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+ Show Spoiler +Ryuuto is on the car explaining the rest of his encounter with Amamiya in detail. Is Amamiya planning to get married to get revenge on Kurosaki? Does she have a partner in mind? Might need to reread this part.
Guh need to sleep. Wish I could read faster.
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On December 23 2011 16:03 Gao Xi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:58 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:56 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:51 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:47 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. I'm sorry that you cant understand that Eureka 7 is a good anime. It isn't about understanding its not a good anime. Eureka 7 being bad is one of the very few things that Shauni and I agree on. Eureka 7 is a MECHA anime, and I don't like it. Have you watched Gundam X? I'm not talking about it in terms of mecha. Just because it has mecha in it, does not automatically make it the focus of the anime Well, my point was that Eureka 7 is a Mecha anime. As you know, thats my favorite type of anime. Mecha stuff normally allows me to forgive other flaws in the show. However, despite this, despite it being a mecha show, I still disliked it. In my mind at least, that should give a good indication about the quality of the show. Have you watched Gundam X? Disliked it cause you didn't like the kids or the main character? I havent seen Gundam X, and im not arguing about the mecha. Eureka 7 is more than just a mecha anime. If you want to look at it in terms of mecha, it may or may not be that good or w/e. The mecha aspect help facilitate the storytelling, if you want to judge it in terms of mecha, fine, but disregarding the other aspects blindly and saying "I dont like it" is just -_-
Gao, this argument is really bad. Did you know that barely ANY mecha anime is about the robots themselves? They are ALWAYS used to help facilitate the story. Take Gundam SEED for exmaple, which we have been crazy about on IRC recently. Is the story about the Strike and the Freedom? Or is it about Kira Yamato being thrust into a war he doesn't want to fight? Same thing goes for most other mecha shows. The aspects of the plot, with fucking obnoxious kids as significant characters, with Renton the MC being completely unlikable, and then most everything else had already been done before seems like pretty good reason for me to not like it. Gundam X, except this time with a shitty cast.
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Oh hey, Sharoth, now with full voice
+ Show Spoiler [anime-sharing (nsfw ymmv)] +http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-%5B111222%5D-%5Bliar-soft%5D-%E6%BC%86%E9%BB%92%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8E%E3%82%B9%EF%BD%9Ewhat-beautiful-tomorrow%EF%BD%9E-full-voice-reborn-38297/
Tempted to get this one
[Nitro+] 月光のカルネヴァーレ + 特典CD + OST
is it worth it? Only decent one I seen on the recent list.
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On December 23 2011 16:12 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 16:03 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:58 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:56 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:51 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:47 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. I'm sorry that you cant understand that Eureka 7 is a good anime. It isn't about understanding its not a good anime. Eureka 7 being bad is one of the very few things that Shauni and I agree on. Eureka 7 is a MECHA anime, and I don't like it. Have you watched Gundam X? I'm not talking about it in terms of mecha. Just because it has mecha in it, does not automatically make it the focus of the anime Well, my point was that Eureka 7 is a Mecha anime. As you know, thats my favorite type of anime. Mecha stuff normally allows me to forgive other flaws in the show. However, despite this, despite it being a mecha show, I still disliked it. In my mind at least, that should give a good indication about the quality of the show. Have you watched Gundam X? Disliked it cause you didn't like the kids or the main character? I havent seen Gundam X, and im not arguing about the mecha. Eureka 7 is more than just a mecha anime. If you want to look at it in terms of mecha, it may or may not be that good or w/e. The mecha aspect help facilitate the storytelling, if you want to judge it in terms of mecha, fine, but disregarding the other aspects blindly and saying "I dont like it" is just -_- Gao, this argument is really bad. Did you know that barely ANY mecha anime is about the robots themselves? They are ALWAYS used to help facilitate the story. Take Gundam SEED for exmaple, which we have been crazy about on IRC recently. Is the story about the Strike and the Freedom? Or is it about Kira Yamato being thrust into a war he doesn't want to fight? Same thing goes for most other mecha shows. The aspects of the plot, with fucking obnoxious kids as significant characters, with Renton the MC being completely unlikable, and then most everything else had already been done before seems like pretty good reason for me to not like it. Gundam X, except this time with a shitty cast.
