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AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
December 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#34281
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
December 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#34282
On December 23 2011 23:44 tonight wrote:
Milkis has no empathy. Hates all emotion driven shows. It's quite obvious he would like mecha seeing as he is a robot. Robot Milkis.


I love hotblooded mecha stuff. whooo!

On December 24 2011 00:37 AwayFromLife wrote:
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On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:
hi what are some good series

i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish.

here's my MAL

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

if you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great

thanks

Milkis, I love your work, but man, your taste in anime is just, like, fucked right the hell up.

Samurai Champloo a 5? FMP is a good show, but the original and Fumoffu above anything by Gainax? DRRR only a 4?

And holy fuck look how low you rated the Gundam shows.

I can't understand how you rate things like this. I know different people have different tastes and stuff like that, but damn, it's like you just decided to randomly assign numbers to everything. I think your rating ranges are just messed up, like 10 means perfect, 7 means good, 5 means ok and 1 means absolute shit. Almost none of the shows you have on there rate below a 5, and most above that.


tbh if i had to re-rate it now champloo would be way below a 5.

i just think a lot of series i watched is "okay" at best and not much past that hahaha. i can justify nearly every vote i have.

Also DRRR is an abomination. What a terrible series. Why did I give it a 4? Should have gave it a lower score. Must have been biased since I rated that and a few others right after I watched it.

Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
December 23 2011 15:47 GMT
#34283
On December 23 2011 20:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On December 23 2011 19:12 DarthXX wrote:
On December 23 2011 17:23 Milkis wrote:

I give 1s and 2s because people often promise me things get better so i watch it anyway. in the case of KGNE it was such a trainwreck that i just decided to just finish it. for something like AIR and Kanon it was because i was young and naive and people convinced me it gets better and itll move me emotionally. Like hell it did. One Piece and Hajime no Ippo does a far better job moving me emotionally >

i think i rate a bit harshly though, 5s mean i like the series but i can't objectively think that it was "good" compared to waht's out there and it was only average compared to what i had watched.


In that case be ready to be disappointed by steins;gate, overrated to the max.

I'll be serious now, you should watch Hanasaku Iroha, easily the best anime of 2011


Naw, I don't think so. Even if it's overrated, I think it's worth your time to watch. It starts off REALLY slow, but the last half of the season is what makes or breaks the show for people.

Hanasaku Iroha was a decent show but it fell off hard in the middle before picking it up decently in the end.

I'd also like to note that if you want to try something emotional, try Anohana.

Uhhh....it looks like you also liked Lain....try Texhnolyze. Made by the same staff and it's really good.

Edit: This recommendation is coming out of nowhere, but I think you might like Katanagatari. I also see you haven't watched Welcome to the NHK. I'd recommend that too.


Yeah, I'm not out there looking for 7s~8s because in my world they're quite rare. A 5 is watchable and entertaining enough. The concept for S;G seems wacky enough to try (in fact: downloading it now)

I'll also put the other stuff you recommended in the list
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 23 2011 15:50 GMT
#34284
On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 15:50:43
December 23 2011 15:50 GMT
#34285
On December 24 2011 00:47 Milkis wrote:
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On December 23 2011 20:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 23 2011 19:12 DarthXX wrote:
On December 23 2011 17:23 Milkis wrote:

I give 1s and 2s because people often promise me things get better so i watch it anyway. in the case of KGNE it was such a trainwreck that i just decided to just finish it. for something like AIR and Kanon it was because i was young and naive and people convinced me it gets better and itll move me emotionally. Like hell it did. One Piece and Hajime no Ippo does a far better job moving me emotionally >

i think i rate a bit harshly though, 5s mean i like the series but i can't objectively think that it was "good" compared to waht's out there and it was only average compared to what i had watched.


In that case be ready to be disappointed by steins;gate, overrated to the max.

I'll be serious now, you should watch Hanasaku Iroha, easily the best anime of 2011


Naw, I don't think so. Even if it's overrated, I think it's worth your time to watch. It starts off REALLY slow, but the last half of the season is what makes or breaks the show for people.

