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On May 08 2014 15:15 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +3) Boa Hancock (crew can use haki, but no known OP DF abilities, not a noble) wasnt her fruit enough to make the VA who came to talk with her have to stab his hand just to be able to talk to her without turning to stone?
He means that her CREW doesn't have any known OP DF abilities. Boa Hancock herself is obviously pretty OP.
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Boa Hancock is one of the strongest caracters in the op world!
her mastery of haki is probably one of the best!
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I always assumed that Boa Hancock was rather weak, since Luffy didn't have much of problem against her 2 sisters. However pirates from Amazon Lily are probably the only pirates able to cross the calm belt and potentially attack Marineships in the calm belt. In my head Boa was always weaker than Rob Lucci.
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Lol did you see her KO'ing like 5 pacifistas without trying?
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Boa Hancock gets away with things like ignoring orders and attacking her own allies. She's strong enough that the totalitarian marines are willing to put up with it to keep her on their side.
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Boa is not weaker than Luci
Nobody can take down pacifistas without trying hard without being strong pre-TS. Maybe not as strong as doffy since doflamingo is haxed but still strong.
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On May 08 2014 15:01 Sharkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2014 14:23 Forikorder wrote:On May 08 2014 14:18 Caladbolg wrote: Why does it seem like Mingo is infinitely more powerful than the other Shichibukai? hes just alot more showy Well, lets be honest, the word 'infintely' is a hyperbole. But I understand your point as he does seem significantly stronger than other Shichibukai. I think he seems really strong for four reasons: 1) Individually he is, 2) He has a strong crew, 3) he is a King and 4) He is a noble. 1) Bird cage, beating Law, dominating Oars, playing with others in the Marineford battle, etc. Calculating and smart, etc. He is the most trusted broker in the black market. Even when he is mean to his subordinates they still want to serve him (re: Bellamy). All his subordinates are really loyal. 2) I would say that Law was offered the Heart seat on his crew. I would also put his other Executives at a Supernova level. CC is a 300million loyal subordinate. He had a loyal VA, Vergo. He has two DF users that can turn enemies into art or toys. 3) He has all the power/influcence that a Kingdom has in the new world, which helps him in his black market trading 4) He has the backing of the government and is a Shichibukai; and thus has much more freedom No compare that to 1) Mihawk (no known crew, no kingdom/noble) 2) Kuma (no known crew, no kingdom/noble) 3) Boa Hancock (crew can use haki, but no known OP DF abilities, not a noble) 4) Buggy (strong crew, weak individually last time we saw him, no known kingdom, not a noble afaik) 5) Unknown Shichabukai (can't compare him to someone who I don't know) 6) Law (former Shichabukai) - (relatively strong crew, no kingdom, no royal blood, not as strong as Doflamingo)
In my opinion:
Would definitely defeat DD one on one:
- Kuma (prior to full cyborg)
Got a good change of winning
- Mihawk - Boa Hancock
Definitely lose
- Law (already lost) - Buggy
So to me that puts DD 1v1 in the mid to top tier. If you count crew I think he probably has to move to second, a pre-cyborg Kuma would stll just teleport the lesser crew away and then beat down DD.
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DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
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Just when i felt like the story is going to some rather familiar direction (that 'game' in skypea and alabama etc), oda speeds up the pacing by some lol moments this week haha.
GOD usopp so good. Even luffy laughed on that.
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anybody wanna fuck her will get turn into stone, Mingo is a true man, and a healthy one at that, there is nothing wrong with his parts, therefore he will turn into stone if they ever fought.
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On May 08 2014 22:03 Incognoto wrote: DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
DD wins easy .. DD skill cap too high
he is admiral level .. so it shouldn't be hard for him to beat Boa . Will take time but it won't be hard .
Just like smoker vs Law except law will be DD.
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I don't know for sure if DD would beat Boa.. but it wouldn't be easy since she also has conquer haki and dominates the other two plus has a hax DF and much combat experience!
But she thinks to highly of herself and that's a big weakness
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On May 09 2014 00:05 shell wrote: I don't know for sure if DD would beat Boa.. but it wouldn't be easy since she also has conquer haki and dominates the other two plus has a hax DF and much combat experience!