The kids themselves play more of a supporting role than a main cast role. Renton is initially shown as as obnoxious and annoying kid, and he does dumb shit cause hes 14 and hasn't lost his innocence. So yea, I can understand why you dont like him, cause of the fucking huge age disconnect. Do you think stuff has to be new for you to enjoy it? A lot of todays' animes aren't completely new either, however not all of them are trash.
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On December 23 2011 15:45 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. Renton wasn't as bad as Shinji =D but yeah he was really bad. At least Garrod was a real man Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:43 tonight wrote:On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:hi what are some good series i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish. here's my MAL http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkisif you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great thanks You gave Kimi ga Nozomu Eien a 1? Man... He gave 5cm a 10 and Gaogaigar a 5-6 also. He rated Kanon a 2....
Giving 5cm a 10, I forgive him. I would recommend ef a tale of memories (and melodies, the sequel) since that is ranked really similar to 5cm in my mind, but honestly, I'm not sure you'd enjoy it because some of your other ratings.
Something I'm curious about ratings: do you guys ever give out 1's and 2's? In my opinion, if something is really that bad, there's no way you would be able to actually finish the show. If you do, then that means you sat through 13+ episodes of nothing but pain and misery, meaning you are some kind of masochist. I can understand the idea of hoping it gets better but it never does (I did that with Blood-C...but only because of Nana) but that means there must be at least something about the show that interested you. Surely there was something "good enough" that kept you going through all the horrible aspects of the show? I just find it hard to believe that a person can manage to finish a show and give it a 1, meaning it belongs at the absolute bottom of all the worst of the worst anime ever, failing in every category of animation, characters, plot, music, execution, etc. A 2 is somewhat believable, but it must've been nothing but a miserable ride. Movies are different, of course, because they're much shorter and you don't have to go open new files despite thinking "that was horrible, why am I watching the next episode?"
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On December 23 2011 16:18 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:45 Blasterion wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. Renton wasn't as bad as Shinji =D but yeah he was really bad. At least Garrod was a real man On December 23 2011 15:43 tonight wrote:On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:hi what are some good series i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish. here's my MAL http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkisif you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great thanks You gave Kimi ga Nozomu Eien a 1? Man... He gave 5cm a 10 and Gaogaigar a 5-6 also. He rated Kanon a 2.... Giving 5cm a 10, I forgive him. I would recommend ef a tale of memories (and melodies, the sequel) since that is ranked really similar to 5cm in my mind, but honestly, I'm not sure you'd enjoy it because some of your other ratings. Something I'm curious about ratings: do you guys ever give out 1's and 2's? In my opinion, if something is really that bad, there's no way you would be able to actually finish the show. If you do, then that means you sat through 13+ episodes of nothing but pain and misery, meaning you are some kind of masochist. I can understand the idea of hoping it gets better but it never does (I did that with Blood-C...but only because of Nana) but that means there must be at least something about the show that interested you. Surely there was something "good enough" that kept you going through all the horrible aspects of the show? I just find it hard to believe that a person can manage to finish a show and give it a 1, meaning it belongs at the absolute bottom of all the worst of the worst anime ever, failing in every category of animation, characters, plot, music, execution, etc. A 2 is somewhat believable, but it must've been nothing but a miserable ride. Movies are different, of course, because they're much shorter and you don't have to go open new files despite thinking "that was horrible, why am I watching the next episode?"
so far the worst anime I've seen, I gave a 4. I am not the type to give 1s unless they have really bad art. Even bad plots gets a 4 atleast. but bad art and plot (mostly bad art) I will give a one if the shit looked like some 3rd grader's doodle.
