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On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge...
In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out!
But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential.
It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for.
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On February 11 2014 10:17 gedatsu wrote:
There seems to be some confusion about the term "public knowledge". It means that the knowledge is available to the public. It does not mean that "everyone knows it" (that would be called common knowledge). Obviously the commentator would know more stuff than an average person. It's part of his job to know things. But the information he relays to the audience are not secrets. The audience could already know them by reading the same news that the commentator does.
That said, it seems that the "10 captains" are also quite common knowledge. I do not get the impression that he's dropping some huge knowledge bomb in that scene. It is not "did you know that BB is supported by 10 giant captains? It's true, and Burgess is one of them!"
It is "Burgess! This man is part of the 10 giant captains of the BB fleet!!"
And you know what? It makes no sense at all that the public knows there are 10 captains, but does not know who the 10th captain is. Especially if it's a big shot name like Aokiji.
10th captain is the horse.
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On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for.
10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis
id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank
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On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank
Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander.
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On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander.
Inb4 horse ate a devil fruit and is the 10th commander.
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On February 11 2014 14:57 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander. Inb4 horse ate a devil fruit and is the 10th commander.
what if its similar to the ghost chick and part of the horses soul was manipulating a corpse pretending to be the doctor?
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The reason everyone knows about what the Straw Hats do is because they pulled some pretty big stunts against the government before the timeskip.
Attacking Enie's Lobby? Hell yes, newspaper will cover it. Breaking into Impel Down? Same. Fighting with marines in the open both in the Marineford War and on Sabaody Archipelago? Likewise.
Humiliating the Marine HQ by returning 1 day after the Marineford War? The entire point of that was to get into the newspaper.
Do you know what the Straw Hats did what pretty much nobody knows? What they did on Skypiea, in Alabasta or in the Drum Kingdom.
It's also very likely that what happened on Fishman Island and Punk Hazard will remain a secret to the newspaper.
Because the general public doesn't care about fishmen and Punk Hazard is a restricted area.
Just remember that before everyone had wanted posters even CP9, government secret agents, did not know who is part of their crew. That's why Sogeking is wanted, and Usopp is not.
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Wasn't Impel Down and Enie's Lobby supposed to be kept secret too?
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Man I'm going to buy every volume of OP and drown myself in them in alot of lazy afternoons. I'm going to quote this post when I got them.
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Enies Lobby the story in the newspaper was altered by Aokoji to remove the involvement of Franky's crew and I assume the Marines left out details of the super weapons. The event itself was public knowledge and everyone knew that the Strawhats attacked Enies Lobby.
Impel Down break out the Marines attempted to suppress which seems like the main reason Sengoku resigned from the Marines post War arc. Even if it's not public knowledge people still know about it especially in the pirate world.
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On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander.
Blackbeard pirates aren't missing a commander. The horse isn't a commander, everyone else is. Everyone is making this more complicated than it needs to be.
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Horse is obviously the 10th commander. His name aint no Stronger for nothing.
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On February 12 2014 07:12 ElizarTringov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander. Blackbeard pirates aren't missing a commander. The horse isn't a commander, everyone else is. Everyone is making this more complicated than it needs to be.
Yes they are. Minus Stronger, who is Doc's horse, there are just 9 nakamas. 9/10.
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On February 12 2014 07:53 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 07:12 ElizarTringov wrote:On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander. Blackbeard pirates aren't missing a commander. The horse isn't a commander, everyone else is. Everyone is making this more complicated than it needs to be. Yes they are. Minus Stronger, who is Doc's horse, there are just 9 nakamas. 9/10.
Avalo Pizarro, Catarina Devon, Vasco Shot, Sanjuan Wolf, Shiliew, Laffitte, Doc Q, Jesus Burgess, Van Augur, Marshall D. Teach - That is ten.
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On February 12 2014 09:14 ElizarTringov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 07:53 sc2holar wrote:On February 12 2014 07:12 ElizarTringov wrote:On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander. Blackbeard pirates aren't missing a commander. The horse isn't a commander, everyone else is. Everyone is making this more complicated than it needs to be. Yes they are. Minus Stronger, who is Doc's horse, there are just 9 nakamas. 9/10. Avalo Pizarro, Catarina Devon, Vasco Shot, Sanjuan Wolf, Shiliew, Laffitte, Doc Q, Jesus Burgess, Van Augur, Marshall D. Teach - That is ten.
