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XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
February 12 2014 07:56 GMT
#13441
Break this week?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
February 12 2014 07:57 GMT
#13442
On February 12 2014 16:56 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Break this week?

yup
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
February 12 2014 08:40 GMT
#13443
On February 12 2014 13:14 terranghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 18:37 sumsaR wrote:
On February 06 2014 18:10 kirsed wrote:
On February 06 2014 17:18 sumsaR wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:43 Zooper31 wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:41 sumsaR wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:40 Zooper31 wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:37 Forikorder wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:31 sumsaR wrote:
I'd argue it's impossible (or you could choose to read impractical, or even useless, assuming it's technically possible) for things to possess the powers of a non-Zoan DF. The sentience that comes with Zoan DFs is a requirement, as in the case of Spandam's sword.

i could see it for some fruits, like the poison fruit


Or the Mera Mera for example. It's just fire or poison etc. It just really depends on the type of fruit imo and how it can be used.

Burn yourself trying to wield the thing. Impractical, or even impossible. It's hard to actually wield fire. It's not a solid.

Non-sentience makes everything tricky, because you can't tell it what to do or how to do it.


Have you never seen a flaming sword? Obviously the hilt isn't gonna be on fire or hot. People do that irl even. Heck you could prob get it to shoot fireballs at people when you point it like a gun.


There's a difference between a sword's blade aflame and a sword of fire. A sword with the fire logia fruit would be all fire, not just the blade — assuming it was "turned on" always. It's hard to hold a hilt when it's non-solid fire, was my point. And how would you make a non-sentient sword of fire shoot fireballs anyway? Saying "please shoot fireballs" and hoping it can understand you with its non-intelligence and no way of actually hearing you? Impractical.

On February 06 2014 14:26 Forikorder wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:39 sumsaR wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:37 Forikorder wrote:
On February 06 2014 13:31 sumsaR wrote:
I'd argue it's impossible (or you could choose to read impractical, or even useless, assuming it's technically possible) for things to possess the powers of a non-Zoan DF. The sentience that comes with Zoan DFs is a requirement, as in the case of Spandam's sword.

i could see it for some fruits, like the poison fruit

Sure, if you want to poison yourself. Impractical, in other words.

or wear gloves or jsut feed it to the blade and affix a hilt on later if needed

Magellan's poison pretty much corroded most things it came into contact with if I remember correctly. Gloves wouldn't help you, nor would you have any control whatsoever of how powerful the poison would be or what kind of form it took (maybe it's generating a constant stream of wast amounts of poison?). Impractical.



The sword doesn't have to become completely aflame. You're thinking of something that looks like Kuwabara's sword or something. But if a sword ate the fruit there isn't any reason part of the sword could be fire and part of the sword be the hilt or something. I mean every fruit power we are referencing could be controlled like that. Eg Ace wasn't all fire or all human.

There's no way of knowing that. And you have no way of controlling what part of the sword is affected and what's not. The hilt could be flame and the blade not. It's a non-sentient inanimate object that decides, you see.



Haki user can grab logias. So why would someone with haki not be able to hold a fire sword. Also remember this is the OP relm theres thing that is called common sense that doesnt seem to appy most of the time.

If you're able to hold the flame without taking damage it's probably not too effective when attacking either.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 12 2014 08:45 GMT
#13444
Where's Flamewheel's chapter?

I can't accept a reality in which I have to write 3 exams in 2 weeks and one of the weeks doesn't have an One Piece chapter.
Life is so cruel.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 12 2014 09:27 GMT
#13445
Yeah, no chapter is sad. At least Oda-sama is taking a nice rest?
maru lover forever
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 12 2014 09:28 GMT
#13446
On February 12 2014 17:45 Mataza wrote:
Where's Flamewheel's chapter?

I can't accept a reality in which I have to write 3 exams in 2 weeks and one of the weeks doesn't have an One Piece chapter.
Life is so cruel.


Bwahahaha, German first world academia problem. Try a U.S. university, where you write all your exams in one week! :D
(Though those at the university I attended were ridiculously, embarrassingly easy)
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
February 12 2014 15:22 GMT
#13447
D:
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 12 2014 16:04 GMT
#13448
On a side note, I noticed that this http://www.mangareader.net/103-2602-16/one-piece/chapter-495.html
seems to be the first use of haoshuko haki by Luffy. He makes a bull foam at the mouth and faint.

If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 16:26:37
February 12 2014 16:25 GMT
#13449
On February 13 2014 01:04 Mataza wrote:
On a side note, I noticed that this http://www.mangareader.net/103-2602-16/one-piece/chapter-495.html
seems to be the first use of haoshuko haki by Luffy. He makes a bull foam at the mouth and faint.


It is. People likened it to what Shanks did to the sea king that took his arm off.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 18:30:45
February 12 2014 18:13 GMT
#13450
While iirc the first time use of Haki in OP was from the mini island with the 2 pirate giants, they called it a different name. Ill go dig for the pic.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2236-7/one-piece/chapter-129.html
ok that doesnt look like haki now that i read it again....more like a shockwave attack

well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
February 12 2014 19:16 GMT
#13451
On February 13 2014 03:13 BurningSera wrote:
well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!