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On December 23 2011 16:12 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 16:03 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:58 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:56 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:51 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:47 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. I'm sorry that you cant understand that Eureka 7 is a good anime. It isn't about understanding its not a good anime. Eureka 7 being bad is one of the very few things that Shauni and I agree on. Eureka 7 is a MECHA anime, and I don't like it. Have you watched Gundam X? I'm not talking about it in terms of mecha. Just because it has mecha in it, does not automatically make it the focus of the anime Well, my point was that Eureka 7 is a Mecha anime. As you know, thats my favorite type of anime. Mecha stuff normally allows me to forgive other flaws in the show. However, despite this, despite it being a mecha show, I still disliked it. In my mind at least, that should give a good indication about the quality of the show. Have you watched Gundam X? Disliked it cause you didn't like the kids or the main character? I havent seen Gundam X, and im not arguing about the mecha. Eureka 7 is more than just a mecha anime. If you want to look at it in terms of mecha, it may or may not be that good or w/e. The mecha aspect help facilitate the storytelling, if you want to judge it in terms of mecha, fine, but disregarding the other aspects blindly and saying "I dont like it" is just -_- Gao, this argument is really bad. Did you know that barely ANY mecha anime is about the robots themselves? They are ALWAYS used to help facilitate the story. Take Gundam SEED for exmaple, which we have been crazy about on IRC recently. Is the story about the Strike and the Freedom? Or is it about Kira Yamato being thrust into a war he doesn't want to fight? Same thing goes for most other mecha shows. The aspects of the plot, with fucking obnoxious kids as significant characters, with Renton the MC being completely unlikable, and then most everything else had already been done before seems like pretty good reason for me to not like it. Gundam X, except this time with a shitty cast.
Full Metal Panic does not revolve around mecha even though it had mecha :p
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On December 23 2011 16:23 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 16:12 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 16:03 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:58 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:56 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:51 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:47 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. I'm sorry that you cant understand that Eureka 7 is a good anime. It isn't about understanding its not a good anime. Eureka 7 being bad is one of the very few things that Shauni and I agree on. Eureka 7 is a MECHA anime, and I don't like it. Have you watched Gundam X? I'm not talking about it in terms of mecha. Just because it has mecha in it, does not automatically make it the focus of the anime Well, my point was that Eureka 7 is a Mecha anime. As you know, thats my favorite type of anime. Mecha stuff normally allows me to forgive other flaws in the show. However, despite this, despite it being a mecha show, I still disliked it. In my mind at least, that should give a good indication about the quality of the show. Have you watched Gundam X? Disliked it cause you didn't like the kids or the main character? I havent seen Gundam X, and im not arguing about the mecha. Eureka 7 is more than just a mecha anime. If you want to look at it in terms of mecha, it may or may not be that good or w/e. The mecha aspect help facilitate the storytelling, if you want to judge it in terms of mecha, fine, but disregarding the other aspects blindly and saying "I dont like it" is just -_- Gao, this argument is really bad. Did you know that barely ANY mecha anime is about the robots themselves? They are ALWAYS used to help facilitate the story. Take Gundam SEED for exmaple, which we have been crazy about on IRC recently. Is the story about the Strike and the Freedom? Or is it about Kira Yamato being thrust into a war he doesn't want to fight? Same thing goes for most other mecha shows. The aspects of the plot, with fucking obnoxious kids as significant characters, with Renton the MC being completely unlikable, and then most everything else had already been done before seems like pretty good reason for me to not like it. Gundam X, except this time with a shitty cast. Full Metal Panic does not revolve around mecha even though it had mecha :p
Yeah that was sorta my point lol. Unless you are just trying to reinforce what I said.
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On December 23 2011 16:18 KazeHydra wrote:
Something I'm curious about ratings: do you guys ever give out 1's and 2's? In my opinion, if something is really that bad, there's no way you would be able to actually finish the show. If you do, then that means you sat through 13+ episodes of nothing but pain and misery, meaning you are some kind of masochist. I can understand the idea of hoping it gets better but it never does (I did that with Blood-C...but only because of Nana) but that means there must be at least something about the show that interested you. Surely there was something "good enough" that kept you going through all the horrible aspects of the show? I just find it hard to believe that a person can manage to finish a show and give it a 1, meaning it belongs at the absolute bottom of all the worst of the worst anime ever, failing in every category of animation, characters, plot, music, execution, etc. A 2 is somewhat believable, but it must've been nothing but a miserable ride. Movies are different, of course, because they're much shorter and you don't have to go open new files despite thinking "that was horrible, why am I watching the next episode?"