Hanasaku Iroha was a decent show but it fell off hard in the middle before picking it up decently in the end.

I'd also like to note that if you want to try something emotional, try Anohana.

Uhhh....it looks like you also liked Lain....try Texhnolyze. Made by the same staff and it's really good.

Edit: This recommendation is coming out of nowhere, but I think you might like Katanagatari. I also see you haven't watched Welcome to the NHK. I'd recommend that too.


Yeah, I'm not out there looking for 7s~8s because in my world they're quite rare. A 5 is watchable and entertaining enough. The concept for S;G seems wacky enough to try (in fact: downloading it now)

I'll also put the other stuff you recommended in the list


Well, your taste is a lot different from mine so I'm curious how you'll like Katanagatari and NHK. I'm pretty sure Texhnolyze will fit your taste if you liked Lain though.

Also if you love hotblooded mecha shows, just ask Sentenal for recommendations. He's like the go-to mecha guy around here since he watches a lot of it, though I think he's already given some already.
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AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
December 23 2011 15:53 GMT
#34286
On December 24 2011 00:45 Milkis wrote:
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On December 23 2011 23:44 tonight wrote:
Milkis has no empathy. Hates all emotion driven shows. It's quite obvious he would like mecha seeing as he is a robot. Robot Milkis.


I love hotblooded mecha stuff. whooo!

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On December 24 2011 00:37 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:
hi what are some good series

i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish.

here's my MAL

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

if you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great

thanks

Milkis, I love your work, but man, your taste in anime is just, like, fucked right the hell up.

Samurai Champloo a 5? FMP is a good show, but the original and Fumoffu above anything by Gainax? DRRR only a 4?

And holy fuck look how low you rated the Gundam shows.

I can't understand how you rate things like this. I know different people have different tastes and stuff like that, but damn, it's like you just decided to randomly assign numbers to everything. I think your rating ranges are just messed up, like 10 means perfect, 7 means good, 5 means ok and 1 means absolute shit. Almost none of the shows you have on there rate below a 5, and most above that.


tbh if i had to re-rate it now champloo would be way below a 5.

i just think a lot of series i watched is "okay" at best and not much past that hahaha. i can justify nearly every vote i have.

Also DRRR is an abomination. What a terrible series. Why did I give it a 4? Should have gave it a lower score. Must have been biased since I rated that and a few others right after I watched it.


Wait, you love hot blooded mecha stuff, but the highest rated one you have is TTGL at a 7? Code Geass isn't hot-blooded, neither is FMP. You also gave G Gundam a 6 and GGG a 5. Is that you "liking" them?

Maybe I'm just messed up on your numbering system. What number and up is "good show, would watch again"?

And what the hell is wrong with Champloo?
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#34287
On December 24 2011 00:37 AwayFromLife wrote:
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On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:
hi what are some good series

i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish.

here's my MAL

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

if you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great

thanks

Milkis, I love your work, but man, your taste in anime is just, like, fucked right the hell up.

Samurai Champloo a 5? FMP is a good show, but the original and Fumoffu above anything by Gainax? DRRR only a 4?

And holy fuck look how low you rated the Gundam shows.

I can't understand how you rate things like this. I know different people have different tastes and stuff like that, but damn, it's like you just decided to randomly assign numbers to everything. I think your rating ranges are just messed up, like 10 means perfect, 7 means good, 5 means ok and 1 means absolute shit. Almost none of the shows you have on there rate below a 5, and most above that.


Why would you watch more than an episode of something you'd rate below say, a 3. Thus a list of anime that one's seen should realistically be mostly above a 5, unless u really enjoy watching awful shows to torture yourself. Even then you'd be obligated to rate it higher due to you being M allows you to enjoy it.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
December 23 2011 15:57 GMT
#34288
On December 24 2011 00:50 Southlight wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.

Well, at least yours is ordered in a way that makes more sense to me, with a few exceptions.