Its not likely that Blackbeard is a commander himself, he is the leader after all
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On February 12 2014 09:20 DODswe4 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 09:14 ElizarTringov wrote:On February 12 2014 07:53 sc2holar wrote:On February 12 2014 07:12 ElizarTringov wrote:On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander. Blackbeard pirates aren't missing a commander. The horse isn't a commander, everyone else is. Everyone is making this more complicated than it needs to be. Yes they are. Minus Stronger, who is Doc's horse, there are just 9 nakamas. 9/10. Avalo Pizarro, Catarina Devon, Vasco Shot, Sanjuan Wolf, Shiliew, Laffitte, Doc Q, Jesus Burgess, Van Augur, Marshall D. Teach - That is ten. Its not likely that Blackbeard is a commander himself, he is the leader after all
So Blackbeard is not a commander of his own crew?
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I have no idea how Blackbeard's crew is actually managed, but I think people are assuming Blackbeard's crew is being modeled after Whitebeard's crew. In that you have Blackbeard a the top, and then 10 Division Commanders.
For example, in Whitebeard's crew, you had Whitebeard at the top, then 1st Division Commander Marco, 2nd Division Commander Ace, 3rd Division Commander Jozu, etc etc. For Blackbeard's crew, Burgess is the 1st "Fleet Captain" of the Blackbeard Pirates. And according to the most recent chapter, there are 10 "Captains" supporting Blackbeard, Burgess being one. So that means there is one "Captain" unaccounted for.
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On February 12 2014 09:21 ElizarTringov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 09:20 DODswe4 wrote:On February 12 2014 09:14 ElizarTringov wrote:On February 12 2014 07:53 sc2holar wrote:On February 12 2014 07:12 ElizarTringov wrote:On February 11 2014 14:48 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 11 2014 13:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 11 2014 11:51 sc2holar wrote:On February 11 2014 11:15 Chro wrote:
There was a denden mushi during the marinford war that broadcasted alot of things, not only that but it showed 10 members of the crew. If that wasn't enough evidence that it was public knowledge, the yonko's own territory now. Its well known who people are because they have to physically be there to enforce territory. Everyone knows how many are in strawhats crew because of the wanted posters, why not for teach too? Even more past those reasons, buggy was there and is now the leader of the pirate expedition force, he could have told anyone what really happened and information leaked out somewhere. Not to mention theres an invisible man that's a reporter now. Oda has so many ways to let the information out, just accept its public knowledge... In Marineford there were Ten members including Blackbeard. Now there are Ten commanders under him, meaning someone has joined since we last saw his crew escaping from Akainu. Whoever it is, im pretty curious to find out! But those who said earlier that there is no way Kuzan would ever associate himself with someone as "Evil" as blackbeard has got it all wrong, we already know from Burgess and Blackbeards DDM conversation that "The Blue Pheasant" IS associated with Teach in some way or another, and Burgess "Still doesnt trust him". Just like Doflamingo on PH, i would like to know just what is game his right now. He is defenitely not going to fade away from the series, he is a character with too much potential. It would be really cool to see him as a revolutionary, thats kinda what im rooting for. 10th one could be rain swordsman dude whateverhisnameis id say saving all there lives would earn him the rank Rain swordsman is already counted, as is every other Impel Down level 6 escapee when we are counting the members at Marineford. As of now, we only definitively know of 11 people in Blackbeard's crew, and that's including himself, and the horse. So unless the horse is a commander, we are missing a commander. Blackbeard pirates aren't missing a commander. The horse isn't a commander, everyone else is. Everyone is making this more complicated than it needs to be. Yes they are. Minus Stronger, who is Doc's horse, there are just 9 nakamas. 9/10. Avalo Pizarro, Catarina Devon, Vasco Shot, Sanjuan Wolf, Shiliew, Laffitte, Doc Q, Jesus Burgess, Van Augur, Marshall D. Teach - That is ten. Its not likely that Blackbeard is a commander himself, he is the leader after all So Blackbeard is not a commander of his own crew?
Whitebeard was not considered as the other commanders in his crew ( Marco and such ). There's the captain, followed by his commanders.