I watched about 10 eps of Rosario Vampire before dropping it completely just shy of completing it. And I gotta say, that was the most horrendous anime I have ever seen in my life. Going through every single episode was just a plain suffer. The only thing that held me on was that it had fanservice (yes, I was very shallow then). I would give a honest rating of 2, and thats being generous.
Another anime that I watched and I would rate incredibly low would be Yumekui Merry. Not because it was bad per se. I just felt like they gave me a huge middle finger at the end. I hope to god they salvage that anime with a season 2, it had so much potential, I was so dissapointed.
Edit: I guess you could say that I would rate an anime low just for the sole reason of wanting to "stick a middle finger" back.
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Wait, does remastering mean that they're touching up on the animation and adding new scenes, or just touching up on the animation? Because SEED recycled a bunch of battle shots which kind of frustrated me and turned me off.
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On December 23 2011 16:23 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 16:12 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 16:03 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:58 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:56 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:51 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:47 Gao Xi wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. I'm sorry that you cant understand that Eureka 7 is a good anime. It isn't about understanding its not a good anime. Eureka 7 being bad is one of the very few things that Shauni and I agree on. Eureka 7 is a MECHA anime, and I don't like it. Have you watched Gundam X? I'm not talking about it in terms of mecha. Just because it has mecha in it, does not automatically make it the focus of the anime Well, my point was that Eureka 7 is a Mecha anime. As you know, thats my favorite type of anime. Mecha stuff normally allows me to forgive other flaws in the show. However, despite this, despite it being a mecha show, I still disliked it. In my mind at least, that should give a good indication about the quality of the show. Have you watched Gundam X? Disliked it cause you didn't like the kids or the main character? I havent seen Gundam X, and im not arguing about the mecha. Eureka 7 is more than just a mecha anime. If you want to look at it in terms of mecha, it may or may not be that good or w/e. The mecha aspect help facilitate the storytelling, if you want to judge it in terms of mecha, fine, but disregarding the other aspects blindly and saying "I dont like it" is just -_- Gao, this argument is really bad. Did you know that barely ANY mecha anime is about the robots themselves? They are ALWAYS used to help facilitate the story. Take Gundam SEED for exmaple, which we have been crazy about on IRC recently. Is the story about the Strike and the Freedom? Or is it about Kira Yamato being thrust into a war he doesn't want to fight? Same thing goes for most other mecha shows. The aspects of the plot, with fucking obnoxious kids as significant characters, with Renton the MC being completely unlikable, and then most everything else had already been done before seems like pretty good reason for me to not like it. Gundam X, except this time with a shitty cast. Full Metal Panic does not revolve around mecha even though it had mecha :p
I think he was trying to say Mecha show's are rarely ever about just the robot. Which is true for the shows Ive seen atleast. Which is just most of the Macross stuff, TTGL, E7, Bismarck and Gunbsuter Granted I felt Gunbuster was probably to short to do itself justice and hell the most important thing about the Robot is that its just really really big.
On December 23 2011 16:18 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:45 Blasterion wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. Renton wasn't as bad as Shinji =D but yeah he was really bad. At least Garrod was a real man On December 23 2011 15:43 tonight wrote:On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:hi what are some good series i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish. here's my MAL http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkisif you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great thanks You gave Kimi ga Nozomu Eien a 1? Man... He gave 5cm a 10 and Gaogaigar a 5-6 also. He rated Kanon a 2.... Giving 5cm a 10, I forgive him. I would recommend ef a tale of memories (and melodies, the sequel) since that is ranked really similar to 5cm in my mind, but honestly, I'm not sure you'd enjoy it because some of your other ratings. Something I'm curious about ratings: do you guys ever give out 1's and 2's? In my opinion, if something is really that bad, there's no way you would be able to actually finish the show. If you do, then that means you sat through 13+ episodes of nothing but pain and misery, meaning you are some kind of masochist. I can understand the idea of hoping it gets better but it never does (I did that with Blood-C...but only because of Nana) but that means there must be at least something about the show that interested you. Surely there was something "good enough" that kept you going through all the horrible aspects of the show? I just find it hard to believe that a person can manage to finish a show and give it a 1, meaning it belongs at the absolute bottom of all the worst of the worst anime ever, failing in every category of animation, characters, plot, music, execution, etc. A 2 is somewhat believable, but it must've been nothing but a miserable ride. Movies are different, of course, because they're much shorter and you don't have to go open new files despite thinking "that was horrible, why am I watching the next episode?"