But she thinks to highly of herself and that's a big weakness idk man .. seems like boa's DF + conquerors haki doesn't work well with enemies who has confidence
and DD is pretty strong. He has proven himself to be too deadly. I don't think it's possible for boa to go against the level of admirals while DD can go on par with them. I'd rank him at least top 3 strongest shichibukai just behind kuma and the mysterious shichibukai
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On May 08 2014 23:51 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2014 22:03 Incognoto wrote: DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
DD wins easy .. DD skill cap too high he is admiral level .. so it shouldn't be hard for him to beat Boa . Will take time but it won't be hard . Just like smoker vs Law except law will be DD. DD is not admiral level
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On May 09 2014 00:10 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2014 23:51 goody153 wrote:On May 08 2014 22:03 Incognoto wrote: DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
DD wins easy .. DD skill cap too high he is admiral level .. so it shouldn't be hard for him to beat Boa . Will take time but it won't be hard . Just like smoker vs Law except law will be DD. DD is not admiral level Can you explain why he isnt admiral level.
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On May 09 2014 00:19 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 00:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 08 2014 23:51 goody153 wrote:On May 08 2014 22:03 Incognoto wrote: DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
DD wins easy .. DD skill cap too high he is admiral level .. so it shouldn't be hard for him to beat Boa . Will take time but it won't be hard . Just like smoker vs Law except law will be DD. DD is not admiral level Can you explain why he isnt admiral level.
It's too early for Luffy to defeat an admiral level guy
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On May 09 2014 00:19 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 00:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 08 2014 23:51 goody153 wrote:On May 08 2014 22:03 Incognoto wrote: DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
DD wins easy .. DD skill cap too high he is admiral level .. so it shouldn't be hard for him to beat Boa . Will take time but it won't be hard . Just like smoker vs Law except law will be DD. DD is not admiral level Can you explain why he isnt admiral level. the admirals have just been shown to be pretty much gods, like magma dude pretty much just walking through the war ignoring everyone to kill ace
and DD ran from Kyros and Luffy
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On May 09 2014 00:29 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 00:19 Mensol wrote:On May 09 2014 00:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 08 2014 23:51 goody153 wrote:On May 08 2014 22:03 Incognoto wrote: DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
DD wins easy .. DD skill cap too high he is admiral level .. so it shouldn't be hard for him to beat Boa . Will take time but it won't be hard . Just like smoker vs Law except law will be DD. DD is not admiral level Can you explain why he isnt admiral level. It's too early for Luffy to defeat an admiral level guy Who said that Luffy going to beat Doflamingo?
Its possible that Doflamingo will escape like Enel. btw Luffy didnt defeat Enel too. He just prevent him to destroy island, thats it.
On May 09 2014 00:31 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2014 00:19 Mensol wrote:On May 09 2014 00:10 Forikorder wrote:On May 08 2014 23:51 goody153 wrote:On May 08 2014 22:03 Incognoto wrote: DD vs Boa would be a tough fight for both I would say, I think DD would win though.
DD wins easy .. DD skill cap too high he is admiral level .. so it shouldn't be hard for him to beat Boa . Will take time but it won't be hard . Just like smoker vs Law except law will be DD. DD is not admiral level Can you explain why he isnt admiral level. the admirals have just been shown to be pretty much gods, like magma dude pretty much just walking through the war ignoring everyone to kill ace and DD ran from Kyros and Luffy He ran away because he want to protect S.A.D. Also its better to leave them to Fujitora.
Doflamingo is strong enough to fight against Admiral, just look at this scene. He didnt give a fuck about Fuji.
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I don't think DD 1v1 ability is that high up there (that's probably why he has so many of these loyal family crew), enough to deal with sanji and (presumably) wounded moriah but we have never actually seen him 1v1 anyone properly before (some encounters during the great war but nothing significant).
I am expecting SH crew to do team battle against DD crew and then DD will somehow flew away without sweat. Pretty sure DD is one of the top 'hard to be killed' guys.
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What makes DD great for me is that not only is he quite strong individually, but he's also incredibly smart/prepared... And playing on his home court. He is a bit Orcus on his throne-like (re Moria or any other boss character) but at least he isn't just waiting for the heroes to beat him without doing anything.
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