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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 30 2014 01:08 GMT
#12901
It looks like Kinemon peaced to run off to do his own thing, otherwise I would have said it was likely.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
January 30 2014 01:31 GMT
#12902
So far only luffy has has turned into powerless goo when touching seastone.
However I faintly remember that touching Seastone is like being completely submerged in water, rather than just touching a water surface.

Weirdly enough being underwater seems to affect Luffy different to others, probably because he is a paramecia fruit user.
He can stretch underwater but loses all his strength(or he is very dramatic about it).
Seastone seems to turn his body normal, or he could simply be pushed through seastone grates, fences or handcuffs by other people.
By that logic one should theoretical be able to cut Buggy into slices underwater, but not while touching seastone(or you could just do that to escape seastone prisons like Luffy).

Strangely Buggy, Luffy and Alvida have the only Paramecia Fruits so far that change their bodies without active use of the fruit.
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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
January 30 2014 01:38 GMT
#12903
On January 30 2014 10:31 Mataza wrote:
Strangely Buggy, Luffy and Alvida have the only Paramecia Fruits so far that change their bodies without active use of the fruit.

Though some have (incorrectly in my opinion) argued that Buggy's fruit needs reactive and conscious effort to split, which could mean he'd not be able to do it under water like Luffy's body was stretched.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
January 30 2014 02:57 GMT
#12904
On January 30 2014 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 01:42 Chro wrote:
Flag fruit is OP, he can make any material into clothing. Seastone, metal, and then have it make whatever shape he wants. Franky gets inside his machines, this guy would wear it. If the object keeps is properties then anything on this guy could be a gun or weapon. The roses on his pants could all be shotguns for all we know.

Which makes me think, if DF can use strings to connect anything and this guy can make anything into cloth like material. If they get together can they sew together pretty much anything?

Pica could be anything at this point, oda just made a flag-flag fruit and people want to say what pica is. It could make complete sense or it could be the dumbest thing you've heard of.

I highly doubt that would be possible with seastone, since the second he touched it, it would sap his power to turn things into flags.


He doesn't have to touch the seastone directly it could be like smokers weapon. Only part of it is seastone and he just touches the nonseastone part but since the seastone is on the weapon it gets affected too.

Although I seriously doubt diamante uses seastone. Just seems to be against his character.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 30 2014 03:20 GMT
#12905
On January 30 2014 10:05 shell wrote:
maybe kinemon will solo pika, luffy vs DD and Zoro versus Fujitora

He is powerfull enough for DD to notice him and talk about him so maybe he will get to fight pika and tell Luffy and the rest to go ahead

what do you guys think ?


That was my guess originally, but then I would be flat out ignoring a lot of other players in the castle. Weaker, sure, but notable. Baby 5 and the lightning dude notably. Sure they're nothing on Luffy or Zoro (or probably even Kinemon, though we haven't seen him in a tough fight yet), but they're still there. Might be for Viola to deal with perhaps?

That said, I don't think things will be so straight forward knowing Oda. It could be a 2v1 vs Doflamingo and Futijora nicks off. Or it could be a 3v2 after they beat Pika. Perhaps the revolutionaries attack at some point and Sabo fights alongside Luffy vs Dofla.

Maybe Doflamingo pulls off a mask and goes "I was Kaidou all along. I'll catch you next time Mugiwara!" and flies away.

Ok my real bet at the moment is this:
- Luffy (and whatever is left of Law) fight Doflamingo. He wins.
- Zoro and Kinemon fight Futijora. Kinemon is a bit outclassed, but Zoro with that bit of help is able to fight to a draw. When dofla gets beaten Futijora decides to leave.
- Ussop is totally going to get turned into a toy. He'll somehow win after being turned into a toy.
- I have no idea who will beat Trebol. Maybe one of the toys that gets re-humaned will be super strong. Or just gang up on him.
- Sabo will win the battle royale. The devil fruit was a fake / was taken away / somethinglikethat.
- Somehow Burgess does not lose in a way that he looks weak. It'll be a technicality.

These are my current predictions.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
January 30 2014 03:25 GMT
#12906
^ Franky going to beat Trebol
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 30 2014 03:30 GMT
#12907
On January 30 2014 12:25 Mensol wrote:
^ Franky going to beat Trebol everyone

CUTE MAKES RIGHT
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 04:05:23
January 30 2014 04:05 GMT
#12908
Yeah probably right with Franky. Just have an odd feeling him taking care of lots of executives will be what Oda gives him, and Trebol will get taken out in a more unusual way than such as straight up fight. There is also a vice-admiral at Franky's location at the moment. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that will be his fight.