How is Bebop so low on your list? You gave one of the highest rated, most award winning anime of all time a 5? I mean, it can't live up to the hype and what not, but it's still objectively amazingly animated, with a great soundtrack, both sets of VAs do a good job, and the action sequences are well done. What does it lack that made you rate it so low?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#34289
On December 23 2011 16:10 EchOne wrote:
BS2
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Ryuuto is on the car explaining the rest of his encounter with Amamiya in detail. Is Amamiya planning to get married to get revenge on Kurosaki? Does she have a partner in mind? Might need to reread this part.


Guh need to sleep. Wish I could read faster.


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Isn't is "Amemiya?"

That's what it is in the translations. : /
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
December 23 2011 16:02 GMT
#34290
On December 24 2011 00:58 Ferrose wrote:
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On December 23 2011 16:10 EchOne wrote:
BS2
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Ryuuto is on the car explaining the rest of his encounter with Amamiya in detail. Is Amamiya planning to get married to get revenge on Kurosaki? Does she have a partner in mind? Might need to reread this part.


Guh need to sleep. Wish I could read faster.


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Isn't is "Amemiya?"

That's what it is in the translations. : /

It can actually be read both ways (according to JMnedict), I'm just going by the way Mecab tells me :x
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 23 2011 16:02 GMT
#34291
Hm, I just wound up re-reading the entire Hellsing manga (one of my perennial favorites that I actually own), and want to watch the anime, which I still haven't seen either of. Should I just stick to the OVAs, or is the original anime worth a look?
It's your boy Guzma!
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 23 2011 16:05 GMT
#34292
On December 23 2011 20:44 Sentenal wrote:
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On December 23 2011 17:09 Sentenal wrote:
I made some comparisions between the original DVD version and the current Gundam SEED HD Remaster thats on Youtube right now.

Here are lots of pictures comparing the 2 versions:
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So looks like there is cropping going on, unfortunately. Although, its sorta weird. In a few of these you can actually see MORE on the side, even though alot on the bottom is still getting cut. Looks like I was wrong in my inital impression that things weren't cropped.

Oh well, will still watch to see if they touch up on some animation here and there. Will hope the broadcast or BD version will not be cropped.

Here is another picture, this time from some dude on /m/, that shows the NEW things in the HD remaster (other than remix ED):
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Aka the CG in the beginning showing the PLANTs and a few scenes in the OP (although it did miss 1 new scene in the OP)

I think its kinda funny that Miguel now gets a part in the OP. + Show Spoiler +
I wonder if they are still going to kill him off in episode 2?

Don't seem that quite impressed atm with the SEED remaster. Changing the OP is not that big a deal. It's probably the easiest you can do in terms of a remaster. Dragonball Kai had some sick looking OP, everything was newly drawn and animated, but that's about it. Rest of the episode was just cropped and widened. Looks that way so far with the actual episode too for SEED. However, I did like SEED so I'll probably watch it anyways and use this to replace the version I have.


On December 23 2011 16:18 KazeHydra wrote:
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On December 23 2011 15:45 Blasterion wrote:
On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:
On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:
Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]

With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel (Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable.

Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world.

After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on.

He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable.

The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch.
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Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on.

And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN

However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +
you are 16 years old
and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better.

Renton wasn't as bad as Shinji =D but yeah he was really bad. At least Garrod was a real man
On December 23 2011 15:43 tonight wrote:
On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:
hi what are some good series

i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish.

here's my MAL

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

if you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great

thanks


You gave Kimi ga Nozomu Eien a 1? Man...

He gave 5cm a 10 and Gaogaigar a 5-6 also. He rated Kanon a 2....

Giving 5cm a 10, I forgive him. I would recommend ef a tale of memories (and melodies, the sequel) since that is ranked really similar to 5cm in my mind, but honestly, I'm not sure you'd enjoy it because some of your other ratings.

Something I'm curious about ratings: do you guys ever give out 1's and 2's? In my opinion, if something is really that bad, there's no way you would be able to actually finish the show. If you do, then that means you sat through 13+ episodes of nothing but pain and misery, meaning you are some kind of masochist. I can understand the idea of hoping it gets better but it never does (I did that with Blood-C...but only because of Nana) but that means there must be at least something about the show that interested you. Surely there was something "good enough" that kept you going through all the horrible aspects of the show? I just find it hard to believe that a person can manage to finish a show and give it a 1, meaning it belongs at the absolute bottom of all the worst of the worst anime ever, failing in every category of animation, characters, plot, music, execution, etc. A 2 is somewhat believable, but it must've been nothing but a miserable ride. Movies are different, of course, because they're much shorter and you don't have to go open new files despite thinking "that was horrible, why am I watching the next episode?"