I gave b gata h k a 2, But otherwise never really, Most 4,5 and 6s are worth the 20 odd mins you invest in them. I didnt watch the last epi of Blood C after what you told me, I might aswell have but thats a solid 1 if there ever was one.
On December 23 2011 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
I watched about 10 eps of Rosario Vampire before dropping it completely just shy of completing it. And I gotta say, that was the most horrendous anime I have ever seen in my life. Going through every single episode was just a plain suffer. The only thing that held me on was that it had fanservice (yes, I was very shallow then). I would give a honest rating of 2, and thats being generous.
Another anime that I watched and I would rate incredibly low would be Yumekui Merry. Not because it was bad per se. I just felt like they gave me a huge middle finger at the end. I hope to god they salvage that anime with a season 2, it had so much potential, I was so dissapointed.
Whats bad about hot monsters chicks that never actually look like monsters ever? Rosario is a classic of the monster harem genre. The dual personality of the vampire, the cold indifference of the icechick, the flirty succubus, the ditzy yet genius loli witch. It even caters to Ferrose, such is the variety that show throws at you. And comon how often do you get to see a human thrown into a highschool were hes friends with all the hotstuff around and everything else looks like it should be under a bridge. The romantic almost kiss exchanges between Moka and whats his name, that always get comically interrupted. You just cant appreciate it 
edit : they even add a tsundere imouto now that I remember. Full house.
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On December 23 2011 16:30 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 16:18 KazeHydra wrote:
Something I'm curious about ratings: do you guys ever give out 1's and 2's? In my opinion, if something is really that bad, there's no way you would be able to actually finish the show. If you do, then that means you sat through 13+ episodes of nothing but pain and misery, meaning you are some kind of masochist. I can understand the idea of hoping it gets better but it never does (I did that with Blood-C...but only because of Nana) but that means there must be at least something about the show that interested you. Surely there was something "good enough" that kept you going through all the horrible aspects of the show? I just find it hard to believe that a person can manage to finish a show and give it a 1, meaning it belongs at the absolute bottom of all the worst of the worst anime ever, failing in every category of animation, characters, plot, music, execution, etc. A 2 is somewhat believable, but it must've been nothing but a miserable ride. Movies are different, of course, because they're much shorter and you don't have to go open new files despite thinking "that was horrible, why am I watching the next episode?" I watched about 10 eps of Rosario Vampire before dropping it completely just shy of completing it. And I gotta say, that was the most horrendous anime I have ever seen in my life. Going through every single episode was just a plain suffer. The only thing that held me on was that it had fanservice (yes, I was very shallow then). I would give a honest rating of 2, and thats being generous. Another anime that I watched and I would rate incredibly low would be Yumekui Merry. Not because it was bad per se. I just felt like they gave me a huge middle finger at the end. I hope to god they salvage that anime with a season 2, it had so much potential, I was so dissapointed.
HA! Rosario Vampire will always remain the most ironic anime I have ever watched. Definitely one of the more painful things I've seen yet the show that taught me the name Nana Mizuki.
edit: now that Rebs mentioned it, yeah S1 was your super generic average harem of every archetype. S2 was what I was thinking of, but the only thing about S2 I remember was that I erased it from my memories for being so bad.
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On December 23 2011 15:52 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:50 Southlight wrote:On December 23 2011 15:47 Blasterion wrote:On December 23 2011 15:46 Southlight wrote:
WTF is someone seriously recommending STRAWBERRY PANIC?
Oh my god. Do you expect anymore/less from me? the author of the yuri guide? That's like saying I like reading manga, so I'm going to recommend Rampage. Hey it had a coherent plot that was enjoyable, all I am saying
Coherent plot? It had like six different storylines and only give passing mention to most of them. They didn't have the balls to go White Album on the triangle(s), and so much was over-the-top.
