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On January 30 2014 21:38 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 17:53 GettingIt wrote:On January 30 2014 16:42 shirtman wrote:
I wonder if Mingo gets defeated / killed in this arc. He's obviously a top villain and right now the main objective but maybe Oda just wants to show off the Strawhats in the new world and set up Big Mom / Kaidou / Luffy's road to a Yonko.
So there might be a huge showdown... with everybody walking away. Just think of all the players on the Island going all out. I don't think that we need another battle royal after the arena. I can imagine Mingo retreating to show up at a later point. His crew is shown a lot and we don't know Mingo's goal. He's just collecting ressources / influence on the island, right? I honestly think Dofla needs to be defeated here to make room for the Yonkou especially since hes been introduced as the stepping stone to Kaidou. It also make sense since Fujitora is there and more than willing to take him away. Like I said before the illegal activities of Dofla will probably be exposed to the marines in this very arc so Fujitora will have the excuse he needs to take him down (but since hes luffy's opponent all he has to do is take him to Impel Down). As much as I love Dofla...unfortunately I agree. He's going down this arc because he needs to be kicked out of Dressrosa for any sort of happy ending. That said: it won't be the last we see of him. I have a feeling that even with this arc Doflamingo will be some sort of player. Not a shichibukai or as big a player, but I'd love to see him alongside the other Tenryuubito at the Reverie or something along those lines. One thing that's bothering me about Dofla at the moment is that his crew members have noted that he will be the man that will become the pirate king. Sure Dofla controls power and a lot of the underground, but it's pretty clear he's not really in competition with Yonkou. And most notably, he's just sort of sat on an island for 10 years. So what's bothering me is: what's his true goal. If it is to become pirate king, simply being the most powerful broker was never going to be enough. I have a feeling we're going to get something Crocodile-esque. Like there's something else he's working on that would tip the balance in his favour in an enormous way. ...but maybe I'm reading too much into it and he expects to be the pirate king by being the guy pulling the strings behind the scenes. It just doesn't quite seem right to me though.
Its just a hunch but I think his true goal is related to Momosuke and the reason he wants him back.
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On January 30 2014 16:42 shirtman wrote:
I wonder if Mingo gets defeated / killed in this arc. He's obviously a top villain and right now the main objective but maybe Oda just wants to show off the Strawhats in the new world and set up Big Mom / Kaidou / Luffy's road to a Yonko.
So there might be a huge showdown... with everybody walking away. Just think of all the players on the Island going all out. I don't think that we need another battle royal after the arena. I can imagine Mingo retreating to show up at a later point. His crew is shown a lot and we don't know Mingo's goal. He's just collecting ressources / influence on the island, right?
Luffy is shown time and time again to be similar to Roger. Now we haven't seen it yet so it doesn't mean its not.
All of the yonkou seem to have areas of influence and they just sit in the middle while their minions do all the work. Even if Big Mam is on the ship that is after Sanji's group that seems to be an exception. I don't see Luffy or Roger as the type of person that would just sit in the middle and chill out.
So even if he becomes a yonkou it will not be the traditional type.
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On January 30 2014 23:59 GettingIt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2014 21:38 bittman wrote:On January 30 2014 17:53 GettingIt wrote:On January 30 2014 16:42 shirtman wrote:
I wonder if Mingo gets defeated / killed in this arc. He's obviously a top villain and right now the main objective but maybe Oda just wants to show off the Strawhats in the new world and set up Big Mom / Kaidou / Luffy's road to a Yonko.
