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Sentenal
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GettingIt
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On February 21 2014 07:01 Sentenal wrote: No, Vice Admiral Bastille is a Giant. Check the source if you don't believe me. One Piece wikia is not always a reliable source because people can put whatever they want in there. Unless you have the chapter in the manga where he is standing along with the other giants and Marineford this is not enough information to go by. | ||
Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 21 2014 07:40 GettingIt wrote: One Piece wikia is not always a reliable source because people can put whatever they want in there. Unless you have the chapter in the manga where he is standing along with the other giants and Marineford this is not enough information to go by. Heres your source since you decided not to check it: ![]() Hes a Giant. And the Databooks are by Oda, FYI. | ||
Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Hito Hito -> 1;10 1;10 Yomi Yomi -> 4;3 4;3 Gomu Gomu -> 5;6 5;6 Hana Hana -> 8;7 8;7 If Kuma with his Nikyu Nikyu(2;9 2;9) No Mi would join, they would have all basic numbers covered. There is also the theory that Luffy's gum gum fruit counters the quake fruit Blackbeard stole from Whitebeard, while the paw paw(Nikyu Nikyu) fruit's ability to push anything away would counter the darkness fruit's ability to suck everything in. I don't know about a new crewmember though. Aside from Robin all members of the strawhats took a position Luffy demanded or acknowledged. Even Zoro is the designated swordsman of the crew. Robin is the exception in that she just got on board with the explanation "I have nowhere else to go" Her being an archaeologist was secondary at that point. | ||
Sentenal
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Slaughter
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EchOne
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 21 2014 08:36 EchOne wrote: The DF number theory is based on the Japanese pronunciations of certain numbers. For instance "six" in Japanese is pronounced "roku" on its own, but also has a kun reading of "mu" in cases like "muttsu" (six of something). "Five" similarly has a kun reading of "itsu" or "itsutsu", but an on reading of "go". So when you put them together (5;6 5;6) you can read it as gomu gomu. It's a bit of a stretch, but some people think that the fruits of the Strawhats might be arranged to cover all of the first ten numbers in their names like that. The number thing in and of itself isn't that convincing, its more of Oda's reaction in the SBS to the question that lends the theory credence. He gave an exaggerated "NO COMMENT" answer when asked about it. | ||
GettingIt
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Sentenal
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GettingIt
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On February 21 2014 09:28 Sentenal wrote: I don't remember much about the theory, but IIRC it was something about Luffy getting Kuma's fruit so he would be able to counter Blackbeard. I kinda like the thought of that. It would give Luffy a power boost without just increasing his base stats to super sayjin levels. But the question is how... | ||
BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Kirsed
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Kuma was a deus ex machina more than anything else. Before and after the timeskip a few things can be abbreviated to "Kuma did it because he felt like it" He can be a tragic character with a touching story, but his established powers and abilities are just way too high to appear more than those few times. Him joining any crew in his last known form would be ridiculous. | ||
terranghost
United States980 Posts
On February 20 2014 22:06 goody153 wrote: Yeah i could still remember BB going toe to toe vs Sengoku just because of stolen DF and his Yami-Yami. Even though sengoku was obviously like 10 times more skilled than BB. And also i remember some cases that not all haki goes through devil fruit users. Especially those who could also use Haki. Like for example during the marineford war didn't Jozu(i forgot the name but one of whitebeards commanders that has the diamond haki) block Mihawks attack(remember that zoro could cut someone using haki even with his range attacks not just close contact attack so it's not impossible that mihawk can also use the same thing) and Mihawk is supposedly the most powerful swordman in the world so you know he not weak. More examples would be Akainu taking haki attacks from Marco and calling it annoying. Also the case where aokiji took a haki attack from whitebeard crew and was not scratched by it. Although he was harmed by Jozu when jozu attacked him and he took the attack by surprise(Although this could also be arguable since haki vs haki is possible and maybe in cases of akainu and aokiji they are just mixing haki on defending). Another example would be the snow woman(Caesars assistant) vs Tashigi where if zoro never helped and allowed Tashigi to attack the snow woman(Caesars assistant) by surprise Tashigi was basically losing one-sidedly, And the snow women did not even have haki just pure blunt fighting skills + abuse of DF. I recently rewatched the marineford arc and I was think about this part in particular. He is the most powerful "swordsman". Not the most powerful fighter. For example kizaru was shown using a sword made out of light. I would argue that kizaru could beat mihawk but if kizaru limited hiself to only swordsplay that mihawk would win. | ||
RenSC2
United States1063 Posts
On February 21 2014 13:42 terranghost wrote: I recently rewatched the marineford arc and I was think about this part in particular. He is the most powerful "swordsman". Not the most powerful fighter. For example kizaru was shown using a sword made out of light. I would argue that kizaru could beat mihawk but if kizaru limited hiself to only swordsplay that mihawk would win. That's one of those unanswerable arguments at this time. We've never seen Mihawk go all-out or even close to it. We're told he's the best "swordsman", but not the most powerful thing, which is Kaido. So where does that put Mihawk in comparison to someone like Kizaru or Rayleigh? They both use swords, but Rayleigh has great Haki and Kizaru has a great DF power along with some haki. So nobody really knows just how good Mihawk really is, except Oda, and it looks like he's going to take his sweet time before he gives us some more real clues. | ||
Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
What does that make Mihawk? Mihawk could be this strong as fuck guy who just doesn't fight if he's not interested. I guess. I guess I was also wrong about Bastille but then again he's damn short so it's an understandable mistake right? | ||
ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 21 2014 14:46 Incognoto wrote: Mihawk and Shanks dueled and Mihawk was the victor (since he's still the best swordsman). Shanks is now a Yonko. What does that make Mihawk? Mihawk could be this strong as fuck guy who just doesn't fight if he's not interested. I guess. I guess I was also wrong about Bastille but then again he's damn short so it's an understandable mistake right? Are you saying that Mihawk beat Shanks because he has the title of the best swordsman? Being the best swordsman doesn't imply that you've never tied or been defeated by anyone else. Being the best swordsman probably isn't some sort of king-of-the-hill tournament. | ||
Shinokuki
United States876 Posts
On February 21 2014 13:42 terranghost wrote: I recently rewatched the marineford arc and I was think about this part in particular. He is the most powerful "swordsman". Not the most powerful fighter. For example kizaru was shown using a sword made out of light. I would argue that kizaru could beat mihawk but if kizaru limited hiself to only swordsplay that mihawk would win. argue with me. Mihawk who dueled with shanks with 2 arms during those days. Their duels can be heard all throughout grandline and would end in tie. Mihawk avoids shanks now ,sayign that shanks only has one arm and it wouldn't be a fair duel. Shanks is YONKO. hmmmm would kizaru really beat mihawk who would be zoro's final boss | ||
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