shiki is closer to [ ] but Tohno Shiki can magically kill chemicals...well she killed disease once too though.
Haha, what? Shiki kills chemicals? I haven't seen that, so I guess that's in the good end. Anyway, Kohaku's scary now. Geez.
Wasn't the explanation something like Ryougi Shiki is Akasha, but Akasha's just her third personality? If memory serves, this means she can create/destroy anything, but just chooses not to or something. I dunno. Nasuverse is confusing.
Goddamn it Mazui. I get a third of the way downloading episode one, then you release revision 2. -_-
Edit: How on earth did Coalguys make a 100MB mkv for Angel Beats? Is their resolution crappy or something?
Edit 2: Hey cool, we're over 5000 posts.
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I went through index just to see accelerator rape shit. Railgun would have been great if they threw in that arc for the second half instead of the filler
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Wait, Tohno Shiki did that?
My memories of Hisui arc are less than stellar. I remember him killing Yumizuka's vampire blood, but that's it.
OOOOH yeah! har har
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I also don't see Tohno Shiki destroying an esper-ish attack or killing phantoms/ghosts. So Ryougi's eyes are definitely more advanced. She sees colors! She doesn't see dots though... so that's weird.
I actually feel that Heroman is holding up pretty well. I guess I let my suspension of disbelief stretch a little farther than conventional anime, since this is heavily influenced by western comics.
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Nah, not that part. Just the pure comparison between the two's Mystic Eyes. Tohno Shiki killed buildings and other inanimate objects, Ryougi didn't quite do that, though she did kill off a disease (or rather, a condition) with Fujinon. Nasu was never quite clear about what exactly got killed there though. Basically, Tohno sees lines and dots, and Ryougi just lines. Movies rather changed that a little in the fighting scenes where you see her stabbing at some "spots", but the novel's descriptions only had her cutting away at lines.
Nasu suggested that as a + Show Spoiler [Tsukihime] + Tohno Shiki's eyes have an ability to pick out critical spots, which Ryougi can't do. The thing with inanimate objects, as seen with Araya's barriers, was probably a matter of concentration, since Ryougi apparently controls her eyes just mentally. But yeah...Ryougi was supposed to be a better user for the eye, somehow feels weird that Tohno's seems to kind of "see" more.
Also, Kohaku isn't scary. She is awesome. Easily my favorite character in the Tsukihime universe, and if not for Ryougi, the whole Nasuverse.
100mb is probably that ultra early 700somethingx468 rip.
Bearbuddy, read this. + Show Spoiler +The one where he killed off the poison in Kohaku's body, but she loses her memory and changes her name to Nanaya in the end, wasn't it one of the Hisui routes?
I also don't see Tohno Shiki destroying an esper-ish attack or killing phantoms/ghosts.
Well, he just never encountered any really...
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Index has horrible characters and an extremely confusing and broken storyline.
Railgun has great characters and a boring and filler filled storyline.
Railgun wins out because you see TONS more depth in the characters. I've never seen more sides to Touma than just "fukouda". Index is also completely one dimensional.
If the characters in Index wasn't completely one dimensional throughout the entire show, I'd be happier with it. Unfortunately, the plot in both shows just made me dislike both.
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On April 03 2010 13:19 Mystlord wrote:
Index has horrible characters and an extremely confusing and broken storyline.
Railgun has great characters and a boring and filler filled storyline.
Railgun wins out because you see TONS more depth in the characters. I've never seen more sides to Touma than just "fukouda". Index is also completely one dimensional.
If the characters in Index wasn't completely one dimensional throughout the entire show, I'd be happier with it. Unfortunately, the plot in both shows just made me dislike both.
Accelerator? Touma is alright, but in the anime and early on in the novels he definitely feels flat. Depth wise Himegami somehow had more than him for a while
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I disliked Touma because he talked wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much. I didn't mind Index, it was okay but nothing to jump out of my seat for. Railgun on the other hand, I thought it was fantastic, even the filler episodes. Misaka is a thousand times better of a main character than Touma.
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Canada8031 Posts
I think BT's translation says that Ryougi can see points, but I could be mistaken. Ryougi can kill concepts (well, if you consider Fujino's telekinesis a concept rather than something physical. It doesn't really fit under either category), so in theory, she should be able to kill inanimate objects since inanimate objects would be closer to the human perception of death than concepts.
Tohno's eye power seems to depend on how much he's used them. The more he sees death, the easier it is for him to see it in other things. So really, if he just used his eyes continuously for a long period of time, they'd probably be on par with Ryougi's. The thing is, the strain would probably kill him long before then.
I forgot to mention how utterly ridiculous the seventh holy scripture is in my last post.