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rosario vampire manga is actually pretty good, the anime adaption is an insult to it...
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On December 23 2011 16:56 Naphal wrote:
rosario vampire manga is actually pretty good, the anime adaption is an insult to it...
Ill begrudgingly admit that I read the manga hearing the same thing apparantly theres a second part where it gets serious, I remember reading some upto and a little beyond some part where + Show Spoiler +He goes all turned vampire suffering from some issues from artificial creation and does badass shit like all useless characters eventually have to
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On December 23 2011 16:10 EchOne wrote:BS2 + Show Spoiler +Ryuuto is on the car explaining the rest of his encounter with Amamiya in detail. Is Amamiya planning to get married to get revenge on Kurosaki? Does she have a partner in mind? Might need to reread this part. Guh need to sleep. Wish I could read faster.
You'll see lol, if only you have read Wuthering.
On December 23 2011 16:15 Blasterion wrote:Oh hey, Sharoth, now with full voice + Show Spoiler [anime-sharing (nsfw ymmv)] +http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-%5B111222%5D-%5Bliar-soft%5D-%E6%BC%86%E9%BB%92%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8E%E3%82%B9%EF%BD%9Ewhat-beautiful-tomorrow%EF%BD%9E-full-voice-reborn-38297/ Tempted to get this one [Nitro+] 月光のカルネヴァーレ + 特典CD + OST is it worth it? Only decent one I seen on the recent list.
Not just sharnoth, it was the first 3 steampunk games since they had very few voiced lines.
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I made some comparisions between the original DVD version and the current Gundam SEED HD Remaster thats on Youtube right now.
Here are lots of pictures comparing the 2 versions:
+ Show Spoiler +So looks like there is cropping going on, unfortunately. Although, its sorta weird. In a few of these you can actually see MORE on the side, even though alot on the bottom is still getting cut. Looks like I was wrong in my inital impression that things weren't cropped.
Oh well, will still watch to see if they touch up on some animation here and there. Will hope the broadcast or BD version will not be cropped.
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On December 23 2011 17:01 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 16:56 Naphal wrote:
rosario vampire manga is actually pretty good, the anime adaption is an insult to it...
Ill begrudgingly admit that I read the manga hearing the same thing apparantly theres a second part where it gets serious, I remember reading some upto and a little beyond some part where + Show Spoiler +He goes all turned vampire suffering from some issues from artificial creation and does badass shit like all useless characters eventually have to . I cant remember precisely why but It was still not worth my time and Im someone who actually read Vampire Bund so my standards can go pretty low.
hey everyone has his guilty pleasure xD... rosario is one of the first harem manga i read, maybe thats why i read that one instead of the billion others, also it indeed does get serious and has me waiting for the next translated chapter (once you are caught <.< ...)
for me its the opposite, vampire bund dropped because i could not really connect with the "hide in a loli body" plot.
and ofc high standards are for pussies and elitists, a real anime/manga connoisseur tries every genre at every intellectual level, even rereads when drunk or in a different mood!
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On December 23 2011 15:45 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. Renton wasn't as bad as Shinji =D but yeah he was really bad. At least Garrod was a real man Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:43 tonight wrote:On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:hi what are some good series i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish. here's my MAL http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkisif you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great thanks You gave Kimi ga Nozomu Eien a 1? Man... He gave 5cm a 10 and Gaogaigar a 5-6 also. He rated Kanon a 2....
KGNE: flat,boring characters trying to drama? no thank you.
GGG: I loved the series, but objectively it's pretty repetitive until the OVAs
Kanon: note that this isn't the 2007 version. the combination of art and the typical KEY formulaic drama turned it the hell off.