So there might be a huge showdown... with everybody walking away. Just think of all the players on the Island going all out. I don't think that we need another battle royal after the arena. I can imagine Mingo retreating to show up at a later point. His crew is shown a lot and we don't know Mingo's goal. He's just collecting ressources / influence on the island, right? I honestly think Dofla needs to be defeated here to make room for the Yonkou especially since hes been introduced as the stepping stone to Kaidou. It also make sense since Fujitora is there and more than willing to take him away. Like I said before the illegal activities of Dofla will probably be exposed to the marines in this very arc so Fujitora will have the excuse he needs to take him down (but since hes luffy's opponent all he has to do is take him to Impel Down). As much as I love Dofla...unfortunately I agree. He's going down this arc because he needs to be kicked out of Dressrosa for any sort of happy ending. That said: it won't be the last we see of him. I have a feeling that even with this arc Doflamingo will be some sort of player. Not a shichibukai or as big a player, but I'd love to see him alongside the other Tenryuubito at the Reverie or something along those lines. One thing that's bothering me about Dofla at the moment is that his crew members have noted that he will be the man that will become the pirate king. Sure Dofla controls power and a lot of the underground, but it's pretty clear he's not really in competition with Yonkou. And most notably, he's just sort of sat on an island for 10 years. So what's bothering me is: what's his true goal. If it is to become pirate king, simply being the most powerful broker was never going to be enough. I have a feeling we're going to get something Crocodile-esque. Like there's something else he's working on that would tip the balance in his favour in an enormous way. ...but maybe I'm reading too much into it and he expects to be the pirate king by being the guy pulling the strings behind the scenes. It just doesn't quite seem right to me though. Its just a hunch but I think his true goal is related to Momosuke and the reason he wants him back.
In the anime whenever momo has trouble with his devil fruit you see Dofla.
Could it be the DF are manufactured to answer to dofla? not kaido, but dofla. so this would be dofla's master plan of taking out kaido and becoming a yonko himself. have all of kaidos followers eat the powerful DF and then, since dofla is the actual puppet master, he has a huge army which he uses to conquoer everything. he'd be pissed at law for destroying SAD not because he's afraid of kaido, but because law is throwing a wrench into his master plan.
for all we know, law might even be aware of the situation, though that doesn't matter in this arc since he's getting revenge for Kora-san.
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That would be quite a twist.
It only happened once or twice in the manga though.
I'm not sure I remember it right, but I think Big Mom wants Caesar, too.
Would be too fitting if Big Mom has found out about the possible mind control of the fruits too and wants Caesar so she can take over Kaidou's army and gain a huge advantage over other Yonkous.
Just remembered Caesar has stolen from Big Mom and that's the reason she is after him. Reality is so cruel.
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kora-san?
Who is that did I miss something.
That doesn't sound like a bad theory about mingo.
The harpy lady even said he was aiming to be the pirate king and what would he have to gain by making a yonkou stronger if his goal was the be the pirate king.
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On January 31 2014 02:39 terranghost wrote:
kora-san?
Who is that did I miss something.
Someone related to Law and DD. The reason Law is pissed at DD in the first place, people suspect. How we don't know. DD assumably killed this Kora.
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On January 31 2014 02:39 terranghost wrote:
kora-san?
Who is that did I miss something.
That doesn't sound like a bad theory about mingo.
The harpy lady even said he was aiming to be the pirate king and what would he have to gain by making a yonkou stronger if his goal was the be the pirate king.
noones been able to get to Raftel, probably requires alot of power to get it so hes using the smiles as funds to amass enough power to get to it or something
all the yonkous are probably doing similar trying to mass enough power to get to Raftel
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On January 31 2014 02:39 terranghost wrote:
kora-san?
Who is that did I miss something.
That doesn't sound like a bad theory about mingo.
The harpy lady even said he was aiming to be the pirate king and what would he have to gain by making a yonkou stronger if his goal was the be the pirate king.
Right before Law passed out he said something about Kora-san. People think he/she was the previous Dofla executive that occupied the Heart Seat in Dofla's court. I would link you the chapter where it happens but I forgot which one.
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Law mentioned corazon/kora-san while he confronted DD on the bridge. I am pretty sure corazon is dead, the way Law talked.
He said he was willing to die if it meant he could hurt DD.
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I feel stupid now I remember him saying that now
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I dont think Doflamingo is strong. I still dont know how Law lost against him.
Remember Marineford war, he cant even beat Crocodile. I think he might be weaker than Hody Jones.
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Bait harder.
How about:
I think Kaidou is the chest guy from East Blue who lives with all the weird animals. He prefers animals to people, Kaidou is called Kaidou of the 1000 beasts, coincidence much?