Edit: I thought Accelerator was a terrible villain. He was just kinda boring and flat.
+ Show Spoiler [anime spoilers] +He also used his power pretty stupidly (arguably it was plot-induced stupidity) in that fight against Touma. If there's one redeeming thing about Accelerator's terrible early character design, it's that it makes him a pretty decent anti-hero once he gets developed a little.
+ Show Spoiler [post anime spoilers] +Also, awakened form is badass.
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On April 03 2010 13:37 Spazer wrote:
I think BT's translation says that Ryougi can see points, but I could be mistaken. Ryougi can kill concepts (well, if you consider Fujino's telekinesis a concept rather than something physical. It doesn't really fit under either category), so in theory, she should be able to kill inanimate objects since inanimate objects would be closer to the human perception of death than concepts.
Tohno's eye power seems to depend on how much he's used them. The more he sees death, the easier it is for him to see it in other things. So really, if he just used his eyes continuously for a long period of time, they'd probably be on par with Ryougi's. The thing is, the strain would probably kill him long before then.
I forgot to mention how utterly ridiculous the seventh holy scripture is in my last post.
It's so freaking awesome. Nothing is more awesome then executing Ciel's arc drive in Melty Blood.
Here's my question. Nanaya Shiki is suppose Shiki at his strongest form. So does that mean his eyes are mature when he becomes Nanaya? But from the fight with Nero, it seems that he does not develop the same perception as that of Ryougi.
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Yawn, Seven, that stupid horse, just give her carrots and you are fine. She runs away from Ciel all the time anyway. After seeing MB:AA stuff and Shiki, I am convinced she is the best, ever. No fanboyism here, nope
If BT's translations say that, BT's translations are wrong. Won't be the first time. Though I'll sooner blame the Chinese versions, always quick to blame my fellow Chinese, yes. You'll need to remember though, concepts is a weird thing in Nasuverse. Without going too much into it, we can just say that as long as something exists, Ryougi can do something about it. Sans it being some broken being like Ciel route's Arcueid However, with physical structures, whereas Tohno Shiki just random stabs a spot and kills a building, we had Tohko reminding Araya that a physical prison is a much better way to trap Shiki, we have her having troubles with her bare hand against the zombie in chapter 4, etc. I suppose we can use the whole critical point thing to explain away that, but when it is an entire building, you can't help but wonder how the hell Tohno Shiki does it without it being conceptually killing the building.
Tohno's eyes probaby would never match Shiki's, for one, he has very little control over it.
As for Accelerator, you see him and know they want him for anti-hero lol. + Show Spoiler [light novel] +If you mean the black wings with awakened form, wait till vol 19 and 20
Here's my question. Nanaya Shiki is suppose Shiki at his strongest form. So does that mean his eyes are mature when he becomes Nanaya? But from the fight with Nero, it seems that he does not develop the same perception as that of Ryougi.
He is never quite Nanaya Shiki though, that and Nanaya is Shiki at his strongest for physical reasons, not for the eyes, so no impact really.
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Canada8031 Posts
On April 03 2010 13:44 bearbuddy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 13:37 Spazer wrote:
I think BT's translation says that Ryougi can see points, but I could be mistaken. Ryougi can kill concepts (well, if you consider Fujino's telekinesis a concept rather than something physical. It doesn't really fit under either category), so in theory, she should be able to kill inanimate objects since inanimate objects would be closer to the human perception of death than concepts.
Tohno's eye power seems to depend on how much he's used them. The more he sees death, the easier it is for him to see it in other things. So really, if he just used his eyes continuously for a long period of time, they'd probably be on par with Ryougi's. The thing is, the strain would probably kill him long before then.
I forgot to mention how utterly ridiculous the seventh holy scripture is in my last post. It's so freaking awesome. Nothing is more awesome then executing Ciel's arc drive in Melty Blood. Here's my question. Nanaya Shiki is suppose Shiki at his strongest form. So does that mean his eyes are mature when he becomes Nanaya? But from the fight with Nero, it seems that he does not develop the same perception as that of Ryougi.
+ Show Spoiler +The Nanaya bloodline has nothing to do with his eyes - after all, the rest of his family didn't have the eyes. All his blood does is give him killer instinct (eg. better reflexes, faster movement, etc). That Tohno has the mystic eyes of death perception is merely a bonus that helps make him a better killer.
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What are we basing the Nanaya thing on? If it is from Melty Blood, it was explained there that it was the years of training and physical ability that he is supposed to have as Satsujinshiki made the main difference, but yeah, the eyes from the Nanaya lineage is something else entirely that just seems to work with the mystic eyes.
I like how we spammed nearly a page so fast
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