On December 23 2011 15:52 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:42 Milkis wrote:On December 23 2011 15:35 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote:On December 23 2011 15:29 Milkis wrote:On December 23 2011 14:18 DarthXX wrote:On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:hi what are some good series i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish. here's my MAL http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkisif you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great thanks School Days, can't not like it trolls everywhere Do you watch currently airing shows? I think you might like Steins;Gate. Its last season and supposed to be good. i have not. I'm going to try out steins;gate though, since quite a few recommended it. U gotta try Hanasaku Iroha if you liked 5cm. Both are just <3 Also, Bakemonogatari. Im sure others might have recommended that to you before.
also i didnt like 5cm for the drama, i liked it cause of the portrayal of distance which was pretty amazing... so i dont know what to think of the recs "because i liked 5cm". 5cm was pretty symbolic/nice about a lot of the things (the main character's smile at the end? lots to talk about there imo) which i dont think most anime can even come to pull off (oh look milkis is being elitist again derp derp). So keep that in mind T_T
people did recommend me bakemonogatari so yeah i'll probably look into it.
On December 23 2011 16:18 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2011 15:45 Blasterion wrote:On December 23 2011 15:44 Sentenal wrote:On December 23 2011 15:30 Gao Xi wrote:Eureka Seven
[~Contains spoilers~]
With the announcement of an Eureka Seven sequel ( Eureka Seven: Astral Ocean) to air April 2012, I need to talk about E7 a bit. Eureka Seven was an anime that aired in 2005-06 by Studio Bones and when I was watching it at the time, it was very entertaining and a decently good anime. I will be going over some of the reasons why Eureka Seven was a excellent anime and one of my favourites. Eureka Seven touches on many themes and topics throughout the anime including love, religion, war, and family. The main character, Renton, is forced to deal with the aspects of adulthood all triggered by unforeseen circumstances at home. Renton’s journey throughout the duration of Eureka Seven was his transition from childhood to adulthood, a loss of innocence. Not only was the story entertaining, the music as well as the visuals were also very good, which added to the overall experience to make it very enjoyable. Renton is shown as an underachiever who hates his life and wants change. He, however, never had the balls to do so, and escapes facing reality by “lifting“. His excuse for not willing to make change was that he was too young, too inexperienced to do so. Escaping into that “world” by adoring the sweet stories of Gekkostate and admiring them, for in his eyes, they are the embodiment of the change and life he wants to have. After Nirvash crashes into his room, he meets Eureka. For him, it was love at first sight, this represents his childishness and naivety because he likes her superficially. He finally decides he wants change after being faced with a choice to abandon all in his current life, to pursue (what he thinks is) a vastly more enjoyable life with his idols in Gekkostate and to follow the love of his life, Eureka. He unknowingly accepts many hardships to come that will shape him into a better person. “Don’t beg for it, Earn it. Then it will be granted to you.” with those words in mind he charges headfirst into the world. After arriving on the Gekko, he is shown that the life in Gekkostate wasn’t as glamorous as shown in the magazine. However, Gekkostate accepts him as part of his family (initially at least), and gives him a sense of family, after never really having one when he lived with his grandfather. This is followed by series of events that would slowly force Renton to take a step back away from the rose-colored glasses (primarily dealing with shit the kids do). He learns about different world perspectives but doesn’t fully comprehend them especially when it came to religion. He didn’t really have an opinion. After getting to know some of the Vodarac and then learning that they were anti-government labelled as terrorists and killed for their religion, he is torn by contending loyalties. The dark past of Gekkostate also shatters his preconceived view. When he starts having problems with Eureka, it was a test of his love. Though it was initially built on superficial ideals, he has grown strong enough for Renton to handle Eureka after her incident. Once he realizes he brutally murders an entire squad of KLFs and he is isolated from Gekkostate (but most importantly Eureka) He is forced to leave them, as he feels he is know longer feels like he is with them. This takes a lot balls to leave familiar surroundings and jump into the harsh world with nothing more than a backpack and a board. Now living a life of homelessness in an unknown city after being robbed of everything except his board, he finds the will to continue on. He finds a new “family” with Ray and Charles. This new family is a stark contrast to the “family” of Gekkostate. In Gekkostate, he was a punching bag for Holland, and he wasn’t really close enough with anyone other