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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here. If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers. If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On January 31 2014 08:32 Slaughter wrote: I wouldn't call Buggy or his crew strong. None of the escaped convicts were "named" or known characters. Whitebeard seemed to recognise some of them though. That should give them some kind of credence, or atleast the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On January 31 2014 07:30 Sentenal wrote: More like there is no point talking about it when Oda has already said Enel isn't the strongest. red herring, even if oda said enel isn't the strongest it does not have anything to do with my argument about how nobody can touch Enel when he's flying in orbit and shoots orbital strikes from outside of everybody's range. So what if Enel isn't strong enough to fist fight it out with even luffy pre time skip. it has nothing to do with my argument. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 31 2014 08:57 rei wrote: red herring, even if oda said enel isn't the strongest it does not have anything to do with my argument about how nobody can touch Enel when he's flying in orbit and shoots orbital strikes from outside of everybody's range. So what if Enel isn't strong enough to fist fight it out with even luffy pre time skip. it has nothing to do with my argument. You are basically saying Oda is wrong, which is why no one takes you seriously. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
The world government has the resources to stop Enel easy. If they knew about him, they could coat ships and soldiers in rubber or their scientists could even know about faraday's cage or other ways to resist lightning. Air travel in One Piece is a fact, since there are sky islands like weatheria that float freely without any cloud ocean connected to them. If Enel was dangerous and the World Government knew about him, it would only be a matter of time until they dealt with him. All the resources to beat Enel are already in their possession. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
Or maybe the momosuke DF gives him the dragon ball Z Shenron powers, meaning he would have the power to grant a person his wish http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Shenron :D | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On January 31 2014 09:24 Mataza wrote: I liked it when rei wasn't talking about Enel in every 4th post of this thread. The world government has the resources to stop Enel easy. If they knew about him, they could coat ships and soldiers in rubber or their scientists could even know about faraday's cage or other ways to resist lightning. Air travel in One Piece is a fact, since there are sky islands like weatheria that float freely without any cloud ocean connected to them. If Enel was dangerous and the World Government knew about him, it would only be a matter of time until they dealt with him. All the resources to beat Enel are already in their possession. I never initiates any Enel discussions, I only join after someone else starts it. I put together this argument 2 years ago, and till today you guys still can't let go of it. I appreciate you making an effort to have a logical discussion instead of dismiss it by putting up straw man / red herring fallacies. There was someone i forgot who it was, mentioned something about to combat Enel all you had to do is the wear rubber suits. and or slap enel's face with a rubber dildo ect, or even shoot Enel with rubber bullets. I would also think the world government can deal with Enel, since they can make laser beam robots and rockets they should have enough technology to do space travel. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On January 31 2014 09:12 Yhamm wrote: this Enel discussion is really annoying Yeah I agree | ||
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
On January 31 2014 10:38 rei wrote: I never initiates any Enel discussions, I only join after someone else starts it. I put together this argument 2 years ago, and till today you guys still can't let go of it. I appreciate you making an effort to have a logical discussion instead of dismiss it by putting up straw man / red herring fallacies. There was someone i forgot who it was, mentioned something about to combat Enel all you had to do is the wear rubber suits. and or slap enel's face with a rubber dildo ect, or even shoot Enel with rubber bullets. I would also think the world government can deal with Enel, since they can make laser beam robots and rockets they should have enough technology to do space travel. Didn't you already refute your own argument earlier with what you said about Issho? He pulls down Enel's ship, while wearing a rubber suit and Haki's him to death. GG? Or just has Luffy on standby :p I guess Enel could try to dodge fights forever, but that's true for a bunch of Logias and doesn't make him, in particular, overpowered. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Need ourselves an entire One Piece subform so we can have multiple threads. Then we can have the following threads: - Latest chapter discussion thread - Enel discussion thread - Hypothetical-battles thread And it will be all good. ---- On the latest interesting discussion though: Yeah Buggy's crew is basically grand line fodder now instead of East Blue fodder, but enough fodder makes a difference. Buggy could have attracted more strength to his pirate crew, and for all we know just because Oda didn't name most of them doesn't mean they're nobodies. There were already like 50 new names in that one arc. I can't even name another of Whitebeard's supporting allied captains off the top of my head except Oars Junior. Oh and Buggy is going to totally have conqueror's haki. Calling that awesome happening up front. (EDIT: Oh and Squallo...or whatever. The prick who stabbed whitebeard in probably one of the dumbest scenes in One Piece...like freaking seriously, even the worst gags out of the Foxxy pirate arc made more sense than Squallo's betrayal. It wasn't well set up, it didn't have any pay off, etc etc. Like, here's an infinitely more awesome reason for Squallo to stab Whitebeard: He didn't like Whitebeard. Suddenly, holy shit the reasoning makes sense. If whatever bullshit Akainu said was good enough for Squallo to stab his idol with little to no evidence, I imagine Akainu can talk Shanks out of being a pirate and picking up a life of heavy metal guitarist.) | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On January 31 2014 12:05 bittman wrote: (EDIT: Oh and Squallo...or whatever. The prick who stabbed whitebeard in probably one of the dumbest scenes in One Piece...like freaking seriously, even the worst gags out of the Foxxy pirate arc made more sense than Squallo's betrayal. It wasn't well set up, it didn't have any pay off, etc etc. Like, here's an infinitely more awesome reason for Squallo to stab Whitebeard: He didn't like Whitebeard. Suddenly, holy shit the reasoning makes sense. If whatever bullshit Akainu said was good enough for Squallo to stab his idol with little to no evidence, I imagine Akainu can talk Shanks out of being a pirate and picking up a life of heavy metal guitarist.) Sure, it was kinda stupid of him to believe anything Akainu said, but at the same time I understand how it came to be. First of all, Squallo hated Roger very very much. Ace was revealed to be Roger's biological son. The marines purposely only attacked non-Whitebeard crew. From a confused and emotional perspective, a quick glance on the situation without having the mental stability to reason for why that was, it's easy to see how he was swayed by Akainu's lies. People get irrational when they become emotional (in his case, rage/confusion/a sense of betrayal etc), and therefore also rash. It's not too unreasonable to think he wasn't in a calm enough state of mind to actually ask or confront Whitebeard about the (at face-value) "facts" Akainu had opened up his eyes to. At that point, he had already made up his mind, and saw no point in giving Whitebeard a chance to defend himself by being openly hostile (that being his only chance, or whatever). Akainu/Sengoku (it seems it was the latter's idea) played on his hate of Roger to get an emotional response and force-feed him their at face-value reasonable lies, so he'd act in a way that would benefit them. In the least it'd cause some conflict, even if he'd not succeed in hurting Whitebeard. | ||
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
If he had been told weeks in advance, confronted whitebeard and still not believed him and then stabbed him behind his back later, i can make it work. But it really was like they put a retarded, braindead fish in OP to kill off whitebeard with stupidity. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
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gedatsu
1286 Posts
On January 31 2014 08:57 rei wrote: red herring, even if oda said enel isn't the strongest it does not have anything to do with my argument about how nobody can touch Enel when he's flying in orbit and shoots orbital strikes from outside of everybody's range. So what if Enel isn't strong enough to fist fight it out with even luffy pre time skip. it has nothing to do with my argument. Fujitora or Blackbeard can easily take him out of orbit. | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On January 31 2014 20:26 sc2holar wrote: Cant believe some people seriously have such a hard-on for the lightning logia. its pretty much Kizaru's Pika Pika no Mi's weaker brother, the same way the mera mera no mi<magma fruit and the ice fruit>snow fruit. I wish it was a more of an electricity feely fruit than a lighting one maybe that way it wouldnt have that retardedly long radius | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 31 2014 20:26 gedatsu wrote: Fujitora or Blackbeard can easily take him out of orbit. The fact that they haven't done so shows just how afraid they are | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On January 31 2014 20:57 GettingIt wrote: I wish it was a more of an electricity feely fruit than a lighting one maybe that way it wouldnt have that retardedly long radius Well the thing is that about 50% of all Logia users are elements wich do not conduct electricity, so he would be unable to touch many big shots in the "infinite blue". The Admirals would fodderize him. | ||
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