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On January 31 2014 02:56 Mensol wrote:
I dont think Doflamingo is strong. I still dont know how Law lost against him.
Remember Marineford war, he cant even beat Crocodile. I think he might be weaker than Hody Jones.
Is this a deliberate troll post?
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On January 31 2014 02:56 Mensol wrote:
I dont think Doflamingo is strong. I still dont know how Law lost against him.
Remember Marineford war, he cant even beat Crocodile. I think he might be weaker than Hody Jones.
What is that supposed to mean? Crocodile is OP.
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Mensol you should stop with the obvious troll post, it gets old after the 10th time.
People should also stop beating the dead Enel horse unless we have another 3 week break and people have wirthdrawal symptoms.
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This level is just sad, you need to at least make a convincing logical argument that others can't refute unless they make some effort and critically think about it a little. Like 1) Enel has observation haki that extends 10km, 2) and his lightning attack range is 10km, 3) he has a spaceship that puts him easily anywhere outside of the range of anyone capable of defeating him if they get close enough.And based on these 3 premises which are facts of one piece that can't be refuted, argument is Enel is untouchable while he can freely nuke people with thunderbolt of god. Note how asnsensation said it's a dead horse? yet nobody here ever offered a counter argument based on how my argument is wrong, all they do is use red herring fallacy to distract from my argument and think they have won, or ad hominem attack on me by calling it trolling and even get so low as to report me to banlings to try to get me banned.
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welcome back rei-senpai *_*
If someone asks me which devil fruit do you want to eat from one piece, i'd say Goro Goro No Mi without thinking. It's still the strongest devil fruit in the op world.
You can't do shit when someone hears and nukes you from 10km away.
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On January 31 2014 03:48 rei wrote:
This level is just sad, you need to at least make a convincing logical argument that others can't refute unless they make some effort and critically think about it a little. Like 1) Enel has observation haki that extends 10km, 2) and his lightning attack range is 10km, 3) he has a spaceship that puts him easily anywhere outside of the range of anyone capable of defeating him if they get close enough.And based on these 3 premises which are facts of one piece that can't be refuted, argument is Enel is untouchable while he can freely nuke people with thunderbolt of god. Note how asnsensation said it's a dead horse? yet nobody here ever offered a counter argument based on how my argument is wrong, all they do is use red herring fallacy to distract from my argument and think they have won, or ad hominem attack on me by calling it trolling and even get so low as to report me to banlings to try to get me banned.
Fujitora would rape him, assuming his abilities are what I think they are. Could just bring his space ship crashing to the surface. Plus his lightning is weak, 0 kills, can't even kill old men and cripples.
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without his observation haki's range and space travel to complement and just goro goro no mi alone won't be that invincible.
If i were to have a devil fruit i would go with Suke Suke no Mi.
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On January 31 2014 04:08 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2014 03:48 rei wrote:
This level is just sad, you need to at least make a convincing logical argument that others can't refute unless they make some effort and critically think about it a little. Like 1) Enel has observation haki that extends 10km, 2) and his lightning attack range is 10km, 3) he has a spaceship that puts him easily anywhere outside of the range of anyone capable of defeating him if they get close enough.And based on these 3 premises which are facts of one piece that can't be refuted, argument is Enel is untouchable while he can freely nuke people with thunderbolt of god. Note how asnsensation said it's a dead horse? yet nobody here ever offered a counter argument based on how my argument is wrong, all they do is use red herring fallacy to distract from my argument and think they have won, or ad hominem attack on me by calling it trolling and even get so low as to report me to banlings to try to get me banned. Fujitora would rape him, assuming his abilities are what I think they are. Could just bring his space ship crashing to the surface. Plus his lightning is weak, 0 kills, can't even kill old men and cripples.
Whitebeard didn't kill anyone mayne, he belongs with the East blue trash. Lucky Roo killed that bandit trash once though right? Clearly Lucky Roo > Everyone. Also Fujji couldn't even kill Law or Zoro. WTF is he gonna do against GOD?!?
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