I'd be surprised if he didn't.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#13452
On February 13 2014 03:13 BurningSera wrote:
While iirc the first time use of Haki in OP was from the mini island with the 2 pirate giants, they called it a different name. Ill go dig for the pic.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2236-7/one-piece/chapter-129.html
ok that doesnt look like haki now that i read it again....more like a shockwave attack

well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!


Yeah that doesn't look like Haki, but it also looks like a seriously dangerous ability. Looks weird as well.

Some people have really weird abilities without Devil fruits. Like Sanji's diable jambe or Luffy's Red Hawk. There was some thunder swordsman (ally of Whitebeard) at Marineford that could also apparently use lightning (though we all know he didn't eat the lightning fruit, God save us)(LOL).
maru lover forever
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18538 Posts
February 12 2014 21:27 GMT
#13453
On February 13 2014 03:13 BurningSera wrote:
While iirc the first time use of Haki in OP was from the mini island with the 2 pirate giants, they called it a different name. Ill go dig for the pic.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2236-7/one-piece/chapter-129.html
ok that doesnt look like haki now that i read it again....more like a shockwave attack

well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!


oh he pretty much had some concept of haki in mind when he drew shanks' haki
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
February 12 2014 22:38 GMT
#13454
On February 13 2014 03:13 BurningSera wrote:
While iirc the first time use of Haki in OP was from the mini island with the 2 pirate giants, they called it a different name. Ill go dig for the pic.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2236-7/one-piece/chapter-129.html
ok that doesnt look like haki now that i read it again....more like a shockwave attack

well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!

On another note, on the page before this one the giants say 'only the great serpent soaked in blood can withstand our attacks', wonder what they're talking about D:
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 00:19:34
February 12 2014 22:59 GMT
#13455
On February 13 2014 05:17 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:13 BurningSera wrote:
While iirc the first time use of Haki in OP was from the mini island with the 2 pirate giants, they called it a different name. Ill go dig for the pic.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2236-7/one-piece/chapter-129.html
ok that doesnt look like haki now that i read it again....more like a shockwave attack

well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!


Yeah that doesn't look like Haki, but it also looks like a seriously dangerous ability. Looks weird as well.

Some people have really weird abilities without Devil fruits. Like Sanji's diable jambe or Luffy's Red Hawk. There was some thunder swordsman (ally of Whitebeard) at Marineford that could also apparently use lightning (though we all know he didn't eat the lightning fruit, God save us)(LOL).

He is Thunder Lord McGuy

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 13 2014 04:42 GMT
#13456
On February 13 2014 07:59 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 05:17 Incognoto wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:13 BurningSera wrote:
While iirc the first time use of Haki in OP was from the mini island with the 2 pirate giants, they called it a different name. Ill go dig for the pic.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2236-7/one-piece/chapter-129.html
ok that doesnt look like haki now that i read it again....more like a shockwave attack

well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!


Yeah that doesn't look like Haki, but it also looks like a seriously dangerous ability. Looks weird as well.

Some people have really weird abilities without Devil fruits. Like Sanji's diable jambe or Luffy's Red Hawk. There was some thunder swordsman (ally of Whitebeard) at Marineford that could also apparently use lightning (though we all know he didn't eat the lightning fruit, God save us)(LOL).

He is Thunder Lord McGuy

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

was he in the manga? i definently dont remember him at all
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
February 13 2014 04:44 GMT
#13457
On February 13 2014 13:42 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:59 Mensol wrote:
On February 13 2014 05:17 Incognoto wrote:
On February 13 2014 03:13 BurningSera wrote:
While iirc the first time use of Haki in OP was from the mini island with the 2 pirate giants, they called it a different name. Ill go dig for the pic.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-2236-7/one-piece/chapter-129.html
ok that doesnt look like haki now that i read it again....more like a shockwave attack

well, shank's is the 'first', but i dont quite believe that oda had that in mind yet!


Yeah that doesn't look like Haki, but it also looks like a seriously dangerous ability. Looks weird as well.

Some people have really weird abilities without Devil fruits. Like Sanji's diable jambe or Luffy's Red Hawk. There was some thunder swordsman (ally of Whitebeard) at Marineford that could also apparently use lightning (though we all know he didn't eat the lightning fruit, God save us)(LOL).

He is Thunder Lord McGuy

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

was he in the manga? i definently dont remember him at all

Yes
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
February 13 2014 05:07 GMT
#13458
Don't forget Fire Fox Kinemon and Brook's Ice attack
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 13 2014 06:37 GMT
#13459
On February 13 2014 14:07 GettingIt wrote:
Don't forget Fire Fox Kinemon and Brook's Ice attack

the ice is his DF though
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
February 13 2014 07:05 GMT
#13460
On February 13 2014 15:37 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 14:07 GettingIt wrote:
Don't forget Fire Fox Kinemon and Brook's Ice attack

the ice is his DF though


No it isn't. His DF is his bone body essentially, making him undead and the use of some soul based abilities like when he goes into a ghost form. The ice is just part of his sword attack, like Sanji and his fire kick.
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