My lowest for actual series is 6, but that's just me and I score very high. Anything lower is usually dropped and never completed. Lowest actual score is 2 but those were CG recaps/picture dramas and I don't know why I even watched it.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 23 2011 16:06 GMT
#34293
On December 24 2011 00:57 AwayFromLife wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:50 Southlight wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.

Well, at least yours is ordered in a way that makes more sense to me, with a few exceptions.

How is Bebop so low on your list? You gave one of the highest rated, most award winning anime of all time a 5? I mean, it can't live up to the hype and what not, but it's still objectively amazingly animated, with a great soundtrack, both sets of VAs do a good job, and the action sequences are well done. What does it lack that made you rate it so low?


I don't get what's your problem. People have opinions about what shows they dislike/like. Just because something is "objectively" amazing doesn't mean they have to explain themselves when they rate it as a bad show.
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
December 23 2011 16:09 GMT
#34294
On December 24 2011 00:53 AwayFromLife wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:45 Milkis wrote:
On December 23 2011 23:44 tonight wrote:
Milkis has no empathy. Hates all emotion driven shows. It's quite obvious he would like mecha seeing as he is a robot. Robot Milkis.


I love hotblooded mecha stuff. whooo!

On December 24 2011 00:37 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:
hi what are some good series

i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish.

here's my MAL

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkis

if you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great

thanks

Milkis, I love your work, but man, your taste in anime is just, like, fucked right the hell up.

Samurai Champloo a 5? FMP is a good show, but the original and Fumoffu above anything by Gainax? DRRR only a 4?

And holy fuck look how low you rated the Gundam shows.

I can't understand how you rate things like this. I know different people have different tastes and stuff like that, but damn, it's like you just decided to randomly assign numbers to everything. I think your rating ranges are just messed up, like 10 means perfect, 7 means good, 5 means ok and 1 means absolute shit. Almost none of the shows you have on there rate below a 5, and most above that.


tbh if i had to re-rate it now champloo would be way below a 5.

i just think a lot of series i watched is "okay" at best and not much past that hahaha. i can justify nearly every vote i have.

Also DRRR is an abomination. What a terrible series. Why did I give it a 4? Should have gave it a lower score. Must have been biased since I rated that and a few others right after I watched it.


Wait, you love hot blooded mecha stuff, but the highest rated one you have is TTGL at a 7? Code Geass isn't hot-blooded, neither is FMP. You also gave G Gundam a 6 and GGG a 5. Is that you "liking" them?

Maybe I'm just messed up on your numbering system. What number and up is "good show, would watch again"?

And what the hell is wrong with Champloo?


Yes, me giving TTGL a 7, G Gundam a 6, GGG a 5 and GGG Final a 6 is me liking it.

Anything above an 7 is something I'd watch again. Anything above a 5 means I liked it.

hot blooded mecha stuff would be a lot lower if I didn't like the concept of it. Because most of them don't have interesting/fantastic concept behind them but it's just generic video game plot packaged in screams and over the top scenes.

I don't like anything that's just"mindless" entertainment that they package up into something that's not what it should be. If you're going for mindless entertainment, go all out (fumoffu, PPD). But i don't like things that just take a plot and try to package things in a way that in the end loses all focus on what it tries to do. I dont like champloo for the reason. I watch it and go, "why was this story even made, what story is this trying to tell" and I come up with a blank. Episode 1 was cool as hell though.

On December 24 2011 00:50 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:47 Milkis wrote:
On December 23 2011 20:29 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 23 2011 19:12 DarthXX wrote:
On December 23 2011 17:23 Milkis wrote:

I give 1s and 2s because people often promise me things get better so i watch it anyway. in the case of KGNE it was such a trainwreck that i just decided to just finish it. for something like AIR and Kanon it was because i was young and naive and people convinced me it gets better and itll move me emotionally. Like hell it did. One Piece and Hajime no Ippo does a far better job moving me emotionally >

i think i rate a bit harshly though, 5s mean i like the series but i can't objectively think that it was "good" compared to waht's out there and it was only average compared to what i had watched.


