Anime Discussion Thread - Page 2303

On September 02 2012 22:34 ragz_gt wrote:
Is it me or Elizabeth's bust size looks much bigger than Mary's??! WTF??!

On September 03 2012 02:10 Ecael wrote:

Cowtits everywhere, too hard to distinguish at this point.

Rereading that part of vol 2, they actually didn't cut that many lines from Segundo, but they cutted all the lines from his subordinates that makes his lines manly tears. Sunrise you fucking blow.

On September 03 2012 01:37 solidbebe wrote:

To be fair the mc does end up getting beat up a lot, unless he sees innocent little middle school girls, he likes to beat those up lol.

On September 03 2012 01:44 OutlaW- wrote:
araragi is great; i wish more mcs were like him

On September 03 2012 02:45 Sentenal wrote:

I asked Uta this, but out of curiosity, why do you blame the studio itself for your problems with Horizon, rather than the staff? Seems like most of your issues about pacing and things getting cut out would be due to the director, rather than the studio that just happens to produce it.

On September 03 2012 01:37 solidbebe wrote:

To be fair the mc does end up getting beat up a lot, unless he sees innocent little middle school girls, he likes to beat those up lol.

On September 03 2012 03:25 Ecael wrote:

Because the studio itself has never worked out a good talking anime when they can't just copy paste everything from the source? It just isn't something that Sunrise has been known to do. I like my Gundams, but Gundam doesn't have source materials that spend endless pages on talking, rather it demonstrates a point through other means. Most of the important things in Horizon lies in talking and interpreting what people say and do, but the style is such that you can't expect it to work from just copy paste. And as to be expected, they package the show like a gakuenmono-esque shounen action when it is a full fledged historical fiction simply because that's what you'd get when you 1, cut lines to make time fit, 2, can't properly interpret the source material and place it into anime form proper.

So a question back to you, is there a group of staff from Sunrise that you'd want to see do Bakemonogatari and Kino no Tabi?

Elementary school, though if you count the time between past and now she is well into college/graduated from college age wise.

On September 03 2012 03:56 Sentenal wrote:
No, it is dialogue-heavy show compared to another anime in general. Not simply Sunrise shows. You would have to be retarded to think otherwise. Also Uta, you are really good at cherry-picking stuff out of discussions and ignoring points.

On September 03 2012 03:45 Sentenal wrote:

Is Crest and Banner of the Stars not a good talking anime? Anyway, staff like directors and stuff move inter-changeably through various different studios, so I still think its unfair to blame the studio as a whole for a single director's work there, especially considering Sunrise's massive size that dwarfs most other studios. I guess if your problem with Sunrise adapting Horizon is the the staff they actually chose to do it, I can understand that complaint, but alot of the times it sounds like simply blaming the studio itself for the work of those they chose, when there are tons and tons of different production staff within, which is kinda unfair imo. Not sure if I'm making sense.

To answer your question, I can't really think of any staff at Sunrise I'd want to see do Bake. But... You know my thoughts on Bake, lol. I didn't even like Shaft doing Bake. But I know that Sunrise did Seikai good, and that show has massive amounts of dialogue, so maybe the staff that did that could handle Horizon?

On September 03 2012 04:16 Ecael wrote:

Note how I was specific about how they can't do it when they can't copy and paste the source material. Since you've never seen Seikai's source, you'll just have to take my word for it. They C&P'd it and the source just requires minimal effort to animate well.

Seikai is pretty dialogue heavy in general, but in comparison to Horizon lol, it doesn't even compare. All of Seikai stuff out so far are about as long as one vol of Horizon.

On September 03 2012 02:06 Maxie wrote:
Oh God I love fairies.

On September 03 2012 04:27 ragz_gt wrote:


Too much information

On September 03 2012 04:24 Sentenal wrote:

Alright, I'll take your word on it on Seikai. I still don't see Horizon being rushed the way it is as being the fault of the studio itself, rather than being the fault of the staff chosen to do the animation. If its the studio itself, its sound as if you are saying there is some standard at Sunrise that says "dialogue must be cut for the sake of time!" etc etc.


As far as how directors and such move around, they do. The guy directing Horizon is Ono Manabu, right? Prior to Horizon he directed Saki with Gonzo, and A-Channel with Aniplex. Is it Sunrises' fault that they picked this guy to direct it? Yeah, but beyond the actual selection of this dude to direct it, don't you think that more blame for how Horizon has been handled should be given to him, rather than blanket dumping it on the entire studio?

On September 03 2012 04:33 Ecael wrote:

So an organization is free of blame for the employee they choose to hire? I like that logic.

On September 03 2012 04:35 Sentenal wrote:

That's not what I said, and you can even see in that post you quoted they aren't free of blame. I'm saying there should be shared blame, while all of your complaints is practically excusing the employee (the staff they hired in this case) for their work.

On September 03 2012 04:38 Ecael wrote:

The employees also share blame in that they are hired by Sunrise and turned the project into fail, happy? I mean, I pretty much hate on the entire Horizon project, what more do you want. Specifically calling out staff names and going omg h4teh4te?

On September 03 2012 04:39 Sentenal wrote:

Blaming the entire company of stuff you don't like in Horizon is like blaming the studio doing Gundam Unicorn or Age for stuff going bad in Horizon. Thus why I'm like "wtf why are you blaming the entire company".

On September 03 2012 04:50 Ecael wrote:

Because the entire company sucks and hasn't really managed to produce anything good that isn't called Gundam? I can respect Gundam, I can't respect anything else they do really, good thing they don't do anything else in particular nowadays.

Horizon is a case of horrible project management from Sunrise. I don't know what makes them think that it would be a good idea to do it as one cour show, but they did it anyway. Honestly, if anything, their success w/ Gundam should be used to bitch even more about them. You are doing multiple movie level works in Unicorn, you are doing a ummm...4? cour show in Age. If you are financially limited by that, why do Horizon? If you aren't used to doing shows like Horizon, why pick it up? I might not like the shit that kyoani has been pumping out lately, but I can respect how they refuse to do FMP and LB in order to keep a level of quality for the things that they do animate. You pick what you can do and put the money and effort into it. If you fail to do that, then as an organization you have failed.