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wow.. who could it be?
maybe a returning character?
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On February 06 2014 18:37 sumsaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2014 18:10 kirsed wrote:On February 06 2014 17:18 sumsaR wrote:On February 06 2014 13:43 Zooper31 wrote:On February 06 2014 13:41 sumsaR wrote:On February 06 2014 13:40 Zooper31 wrote:On February 06 2014 13:37 Forikorder wrote:On February 06 2014 13:31 sumsaR wrote:
I'd argue it's impossible (or you could choose to read impractical, or even useless, assuming it's technically possible) for things to possess the powers of a non-Zoan DF. The sentience that comes with Zoan DFs is a requirement, as in the case of Spandam's sword. i could see it for some fruits, like the poison fruit Or the Mera Mera for example. It's just fire or poison etc. It just really depends on the type of fruit imo and how it can be used. Burn yourself trying to wield the thing. Impractical, or even impossible. It's hard to actually wield fire. It's not a solid. Non-sentience makes everything tricky, because you can't tell it what to do or how to do it. Have you never seen a flaming sword? Obviously the hilt isn't gonna be on fire or hot. People do that irl even. Heck you could prob get it to shoot fireballs at people when you point it like a gun. There's a difference between a sword's blade aflame and a sword of fire. A sword with the fire logia fruit would be all fire, not just the blade — assuming it was "turned on" always. It's hard to hold a hilt when it's non-solid fire, was my point. And how would you make a non-sentient sword of fire shoot fireballs anyway? Saying "please shoot fireballs" and hoping it can understand you with its non-intelligence and no way of actually hearing you? Impractical. On February 06 2014 14:26 Forikorder wrote:On February 06 2014 13:39 sumsaR wrote:On February 06 2014 13:37 Forikorder wrote:On February 06 2014 13:31 sumsaR wrote:
I'd argue it's impossible (or you could choose to read impractical, or even useless, assuming it's technically possible) for things to possess the powers of a non-Zoan DF. The sentience that comes with Zoan DFs is a requirement, as in the case of Spandam's sword. i could see it for some fruits, like the poison fruit Sure, if you want to poison yourself. Impractical, in other words. or wear gloves or jsut feed it to the blade and affix a hilt on later if needed Magellan's poison pretty much corroded most things it came into contact with if I remember correctly. Gloves wouldn't help you, nor would you have any control whatsoever of how powerful the poison would be or what kind of form it took (maybe it's generating a constant stream of wast amounts of poison?). Impractical. The sword doesn't have to become completely aflame. You're thinking of something that looks like Kuwabara's sword or something. But if a sword ate the fruit there isn't any reason part of the sword could be fire and part of the sword be the hilt or something. I mean every fruit power we are referencing could be controlled like that. Eg Ace wasn't all fire or all human. There's no way of knowing that. And you have no way of controlling what part of the sword is affected and what's not. The hilt could be flame and the blade not. It's a non-sentient inanimate object that decides, you see.
Haki user can grab logias. So why would someone with haki not be able to hold a fire sword. Also remember this is the OP relm theres thing that is called common sense that doesnt seem to appy most of the time.
On February 10 2014 22:10 Mataza wrote:
I'm a bit disappointed this hasn't been mentioned yet.
If Aokiji is part of the Blackbeard's crew now, it is because Aokiji is acting as a double agent, a spy, a saboteur.
Pretty sure he even said that he left the Marines so he can do things he couldn't do before. For example working undercover in a pirate crew.
Why that wouldn't be common knowledge is easy to explain.
It's been at most 2 years. News in OP travel either by newspaper or mouth to mouth. Considering 99% of people travel by ship, and that rumors spread the exact same way as news, it would take pretty much forever for any news to become common knowledge in the entire world.
On the other hand I don't think the World government would like it if the newspaper printed news of ex-admirals becoming pirates.
Kuzan working with BB(to aquire information to use against BB or similar reason) is in my opinion plausible.
Not saying I think kuzan is undercover in BB's crew but...
Just saying the govt and marines dont always seem to have full abilility to edit what they want from papers.
Otherwise it wouldn't have been printed about luffy returning to marineford.
And plus there is still abalsolm who will report whatever he damn well pleases.
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