In that case be ready to be disappointed by steins;gate, overrated to the max.

I'll be serious now, you should watch Hanasaku Iroha, easily the best anime of 2011


Naw, I don't think so. Even if it's overrated, I think it's worth your time to watch. It starts off REALLY slow, but the last half of the season is what makes or breaks the show for people.

Hanasaku Iroha was a decent show but it fell off hard in the middle before picking it up decently in the end.

I'd also like to note that if you want to try something emotional, try Anohana.

Uhhh....it looks like you also liked Lain....try Texhnolyze. Made by the same staff and it's really good.

Edit: This recommendation is coming out of nowhere, but I think you might like Katanagatari. I also see you haven't watched Welcome to the NHK. I'd recommend that too.


Yeah, I'm not out there looking for 7s~8s because in my world they're quite rare. A 5 is watchable and entertaining enough. The concept for S;G seems wacky enough to try (in fact: downloading it now)

I'll also put the other stuff you recommended in the list


Well, your taste is a lot different from mine so I'm curious how you'll like Katanagatari and NHK. I'm pretty sure Texhnolyze will fit your taste if you liked Lain though.

Also if you love hotblooded mecha shows, just ask Sentenal for recommendations. He's like the go-to mecha guy around here since he watches a lot of it, though I think he's already given some already.


will do :O




Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 23 2011 16:10 GMT
#34295
On December 24 2011 01:02 Requizen wrote:
Hm, I just wound up re-reading the entire Hellsing manga (one of my perennial favorites that I actually own), and want to watch the anime, which I still haven't seen either of. Should I just stick to the OVAs, or is the original anime worth a look?


Original anime goes off on a bizarre tangent because the anime was only like 4 vols in at that time. Not really worth it.

On December 24 2011 00:57 AwayFromLife wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:50 Southlight wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.

Well, at least yours is ordered in a way that makes more sense to me, with a few exceptions.

How is Bebop so low on your list? You gave one of the highest rated, most award winning anime of all time a 5? I mean, it can't live up to the hype and what not, but it's still objectively amazingly animated, with a great soundtrack, both sets of VAs do a good job, and the action sequences are well done. What does it lack that made you rate it so low?


I dislike episodic stuff, and of the however many episodes it had I only enjoyed like four.
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AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
December 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#34296
On December 24 2011 01:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:57 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:50 Southlight wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.

Well, at least yours is ordered in a way that makes more sense to me, with a few exceptions.

How is Bebop so low on your list? You gave one of the highest rated, most award winning anime of all time a 5? I mean, it can't live up to the hype and what not, but it's still objectively amazingly animated, with a great soundtrack, both sets of VAs do a good job, and the action sequences are well done. What does it lack that made you rate it so low?


I don't get what's your problem. People have opinions about what shows they dislike/like. Just because something is "objectively" amazing doesn't mean they have to explain themselves when they rate it as a bad show.

I'm being harsh, I know, but I'm not really the type to hold my thoughts back.

I'm just saying. There's a reason the show is almost universally loved and is one of the highest rated animes of all time. And it's not like it hasn't aged well, either. I'm genuinely curious as to what he didn't like about it.

It's like being a fan of classical music but hating Bach or Mozart. You'd respect them for their compositions and still rate them highly, recognizing their skill and vision, but you just wouldn't listen to them.

For example, I really dislike the original Ghost in the Shell movie. I fall asleep every time I see it. I just think it's a weak anime film, and that it sorely lacks in comparison to SaC. However, I'd never rate it under an 8 or anything like that, because it is objectively a visionary film that excels in many fields (visual, audio, direction).

I guess I'm used to my reviews being more objective based than subjective.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
December 23 2011 16:12 GMT
#34297
On December 24 2011 01:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On December 24 2011 00:57 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:50 Southlight wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.