...I'm also really hoping Robin gets a legit fight for once. She really hasn't had one outside of Enel's fat army commander. And even that wasn't really close on account of power levels.

And if it was Shogun Franky I'd agree with the above =P
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
January 30 2014 04:35 GMT
#12909
I predict that Doflamingo does get defeated while at the same time his nefarious business gets revealed to the marines by the former toys and thus Mingo is taken into custody.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 04:42:16
January 30 2014 04:39 GMT
#12910
On January 30 2014 11:57 terranghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
On January 30 2014 01:42 Chro wrote:
Flag fruit is OP, he can make any material into clothing. Seastone, metal, and then have it make whatever shape he wants. Franky gets inside his machines, this guy would wear it. If the object keeps is properties then anything on this guy could be a gun or weapon. The roses on his pants could all be shotguns for all we know.

Which makes me think, if DF can use strings to connect anything and this guy can make anything into cloth like material. If they get together can they sew together pretty much anything?

Pica could be anything at this point, oda just made a flag-flag fruit and people want to say what pica is. It could make complete sense or it could be the dumbest thing you've heard of.

I highly doubt that would be possible with seastone, since the second he touched it, it would sap his power to turn things into flags.


He doesn't have to touch the seastone directly it could be like smokers weapon. Only part of it is seastone and he just touches the nonseastone part but since the seastone is on the weapon it gets affected too.

Although I seriously doubt diamante uses seastone. Just seems to be against his character.

I'm pretty sure in order for Diamante to use his Fruit, he has to actually touch it. Not sure how it would work with something like Smoker's jutte, though. Thats something to consider.

On January 30 2014 13:05 bittman wrote:
And if it was Shogun Franky I'd agree with the above =P

I'm telling you guys, Franky is going to snap his fingers and yell "RISE GENERAL FRANKY" or something, and then its going to just burst out of some local landmark.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 30 2014 04:46 GMT
#12911
Anyone else wondering what's happening with the Sunny and the random Big Mom ship we saw? Haven't even heard anything for like 6 chapters now.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 30 2014 04:46 GMT
#12912
On January 30 2014 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Anyone else wondering what's happening with the Sunny and the random Big Mom ship we saw? Haven't even heard anything for like 6 chapters now.

I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't hear anything about it until things settle at Dressrosa.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 05:17:51
January 30 2014 05:15 GMT
#12913
On January 30 2014 12:20 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 10:05 shell wrote:
maybe kinemon will solo pika, luffy vs DD and Zoro versus Fujitora

He is powerfull enough for DD to notice him and talk about him so maybe he will get to fight pika and tell Luffy and the rest to go ahead

what do you guys think ?


That was my guess originally, but then I would be flat out ignoring a lot of other players in the castle. Weaker, sure, but notable. Baby 5 and the lightning dude notably. Sure they're nothing on Luffy or Zoro (or probably even Kinemon, though we haven't seen him in a tough fight yet), but they're still there. Might be for Viola to deal with perhaps?

That said, I don't think things will be so straight forward knowing Oda. It could be a 2v1 vs Doflamingo and Futijora nicks off. Or it could be a 3v2 after they beat Pika. Perhaps the revolutionaries attack at some point and Sabo fights alongside Luffy vs Dofla.

Maybe Doflamingo pulls off a mask and goes "I was Kaidou all along. I'll catch you next time Mugiwara!" and flies away.

Ok my real bet at the moment is this:
- Luffy (and whatever is left of Law) fight Doflamingo. He wins.
- Zoro and Kinemon fight Futijora. Kinemon is a bit outclassed, but Zoro with that bit of help is able to fight to a draw. When dofla gets beaten Futijora decides to leave.
- Ussop is totally going to get turned into a toy. He'll somehow win after being turned into a toy.
- I have no idea who will beat Trebol. Maybe one of the toys that gets re-humaned will be super strong. Or just gang up on him.
- Sabo will win the battle royale. The devil fruit was a fake / was taken away / somethinglikethat.
- Somehow Burgess does not lose in a way that he looks weak. It'll be a technicality.

These are my current predictions.