than Eureka. However with this new family, he is treated with respect, loved and appreciated. This speeds up the process of Renton getting close to Ray and Charles, as they were acting as the parent figures that he never had. Although he still does some of his dumb naïve shit, he was not scolded by Ray and Charles as they understand his perspective (there would be tremendously different actions if he was still with Gekkostate). Shortly after learning Ray and Charles’ real mission is to take back Nirvash and Eureka (and kill Gekkostate) he is again, torn by contending loyalties, his new family and his love for Eureka. This proves that his love for Eureka is real, and strong enough for him to chose a much harder life in order to be with her show signs that Renton is no longer that naïve little kid who escapes into his own world. As it goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer that Renton has become an adult. By the end of it, when you take a step back, it should feel like as if you raised him, watching his good days and bad days. Renton is not the only person that has character development, throughout the series you could see everyone grow, individually and collectively as a group. Character development among other things are some of the reasons why I think it was really enjoyable. The music used throughout Eureka Seven is amazing. The OPs and EDs are all amazing, and the fact that they used some of the OPs as insert songs for certain moments really creates a very upbeat and optimistic atmosphere while at the same time highlighting what has or is happening, they also did a good job with this using the reoccurring insert song “Storywriter”. The OST of Eureka Seven is mostly orchestra which felt like a good choice when looking at it as a whole in the anime. You could feel the music but it wasn’t overpowering the moment. The animation for the battle scenes were also well done. They use of high and low angles helped drive the point home, without overdoing it. In terms of characters, they were decent. The kids though, oh god I hated the kids. However, seeing as Renton had to deal with that shit throughout most of the anime until the end, I have to respect him for that. For the best character of all, Anemone. For being a badass crazy bitch. + Show Spoiler +Eureka Seven also won multiple awards including “Best Television Series of 2006”, “Best Character Designs” “Best Female Character” and so on. And with that, hopefully you look forward to Eureka Seven: Ao as much as I do, and hopefully Bones does and epically good job like it did with Psalms of Planets Eureka seveN However, Eureka Seven has a bunch of obnoxious kids as main characters, + Show Spoiler +and Renton was really fucking annoying. Eureka 7 was alot better when it was called Gundam X. ALOT better. Renton wasn't as bad as Shinji =D but yeah he was really bad. At least Garrod was a real man On December 23 2011 15:43 tonight wrote:On December 23 2011 12:05 Milkis wrote:hi what are some good series i haven't watched anime since like, 2008ish. here's my MAL http://myanimelist.net/animelist/orangemilkisif you could recommend series based on what i like it'd be great thanks You gave Kimi ga Nozomu Eien a 1? Man... He gave 5cm a 10 and Gaogaigar a 5-6 also. He rated Kanon a 2.... Giving 5cm a 10, I forgive him. I would recommend ef a tale of memories (and melodies, the sequel) since that is ranked really similar to 5cm in my mind, but honestly, I'm not sure you'd enjoy it because some of your other ratings. Something I'm curious about ratings: do you guys ever give out 1's and 2's? In my opinion, if something is really that bad, there's no way you would be able to actually finish the show. If you do, then that means you sat through 13+ episodes of nothing but pain and misery, meaning you are some kind of masochist. I can understand the idea of hoping it gets better but it never does (I did that with Blood-C...but only because of Nana) but that means there must be at least something about the show that interested you. Surely there was something "good enough" that kept you going through all the horrible aspects of the show? I just find it hard to believe that a person can manage to finish a show and give it a 1, meaning it belongs at the absolute bottom of all the worst of the worst anime ever, failing in every category of animation, characters, plot, music, execution, etc. A 2 is somewhat believable, but it must've been nothing but a miserable ride. Movies are different, of course, because they're much shorter and you don't have to go open new files despite thinking "that was horrible, why am I watching the next episode?"
yeah i really dont like VN style romantic nonsense
I give 1s and 2s because people often promise me things get better so i watch it anyway. in the case of KGNE it was such a trainwreck that i just decided to just finish it. for something like AIR and Kanon it was because i was young and naive and people convinced me it gets better and itll move me emotionally. Like hell it did. One Piece and Hajime no Ippo does a far better job moving me emotionally >
i think i rate a bit harshly though, 5s mean i like the series but i can't objectively think that it was "good" compared to waht's out there and it was only average compared to what i had watched.
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