Well, at least yours is ordered in a way that makes more sense to me, with a few exceptions.

How is Bebop so low on your list? You gave one of the highest rated, most award winning anime of all time a 5? I mean, it can't live up to the hype and what not, but it's still objectively amazingly animated, with a great soundtrack, both sets of VAs do a good job, and the action sequences are well done. What does it lack that made you rate it so low?


I don't get what's your problem. People have opinions about what shows they dislike/like. Just because something is "objectively" amazing doesn't mean they have to explain themselves when they rate it as a bad show.


it wouldn't be that way if people watched intellectually imo
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
December 23 2011 16:16 GMT
#34298
On December 24 2011 01:12 AwayFromLife wrote:
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On December 24 2011 01:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:57 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:50 Southlight wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.

Well, at least yours is ordered in a way that makes more sense to me, with a few exceptions.

How is Bebop so low on your list? You gave one of the highest rated, most award winning anime of all time a 5? I mean, it can't live up to the hype and what not, but it's still objectively amazingly animated, with a great soundtrack, both sets of VAs do a good job, and the action sequences are well done. What does it lack that made you rate it so low?


I don't get what's your problem. People have opinions about what shows they dislike/like. Just because something is "objectively" amazing doesn't mean they have to explain themselves when they rate it as a bad show.

I'm being harsh, I know, but I'm not really the type to hold my thoughts back.

I'm just saying. There's a reason the show is almost universally loved and is one of the highest rated animes of all time. And it's not like it hasn't aged well, either. I'm genuinely curious as to what he didn't like about it.

It's like being a fan of classical music but hating Bach or Mozart. You'd respect them for their compositions and still rate them highly, recognizing their skill and vision, but you just wouldn't listen to them.

For example, I really dislike the original Ghost in the Shell movie. I fall asleep every time I see it. I just think it's a weak anime film, and that it sorely lacks in comparison to SaC. However, I'd never rate it under an 8 or anything like that, because it is objectively a visionary film that excels in many fields (visual, audio, direction).

I guess I'm used to my reviews being more objective based than subjective.


comparing any anime to "classics" is kind of ridiculous. most popular anime is like the most popular pop song in the day. its not even comparable to music because it's possible for a single genius to write music that's pretty damn amazing. Anime requires too much manpower and it all depends on a director and most "good" directors are crack pot directors that make one good anime out of a fluke and pretend they can do it again.

Also it's also quite different from bashing mozart/bach because mozart and bach wrote a lot of different music. Same thing with beethoven. I know people who love the 9th symphony and some people who don't think the 9th symphony is so great but still love beethoven. even the "great masterpieces" are subject to taste :p
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 23 2011 16:18 GMT
#34299
On December 24 2011 01:12 ZoW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 01:06 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:57 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:50 Southlight wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:45 AwayFromLife wrote:
On December 24 2011 00:40 Southlight wrote:
My numbers are similar as his to be honest.

Can I see your MAL then, if you have one?

I don't use it, but now I'm curious.


http://myanimelist.net/animelist/nightseternal

I'm obviously more liberal than he is with high scores but I give low scores quite naturally. If I bothered to rate all the shit I dropped they'd all be like 1-3 also.

Well, at least yours is ordered in a way that makes more sense to me, with a few exceptions.

How is Bebop so low on your list? You gave one of the highest rated, most award winning anime of all time a 5? I mean, it can't live up to the hype and what not, but it's still objectively amazingly animated, with a great soundtrack, both sets of VAs do a good job, and the action sequences are well done. What does it lack that made you rate it so low?


I don't get what's your problem. People have opinions about what shows they dislike/like. Just because something is "objectively" amazing doesn't mean they have to explain themselves when they rate it as a bad show.


it wouldn't be that way if people watched intellectually imo


Of course I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who doesn't watch anime intellectually.

I, on the other hand, am always watching a pen and paper at the ready.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 23 2011 16:19 GMT
#34300
By the way Milkis, Super Robot Wars: the Inspectors is pretty silly guilty pleasure for hot-blooded mecha action (I notice you only watched Divine Wars, which was comparably meh).
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