Reading that I couldn't help but think.
+ Show Spoiler +


Also Im still waiting for the I have 8000 followers line from usopp
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 30 2014 06:43 GMT
#12914
On January 30 2014 13:46 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 13:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Anyone else wondering what's happening with the Sunny and the random Big Mom ship we saw? Haven't even heard anything for like 6 chapters now.

I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't hear anything about it until things settle at Dressrosa.


It would be quite badass to not see anything about that situation during the entire arc, and then at the end of the arc have the splintered remains of Big Mam's ship floating in the water, burning...
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shirtman
Profile Joined April 2010
178 Posts
January 30 2014 07:42 GMT
#12915
I wonder if Mingo gets defeated / killed in this arc. He's obviously a top villain and right now the main objective but maybe Oda just wants to show off the Strawhats in the new world and set up Big Mom / Kaidou / Luffy's road to a Yonko.

So there might be a huge showdown... with everybody walking away. Just think of all the players on the Island going all out. I don't think that we need another battle royal after the arena. I can imagine Mingo retreating to show up at a later point. His crew is shown a lot and we don't know Mingo's goal. He's just collecting ressources / influence on the island, right?
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
January 30 2014 08:53 GMT
#12916
On January 30 2014 16:42 shirtman wrote:
I wonder if Mingo gets defeated / killed in this arc. He's obviously a top villain and right now the main objective but maybe Oda just wants to show off the Strawhats in the new world and set up Big Mom / Kaidou / Luffy's road to a Yonko.

So there might be a huge showdown... with everybody walking away. Just think of all the players on the Island going all out. I don't think that we need another battle royal after the arena. I can imagine Mingo retreating to show up at a later point. His crew is shown a lot and we don't know Mingo's goal. He's just collecting ressources / influence on the island, right?


I honestly think Dofla needs to be defeated here to make room for the Yonkou especially since hes been introduced as the stepping stone to Kaidou. It also make sense since Fujitora is there and more than willing to take him away. Like I said before the illegal activities of Dofla will probably be exposed to the marines in this very arc so Fujitora will have the excuse he needs to take him down (but since hes luffy's opponent all he has to do is take him to Impel Down).
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 30 2014 09:16 GMT
#12917
Hey Pica vs General Franky will remind me of Power Ranger. Make it happen .
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Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
January 30 2014 10:42 GMT
#12918
Guys.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 30 2014 12:38 GMT
#12919
On January 30 2014 17:53 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 16:42 shirtman wrote:
I wonder if Mingo gets defeated / killed in this arc. He's obviously a top villain and right now the main objective but maybe Oda just wants to show off the Strawhats in the new world and set up Big Mom / Kaidou / Luffy's road to a Yonko.

So there might be a huge showdown... with everybody walking away. Just think of all the players on the Island going all out. I don't think that we need another battle royal after the arena. I can imagine Mingo retreating to show up at a later point. His crew is shown a lot and we don't know Mingo's goal. He's just collecting ressources / influence on the island, right?


I honestly think Dofla needs to be defeated here to make room for the Yonkou especially since hes been introduced as the stepping stone to Kaidou. It also make sense since Fujitora is there and more than willing to take him away. Like I said before the illegal activities of Dofla will probably be exposed to the marines in this very arc so Fujitora will have the excuse he needs to take him down (but since hes luffy's opponent all he has to do is take him to Impel Down).


As much as I love Dofla...unfortunately I agree. He's going down this arc because he needs to be kicked out of Dressrosa for any sort of happy ending. That said: it won't be the last we see of him. I have a feeling that even with this arc Doflamingo will be some sort of player. Not a shichibukai or as big a player, but I'd love to see him alongside the other Tenryuubito at the Reverie or something along those lines.

One thing that's bothering me about Dofla at the moment is that his crew members have noted that he will be the man that will become the pirate king. Sure Dofla controls power and a lot of the underground, but it's pretty clear he's not really in competition with Yonkou. And most notably, he's just sort of sat on an island for 10 years.

So what's bothering me is: what's his true goal. If it is to become pirate king, simply being the most powerful broker was never going to be enough. I have a feeling we're going to get something Crocodile-esque. Like there's something else he's working on that would tip the balance in his favour in an enormous way.

...but maybe I'm reading too much into it and he expects to be the pirate king by being the guy pulling the strings behind the scenes. It just doesn't quite seem right to me though.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-31 00:15:38
January 30 2014 13:45 GMT
#12920
DD after being defeated will escape the marines because he is a Celestial Dragon and will go out to sea once again.. to test himself against the other pirates instead of lame tricks and rulling a country
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